Hi Gay Can't see any connection at the moment Here is my BALL/LEACH connection Ellen BALL b. 1824 Edge Green Lancs, married John LEACH/LEECH/LECHE Provisions dealer b. 1821 Alford/Aldford Cheshire, they married on 7th November 1850 at St Nicholas church Liverpool. They lived in Bebington CHS on (96 Alma Villas) and Tranmere CHS (44 Derby Road) and later in Birkenhead town (5 Gresford Terrace)CHS They had two children Elizabeth LEACH/LEECH b 1852 and a son John LEACH/LEECH b. 1855 Birkenhead. Caryl <<Hi Caryl, Does the following BALL fit into your tree? Selina Ball born 1856, registered in Whitney; married Robert Dean, March quarter 1876, registered in Leek, Staffordshire; died Sept. quarter 1886, Congleton. (I have no certificates, the dates just 'work') Enumerated as DEAN 1881 at Brereton Cum Smethwick;1891 at Davenport. Thanks, Gay>>

Hi Caryl, Does the following BALL fit into your tree? Selina Ball born 1856, registered in Whitney; married Robert Dean, March quarter 1876, registered in Leek, Staffordshire; died Sept. quarter 1886, Congleton. (I have no certificates, the dates just 'work') Enumerated as DEAN 1881 at Brereton Cum Smethwick;1891 at Davenport. Thanks, Gay -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: October 20, 2004 7:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call MATTHEWS/HORE/GORDON/LEECH/LEACH/BALL My research interests for the Wirral are: HORE GORDON LEECH/LEACH MATTHEWS BALL Dublin - Liverpool GARVEY CARNEY MCMAHONE FARRELL Caryl List admin ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html ============================== You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/

Hi Marilyn. I'm interested in your CROXTON name. My 4th great grandmother was Elizabeth CROXTON, born in 1728. She married Thomas BRISCOE March 1st 1748 in Eastham, Cheshire. She died in 1808. Any chance of a connection?? Bryan Briscoe Smith........... Colorado Springs, Colorado. US.

Juliet, did you look into the middleton family ? Keith in Malta ----- Original Message ----- From: "juliet" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] ROLL CALL > Researching > EVANS, Chester, Birkenhead > JONES, Chester > PEERS, Eastham, Birkehead > > WILLIAM EVANS married ELLEN JONES in 1854. They had children in North > Wales, Macclesfield and Chester according to census but I've been unable > to > track down the actual birth certs. > Both William and Ellen were supposedly born Chester and Barnhill > respectively. > > SAMUEL PEERS married Betsy Millington at Neston in 1819. They had > children > at Eastham. Trying to find birth of Samuel (died Birkenhead 1853) about > 1789, don't have a clue where. > > Juliet > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

> George CARSON, ca 1815 Liverpool. Possibly captained the "Louisa" to Newfoundland. Married into the Sparkes (s) family of Newfoundland 1846. May possibly be connected to Dr. William Carson born in KKD, Scotland who went to Nfld (Newfoundland). Dr. W's work there is very recognized in Newfoundland (previously in Birmingham, Eng). He had a brother James or John who was a physician around 1832 in Liverpool England. I would like to find out more about Dr. James as he is possibly my link to George. I found a George Edward Carson, joined war in 1915 living in Aintree. If I could find more about him as well this might be a connection I need. Also, someone tell me about Aintree, what churches, graveyards do I need to look at there? Thanks so much. Sharon Reid/Canada

Snippets from the Wallasey news Charter supplement 1913 Transfer of local police transferred to the county of Wallasey at midnight on March 31 Wallasey assumed county borough status on April 1 Victoria Gardens opened by Lord Derby May 3 Old thatched cottage opposite Liscard post office demolished during the summer New Brighton lifeboats have saved 524 lives from 1803-1913 1914 King George V lays foundation stone of the new town hall on March 25 First portion of Leasowe children's hospital opened on July 21 Civic Mace presented to Alderman Sydney DAWSON on September 10 1915 Lusitania sank on May 7. A number of Wallasey people were members of the crew Seacombe shops wrecked on May 10 in anti-German demonstrations During the year the new fire station at Liscard was opened 1916 Destructive fire at Wilkie's fun palace New Brighton on Saturday April 22 Wallasey new town hall opened as military hospital on August 12 Viscount French inspected Wallasey volunteers on September 27 1917 Owing to the scarcity of gravediggers in Wallasey a call was made for volunteers, members of the Wallasey battalion of the Cheshire Volunteers and special police responding Mother and child murdered at Liscard April 16, husband found guilty of murder and executed 1918 Wallasey branch of the "Comrades of the Great War" formed 1919 Wallasey police refused to join in police strike (August) More to follow.... Caryl List admin

