Hi Charles No Isaac Hunt in the 1851 Northwich census George [email protected] >ask if anybody with access to > the 1851 Cheshire census records might look up Isaac Hunt, father of the > above, aged approx. 45-55, possibly residing in Northwich. Charles Hunt

I know some of you are researching DEAN here: Here is a little snippet from the Liverpool Mercury newspaper July 1833 To be Let With immediate possession, a house and shop fitted up with fixtures complete, situate in Liscard, three quarters of a mile from Egremont Ferry, on the road leading to Wallasey Apply Joshua DEAN Liscard .......................................... Caryl

Hello List, I have been corrected on this census number. It is for Hoose and Liscard. Which I have been kindly sent. Still in search of Thomas FOGG. Cheers for now, Pat and Bill [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat and Bill" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:06 PM Subject: [BKHD-Wirral] FOGG 1851 Census, Seacombe > Hello List, > Wondering if perhaps someone could help me with FOGGs in Seacombe 1851 > census. HO 107/2174 F 157 320. > Ian Hatton and my FOGGs are living very close in later years, we are > trying to make a connection but as yet I have not found my Thomas FOGG > born about 1825/31 Liverpool, Lancashire. My Gt. Grandmother Rebecca was > born in Seacombe in 1858. > In 1861 the family are living at 8 Victoria Road, Poolton cum Seacombe. > I have not been able to find Thomas in 1851 Liverpool, Lancashire, so am > hoping this HO 107/2174 F 157 320 will be his family, All I have is his > marriage which tells me his father was John. Father John was a joiner, son > Thomas was a stonemason in 1858 and 1861, a carter in 1871 and 1881. > Any help finding my Thomas in 1841 or 1851, would be the greatest of help. > ( I have them in 1861, 1871 and 1881. ) My Gt. Grandmother is married to > Thomas FULTON by 1877. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Household: > > Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation > Disability > Thomas FOGG Head M Male 50 Liverpool, Lancashire, > England Carter > Elizabeth FOGG Wife M Female 43 Liverpool, > Lancashire, England > Thomas FOGG Son Male 20 Birkenhead, Cheshire, > England Carter > Mary FOGG Daur Female 14 Seacombe, Cheshire, > England > Henry FOGG Son Male 12 Birkenhead, Cheshire, > England Scholar > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Source Information: > Dwelling Gardeners Court > Census Place Poulton Cum Seacombe, Cheshire, England > Family History Library Film 1341859 > Public Records Office Reference RG11 > Piece / Folio 3591 / 110 > Page Number 45

Hi George, disappointing, but thanks again for the help. Charles

Charles At HO107, Piece 2175, Folio 372, folio 39 is the following:- 6 Brunswick Avenue, Isaac Hunt, Head, 24, Waterman, Northwich (?) Cheshire Marshey (?) Hunt, Wife, 23, , Liverpool Lancashire, * George Hunt, Son, 5, Scholar, ditto, * Jane Hunt, Dau, 3, , Northwich Cheshire, John Hunt, Son, 11mths, , Birkenhead Cheshire, Margaret Hunt, Sister, 27 (or 21), Living on own means, Northwich Cheshire, The asterisk (*) indicates that there was a tick for these two in the column for "Blind, deaf or dumb". But the tick exists against half of all the entries on the page so may have been used for another purpose. Can't find the father, sorry. Ken -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 02 November 2004 14:03 To: [email protected] Subject: [BKHD-Wirral] 1851 look-up:-ISAAC HUNT I should be grateful for information from anyone with access to the 1851 census returns relating to the household of Isaac Hunt of Birkenhead, occupation Flat man, with baby son John and father, also Isaac Hunt, also a Flat man. With thanks in anticipation. Charles Hunt ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Just a brief expression of thanks to all who have sent me details of this census return - this is a field where one is truly grateful for the kindness of strangers. So! perhaps I can push my luck and ask if anybody with access to the 1851 Cheshire census records might look up Isaac Hunt, father of the above, aged approx. 45-55, possibly residing in Northwich. Charles Hunt

Dear Ken, many thanks for this lovely, useful information about my g g grandfather. It is strange about father Isaac not being there - perhaps in Liverpool. with thanks again, charles