I am looking at more recent members of my family as I know so little about them, well nothing actually! I have the will of Joseph EDGE (b1839 Grange) which was proved in 1923 Names appearing are Joseph Robert EDGE (he's my husband's g-grandfather) born 1866 Emma BILLINGTON (Nee EDGE) born 1874 William PICKERING (grocer Tarporley) I assume this is the husband of Ellen Edge born 1872 and who I can't find on the BMD etc John EDGE born 1876 Elizabeth HARPER (Nee Edge) born 1869 Annie PEARCE (nee Edge) born 1870 I only know that Joseph Robert Edge married Martha SADDLER. Father in law was very vague about when he died. Perhaps during WW II. I'd be very interested to hear from anyone with information on these people. TIA Cathy Edge

In a message dated 10/20/2004 2:39:59 PM GMT Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Caryl do you have anything on John Ormerod Cheif Constable of Wallasey from 1932 I am trying to find a connection to my Omerods of Liverpool & Aston-in MAKERFIELD Hi George Found two mentions so far: 1931 Mr J ORMEROD became Chief constable (retired 1959) 1948 The Chief constable Mr J ORMEROD awarded Kings Police Medal Caryl

Researching EVANS, Chester, Birkenhead JONES, Chester PEERS, Eastham, Birkehead WILLIAM EVANS married ELLEN JONES in 1854. They had children in North Wales, Macclesfield and Chester according to census but I've been unable to track down the actual birth certs. Both William and Ellen were supposedly born Chester and Barnhill respectively. SAMUEL PEERS married Betsy Millington at Neston in 1819. They had children at Eastham. Trying to find birth of Samuel (died Birkenhead 1853) about 1789, don't have a clue where. Juliet

Snippets from the Wallasey News Charter supplement 1910 The foundation stone of Harrison memorial church (St Nicholas's) laid on April 26 Claremont road Wesleyan church opened on May 25 and New Brighton Presbyterian church opened on July 7 Wallasey's charter of Incorporation recieved the Royal signature July 19 The election of Wallasey's first Municipal council took place in November when the Liberals were returned with a majority and Mr J T CHESTER was chosen as the first mayor 1911 Wallasey's first Civic ball held at the Tower ballroom on January 13 New Wallasey Grammer school opened on January 14 New tramway route to Wallasey Village opened February 7 Mr R H HALDANE MP secretary for war opened new drill hall in Seacombe on March 18 Foundation stone of Wallasey Masonic Hall Manor road laid on May 9 Baptist church, Seabank road opened on May 20 Coronation day festivities June 22 New Jewish synagogue opened in Falkland road on Sunday September 3 New Earlston free library, the gift of Mr Andrew CARNEGIE the American millionaire, opened on September 30 St Nicholas church opened November 29 1912 Alderman James WRIGHT, well known public man and headmaster of Seacombe Wesleyan School died on January 20. Many old Walleseyans were educated at his school, to whom he was known as "Daddy WRIGHT" Seacombe Presbyterian church opened September 25 New Brighton parish hall, gift of Mr Frederic NORTH, opened December 5 Quarry Recreation Clock Tower in the memory of Alderman J SMITH, formally handed over to the borough More to follow... Caryl List Admin