Hello all, Is anyone connected to the follow people who were born after 1900 probably and married someone with the surname JONES ( COULD BE Griffith-Jones) Robert PAGAN married Beatrice Maud GRIFFITH-JONES MAR QTR 1931 Thomas Edward WHITE married Lydia G JONES DEC QTR 1932 Thomas Edward WHITE was a Superintendent, and lived at 22 WINTERHEY Ave, Seacombe, Wallasey in 1937. He could have been a Policeman or money lender ..or both! Robert PAGAN , not much known about him at all but may have lived in Old Swan ( 1937 Directory) Any connections, I would love to hear from you. Trying to connect to the GRIFFITH-JONES family from Aspendale Road, Tranmere, Birkenhead from c1910-1934 Thanks Wendy --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 01/11/2004

Caryl I notice that you have been posting a lot of little snippets of late. Are you publishing them or can I be cheeky and steal? Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 10:27 AM Subject: [BKHD-Wirral] Sale of land Bidston 1823 - HAZLEHURST > Little snippet from Liverpool Mercury August 1823 > > This day the 15th.....at the house of James RADLEY known by the sign of > the > Ring O Bells, in Bidston Cheshire....... > > All that plot or parcel of land, called the further field: and also all > that > piece or parcel of land now used as a garden, and being part of a Pasture > field adjoining the same: together with a cottage thereon erected, situate > in > the township of Bidston, near the Lighthouse, on the road leading from > Woodside > to Bidston church containing 1 statute acre, 3 roods, and 15 perches or > thereabouts, and now in the occupation of John HAZLEHURST...... > > Caryl > > _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/main.html_ > (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/main.html) > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Hi Andrew Yes, steal away :-) You are welcome to add any snippets that I post here pertaining to Wirral to your site. By the way found my John LEACH provisions dealer Birkenhead Market listed in the PO directory today on your great site - or rather Sheila Jones pointed it out to me! Caryl <<<<Caryl I notice that you have been posting a lot of little snippets of late. Are you publishing them or can I be cheeky and steal? Andrew>>

Hello List, Wondering if perhaps someone could help me with FOGGs in Seacombe 1851 census. HO 107/2174 F 157 320. Ian Hatton and my FOGGs are living very close in later years, we are trying to make a connection but as yet I have not found my Thomas FOGG born about 1825/31 Liverpool, Lancashire. My Gt. Grandmother Rebecca was born in Seacombe in 1858. In 1861 the family are living at 8 Victoria Road, Poolton cum Seacombe. I have not been able to find Thomas in 1851 Liverpool, Lancashire, so am hoping this HO 107/2174 F 157 320 will be his family, All I have is his marriage which tells me his father was John. Father John was a joiner, son Thomas was a stonemason in 1858 and 1861, a carter in 1871 and 1881. Any help finding my Thomas in 1841 or 1851, would be the greatest of help. ( I have them in 1861, 1871 and 1881. ) My Gt. Grandmother is married to Thomas FULTON by 1877. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Thomas FOGG Head M Male 50 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Carter Elizabeth FOGG Wife M Female 43 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Thomas FOGG Son Male 20 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Carter Mary FOGG Daur Female 14 Seacombe, Cheshire, England Henry FOGG Son Male 12 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Scholar -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Gardeners Court Census Place Poulton Cum Seacombe, Cheshire, England Family History Library Film 1341859 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3591 / 110 Page Number 45 Pat and Bill [email protected]

I should be grateful for information from anyone with access to the 1851 census returns relating to the household of Isaac Hunt of Birkenhead, occupation Flat man, with baby son John and father, also Isaac Hunt, also a Flat man. With thanks in anticipation. Charles Hunt

Hi Gordon How great. A possible connection! This is probably my lot too...the Ann (from Hannah) in the census makes sense of my records as do the dates. If so, my gggrandfather is the 8 year old James in the 1851 census (who later married Ann O'Brien and their son John is my grandfather). Do you have any further information on Joseph and Hannah?...or their earlier family? Many thanks, Marilyn >>> [email protected] 18/10/2004 9:18:04 a.m. >>> Hi Marilyn I don't have any marriage records as such, but in my extended family tree I have the marriage in Liverpool St Martin on 17 September 1835 of a Joseph COVENTRY (b1802 Neston) and Hannah CROXTON (b1814 Little Meols). I have Joseph in the 1851 Census thus :- Aged 45 (actually 48), living in Wallasey with wife Ann (37) + children Eliza (13), James (8), William (5) and Mary Ann (2). Occupation - labourer. Regards Gordon Evans Wirral UK >My main interests are >Coventry - Wirral and Liverpool >Croxton - Wirral and Liverpool >NOTE: Joseph Coventry and Ann Croxton married 1839 - does >anyone have any marriage records of this couple and also any >census records from 1839 - 1871. Many thanks. >My main interests also include >Hennessy - Ireland and Liverpool >Connor - Ireland and Liverpool >O'Brien - Ireland and Liverpool >Marilyn (New Zealand) ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hi Linda Amazing that we have so many names in common and maybe no connections!...disappointing I agree. You did not say if the PYE names below are related. My great aunt Catherine (b 1878 in Liverpool) married William "Billie" Pye (? DOB and probobaly also in Liverpool)...they had children John, Katherine, Elisabeth and Ada. But it seems unlikely that Billie is the William on your list. My O'Briens also came from Ireland...unlikely we have a connection though. Mine are John O'Brien (b 1821 in Ireland) who married Elizabeth ? (b c1821). They had Ann in 1871 (my ggrandmother) then Charles, Elisabeth, Ellen, James, John. Not sure if they had an older child Margaret. Ring any bells? Many thanks, Marilyn >>> [email protected] 20/10/2004 8:52:32 a.m. >>> Hi Marilyn Sorry but I don't think there is a connection here despite the names. I have been looking through the files and can find nothing. I am not sure of your time frame but there were many male PYES born in the 1870s and80s Thomas 1874 Joseph 1876 John 1885 Ernest -1889 William 1896 Richard - 1881 - grandfather Unfortunately I don't know as yet who the spouses were of the rest of them ( this winter's project!) No O'BRIEN connection - mine came from Ireland to Liverpool. Margaret O'BRIEN b 1847 married Edward MORAN Also no FOSTER connection either. How disappointing! Thanks anyway Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn McHaffie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 12:55 AM Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Roll call - Day/Burns > Hello Linda > > We have a lot of common names and I wonder if we are related. > I will do the broad brush version first and then get into the > detail later if need be. I have quite a lot of detail of the > various people if it turns out we have a connection. > > 1. Pye connection? My grandmother was Martha Coventry (nee > Hennessy) - her parents were John Hennessy and Catherine > (Connor). Martha had an older sister Katherine who married a Pye > (Katherine became my mother Ann's adored "Auntie Katie Pye"). > > 2. O'Brien connection? Martha married John Coventry whose > parents were John Coventry and Ann O'Brien - Ann was born in > Scotland but her parents were both Irish born and they lived in > Kirkdale, Liverpool. > > 3. Foster connection? Martha had a son Joseph (my mother's > younger brother) who married May (I think Mary originally) Foster > - they are both still living in Liverpool (maybe Aughton?). > > 4. And the strange connection between us is that my mother Ann > Coventry married Lawson Burns...but he was born in Glasgow and > then came to New Zealand as a boy so this name has to be a red > herring in all this lot! > > So what do you think? I look forward to hearing from you. > > Kind regards > Marilyn (New Zealand) > > > > >>> [email protected] 16/10/2004 8:50:53 a.m. >>> > Hello > > Interests: > > DAY - Ireland, Tranmere, Birkenhead > BURNS - Shropshire, Birkenhead > > Related interests: > PYE - mainly Liverpool, Aughton,Southport > MORAN - Liverpool, Southport > FOSTER - Warrington, Southport > O'BRIEN/BRIEN - Liverpool > > Thanks > > Linda > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new > Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn > more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > >>> [email protected] 16/10/2004 8:50:53 a.m. >>> > Hello > > Interests: > > DAY - Ireland, Tranmere, Birkenhead > BURNS - Shropshire, Birkenhead > > Related interests: > PYE - mainly Liverpool, Aughton,Southport > MORAN - Liverpool, Southport > FOSTER - Warrington, Southport > O'BRIEN/BRIEN - Liverpool > > Thanks > > Linda > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new > Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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Please could anyone help me with 1851 info on Isaac Hunt , occupation Flat man, with son John Hunt (1 year old). Also his father, Isaac Hunt. Charles Hunt