My connection is that Henrietta LEAY (1862) illegitimate daughter of Mary OXTON married James EASTMAN born (1861) in Oldham Lancs. father James Eastman children SQUIRE EASTMAN (1882) JOHN EASTMAN (1887) FRANK EASTMAN LILY EASTMAN (1896) ANNIE EASTMAN (1897) ALBERT EASTMAN (1900) Afraid I know nothing else about this family Elisabeth -----Original Message----- From: Dave Burton [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [BKHD-Wirral] ADMIN Roll Call -- EASTMAN In a recent post, Elisabeth Wegener indicated interest in the following families: >DIXON >LEAY >OXTON >WALTON >COUPLAND >GRIFFITH >CLEMENTS >ROBERTS >EASTMAN >BRADBURY Elisabeth, may I ask about your EASTMAN connection? My greatgrandfather, Josiah EASTMAN (b 1822 in Portsea, Hampshire) managed a Cocoa Rooms establishment in Chester St, Birkenhead -- this from the 1881 census. His wife Susannah (nee BASSETT, m 1844 in Stepney, London) was dead by this date. Cocoa Rooms were part of an extensive temperance movement of the time. His daughter, Sarah Louisa EASTMAN (b 1848, Islington, London) married my greatgrandfather, Thomas BURTON, in 1869 in Liverpool. Josiah also had a daughter, Esther Ann, who was 17 in 1881 and living with her father. Another EASTMAN, William (b1852, London, and probably Josiah's son) also operated a Cocoa Rooms on Price St, Birkenhead. William's wife was named Hannah and, in 1881, they had one daughter named Louisa. Any connection possible? Dave Burton ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.htm l ============================== You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/

My research interests for the Wirral are: HORE GORDON LEECH/LEACH MATTHEWS BALL Dublin - Liverpool GARVEY CARNEY MCMAHONE FARRELL Caryl List admin

Thanks to all who responded to the Roll call request! I'm delighted that so many of you have made connections, found new "cousins" and added new information to your research. Can I just request that listers do not include the word "Admin" in their subject line, only Admins should use this and it confuses people if the word is in the subject line of listers posts. Also can listers please change the subject line if the subject under discussion in the mail is not the same. This can lead to confusion for anyone doing a surname search in the archives, they are liable to bring up results that do not pertain to their enquiry. When replying to posts please do not quote huge amounts of previous mails, chop the quotes down to just the relevant details for your reply. Failure to do this leads to huge amounts of unnecessary script in the digests. Ta :-) Caryl List Admin

For researchers of CHATTERTON There is a Henery CHATTERTON listed in the Land Tax assessments of Bromborough for the years 1778 & 1779. He isn't listed in 1780 or the subsequent ones I have (1791, 1796, 1811, 1816, 1831) Caryl List Admin

Hello Margaret, several of us are tracing the YOUDS folk, can you please tell us the names of Martha YOUDS parents? Kind Regards, Anne. > I appreciate that this might be for the wrong "tree" but I have an > interest > in Marl/e/s from Birkenhead... > family are THOMAS MARLE married MARTHA YOUDS 26/8/1828.THEY HAD > JOHN > MARY > ELIZABETH > THOMAS > WILLIAM > GEORGE > ANN > MARGARET married Samuel Bather ...mine > SAMUEL > JOSEPH >

This may sound incredibly lazy, but what the heck. I am looking at Saughall Massie and the inhabitants over the last two hundred years. Its mainly the farmers I am after, but seeing as it was such a small place I'm happy with anyone from the area. If anyone has scraps of information about their families and this area, I would love to hear from you. I want to see if I can map out where people were living over the years and what they were doing. this may just be the daftest project I have come up with because Saughall Massie is not exactly the centre of the universe, but I suppose I can be sure that no one else has done it for their Diploma! If you can help drop me a line Babs [email protected]

I did reply to this but my email at work didn;t work! Was trying to tell Bob that the area was further up Borough Road heading back towards Tranmere. I suppose seeing as Dave found a listing in 1915 for a differnt family name, my Youds lot had left by then. I think its time to look at Gores etc again. Babs -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 10/19/04 21:43:45 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call - Youds Robert Tennant <[email protected]> wrote: <Just a thought to bear in mind the area mentioned was razed to the ground in the Blitz of 1941> There was a lot of bomb damage in that part of Borough Rd,(for example Claughton Higher Grade School just down the road) but the bakery I remember was intact post-war, although I think there was a bomb-site across the road from it. Dave

George I will check next time I go to Chester.Mary is baptized with Ann it does not mean she was born at the same time. Sometimes children were baptized together for a reason. Patricia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "GEORGE HIGHTON" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call Highton Barlow Pearce Price Gillam Platt > Hi Pat must be another MARY BOSTOCK mine b. 31-12-1824 m. WILLIAM PLATT > b. 22-1-1823 in St. Bertoline Barthomley in June 1846 so those you sent me > must be cousins Mary is burried in Flaybrick cemetry 1871 William then > married Harriet Yardley in 1875 at St. Mary's Birkenhead cheers George > > Pats Mail <[email protected]> wrote:Hi George, > Births at Haslington. > No.108,23 July 1815,Fanny illigitimate d/o Acton Bostock and Hannah > Denoril,minister J.S.Cattlow. > > No.285,24 Sept.1820,James s/o Acton & Mary Bostock > Labourer,minister R.L.Salmon > > No.286,24 Sept.1820,Sarah,d/o Acton & Mary Bostock > Labourer,minister R.L.Salmon > > No.287,24 Sept.1820,Francis d/o Acton & Mary Bostock,Labourer,minister > R.L.Salmon > > No.403,9Nov 1823,Joh s/o Acton & Mary Bostock > Labourer,minister R.L.Salmon > > No.541,9 Oct 1828,Mary d/o Acton & Mary Bostock > Labourer,minister Frederick Ford > > No.542,9 Oct 1828,Ann d/o Acton & Mary Bostock > Labourer,minister Frederick Ford > > No.741,27 Dec.1835,Joseph s/o Acton & Mary Bostock,Labourer,Curate R.D. > Hile > > No.778,1Jan.1837,Elizabeth d/o Acton & Mary Bostock > Labourer,minister R.D.Hile. > > DEATHS. > > No.733,1 Sept.1864,Mary Bostock,Haslington,74 yrs. > minister C.White. > > No.778,7 Feb. 1867,Acton Bostock,Haslington,80yrs > minister C.N.Dalton. > > Bertram Merrill Marriage Index > > 14 August 1815 St.Bertoline,Barthomley > Acton Bostock Married Mary Cook. > I have not Checked the Marriage at Chester Records Office yet. > I have not heard from Rob Platt. > > Regards Patricia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "GEORGE HIGHTON" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 8:15 PM > Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call Highton Barlow Pearce Price Gillam > Platt > > >> Hi Pat yes please Mary Bostock b.1-12-1827 thats all I have on Her it >> will >> be nice to flesh out the Bostocks Cheers George >> >> Pats Mail > wrote:Dear George, >> I have eight Bostock births at Haslington if you would like them.One of >> them >> is Mary wife of William Platt. >> Patricia. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "GEORGE HIGHTON" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 4:27 PM >> Subject: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll Call Highton Barlow Pearce Price Gillam Platt >> >> >>> Highton or Huyton -------mainly Lancashire and Liverpool >>> Barlow------------------------Liverpool >>> Pearce----------------------Lpool, B'head,Sandbach,Wiltshire >>> Price ------------------------Lpool, Lancashire >>> Whiteley--------------------Lpool >>> Doherty or Docherty----Prescot >>> Wood-------------------------Lpool >>> Busby------------------------Lpool >>> Ormrod, Omerod----------Anywhere >>> Shaw -------------------------Cheshire >>> Gillam------------------------------" >>> Platt--------------------------------" >>> Williams--------------------------" >>> Hardy------------------------------" >>> Jones------------------------------" >>> Roberts--------------------------" >>> Griffiths--------------------------" >>> Bostock------------------------" >>> Mcmanas---------------------" >>> Truman------------------------" >>> Betterly------------------------" >>> Davies------------------------" >>> Hope S K S can help Cheers George >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers George >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> ALL-NEW Yahoo! 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Robert Tennant <[email protected]> wrote: <Just a thought to bear in mind the area mentioned was razed to the ground in the Blitz of 1941> There was a lot of bomb damage in that part of Borough Rd,(for example Claughton Higher Grade School just down the road) but the bakery I remember was intact post-war, although I think there was a bomb-site across the road from it. Dave --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun!

Hi Charlie I have a Margaret HOCKENHULL in my family tree - married my ancestor William FELLS who died in 1612. Also a John DISBURY (b1830 Upton-in-Overchurch) who married Elizabeth ECCLES (b1828 Birkenhead) in Liverpool in 1849 and had eight children. Son of James and Mary DISBURY. Regards Gordon Evans Wirral UK >Here are my current interests: >CAREFULL in Astbury pre 1837 >DISBURY in Wirral pre 1842 >HALE in Wirral pre 1838 >HOCKENHULL anywhere pre 1900 >HOUGHTON in Walton ? pre 1870 >INCE in Waverton pre 1838 >SPARKS in Bebington pre 1850 >Regards, >Charlie, >Rugby, UK