I am researching the following names - BANKS : Stretton (Cheshire), Manchester (Lancs) BRADBURY : Lymm (Cheshire) BROWNBILL : St Helens (Lancs) CALLAGHAN : St Helens (Lancs), Ireland DANIELS : Bowdon (Cheshire) GABRIEL : St Helens (Lancs), Liverpool (Lancs), Dublin (Ireland) GARDNER : Dublin (Ireland) GRATWICH : Barlaston (Staffs) HIGHAM : Lymm (Cheshire), Leigh (Lancs) JOHNSON : Over Peover (Cheshire) JOHNSON : Barlaston (Staffs) JOHNS(T)ON : Wallasey (Cheshire), Birkenhead (Cheshire), Hull (East Riding), North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland), Ryton (Co. Durham) JONES : Whitchurch (Shrops) LEIGH : Lymm (Cheshire) MILLER : Lymm (Cheshire), Grappenhall (Cheshire) MOSTON/MOSSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Over Peover (Cheshire), Marthall (Cheshire) MYCOCK : Barlaston (Staffs) NORBURY : Liverpool (Lancs) PERCIVAL : Lymm (Cheshire), Antrobus (Cheshire) RICHARDSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Prescot (Lancs) TABERN : St Helens (Lancs) THOMPSON : North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland) WILLIAMSON : Cheshire WINSTANLEY : Lymm (Cheshire) WOOTTON : Barlaston (Staffs), Moddershall (Staffs), Stone (Staffs) I would be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests. Thanks Tim

Hi Bryan I really am not sutre at this stage - I haven't managed to track mine back that far yet...I am stalled at around 1840. Do you have any info on your Croxtons post-1808?...this may yet yield a connection..let's hope so. I will feed info back to you if any connections arise. Kind regards Marilyn >>> [email protected] 21/10/2004 3:58:32 a.m. >>> Hi Marilyn. I'm interested in your CROXTON name. My 4th great grandmother was Elizabeth CROXTON, born in 1728. She married Thomas BRISCOE March 1st 1748 in Eastham, Cheshire. She died in 1808. Any chance of a connection?? Bryan Briscoe Smith........... Colorado Springs, Colorado. US. ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hi Sylvia Darn...I really wish this was a connection but I don't think so. These Hennessy's are proving very elusive! Are yours from County Carlow (as are mine?)...if so there may yet be a connection (such as Charles being a brother of my John for example) - I will keep sleuthing and share with you the results. Many thanks for your reply. Kind regards, Marilyn >>> [email protected] 18/10/2004 10:43:21 a.m. >>> Hi Marilyn I have a Charles David Hennessey who married a Mary ann Wainwright in Liverpool in 1880 Any connection Regards Sylvia ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html ============================== You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/

Hello George, it might be a shortened version of Milling Machinist. Regards John Oliver ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Waring" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Winward (Winwood) 1901 > Thanks for your comment. I wondered myself if mach meant machinist of > some sort. But the M that precedes mach is the puzzle > Fred Waring > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "GEORGE HIGHTON" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 10:02 AM > Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] Winward (Winwood) 1901 > > > > Possibly short for Machinery Cheers George > > Fred Waring <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Two questions > > > > In the ancestry.com transcription of the 1901 census, there is a Winwood > > family. An examination of the image makes clear that the name is actually > > Winward. Any idea of how I could suggest they correct the transcription. > > > > The occupation of John Winward in 1901 is listed as Iron Driller. But in > > the same space there is a notation which I read as Mmach. Anybody know > > what that notation means? > > Fred Waring > > > > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > Cheers George > > > > --------------------------------- > > ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! > > > > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > > > ============================== > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Could it possibly be Master Machinist