Doug, I think I have found your Aunty Christine, however, as in most cases when trying to research something which took place whilst people were under pressure there are conflicting reports. Here though is my search results on the reported deaths of three people in Clive Road Oxton on the night of 9th January 1941. No. 23 Clive Road, Fredrick John Dodd aged 63 was killed with his daughter, Freda Dodd aged 16. Susan Christie Duncan Walker aged 50 was killed at No. 21 Clive Road, but is listed as living at 160 Grange Road West, which is in easy walking distance of Clive road. Is this your Aunty? A very good publication called Birkenhead at War 1939 - 1945 refers to people being killed at No. 6 Clive Road but I consider that to be a mistake as only the above persons are listed as being killed at No.21/3 and this confirms your information Bob T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug" <d.s.mason@btinternet.com> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 10:32 AM Subject: [BKHD-Wirral] The Blitz > Many thanks to everyone who has taken the trouble to reply to my posting > regarding the Blitz in Birkenhead. > > Wendy- the Port Cities site you pointed me to was very interesting and > well illustrated. There is a great deal of "clicking" required to view it > but it is very well worth the effort. One key piece of information was > that Birkenhead suffered far worse in March 1941 than it did in May. > Perhaps the incident I refered to in Clive Road happened in March and not > in May. > > Dave & Bob - Thanks for your offers of help. If you come up with anything > I will be most grateful. A date may eventually lead to a newspaper > article, or am I being over ambitious? > > Andy, Tony & Margaret - Thanks for the potential leads. I may be able to > follow them up when I know a little more. > > Doug > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Dorothy Many thanks for making that search for me. Unfortunately I had no evidence about the date other than it being after his first wife's death in 1931 and before his death in 1941. Also I wasn't certain that marriage took place until now. Thanks again Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Spence" <rottimum@platinum.ca> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 4:13 AM Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] KEENE > Hi Doug, > > After starting at 1931 I finally found the marriage in: > June Quarter 1941 > Keene Thomas E - Thomas - Birkenhead - 8a 1822 > Thomas Gwen - Keene - Birkenhead - 8a 1822 > > So. Thomas married a Gwen Thomas in 1941. You can now send for a > certificate with this information if you need it. > > Regards, > Dorothy > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.0/276 - Release Date: 07/03/2006 >

Could anyone kindly help me find the record of a marriage for Thomas Edward Keene sometime between 1931 and 1941 probably in Birkenhead. Not sure of his wife's name but possibly Gwen. Thanks Doug

Hi Doug, After starting at 1931 I finally found the marriage in: June Quarter 1941 Keene Thomas E - Thomas - Birkenhead - 8a 1822 Thomas Gwen - Keene - Birkenhead - 8a 1822 So. Thomas married a Gwen Thomas in 1941. You can now send for a certificate with this information if you need it. Regards, Dorothy

Many thanks to everyone who has taken the trouble to reply to my posting regarding the Blitz in Birkenhead. Wendy- the Port Cities site you pointed me to was very interesting and well illustrated. There is a great deal of "clicking" required to view it but it is very well worth the effort. One key piece of information was that Birkenhead suffered far worse in March 1941 than it did in May. Perhaps the incident I refered to in Clive Road happened in March and not in May. Dave & Bob - Thanks for your offers of help. If you come up with anything I will be most grateful. A date may eventually lead to a newspaper article, or am I being over ambitious? Andy, Tony & Margaret - Thanks for the potential leads. I may be able to follow them up when I know a little more. Doug

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Thankyou , I will look asap. Yvonne in OMAN

Thinking about the Blitz in 1941 made me check my late Uncle's details. Duncan LASCELLES married Gertie HAUGHTON (born c.1917) at Birkenhead Register Office in October 1939. Gertie's address was 61, Holt Road, Birkenhead. He died at the Rolls Royce factory in Crewe on Sunday afternoon, 29 December 1940. (A lone bomber dumped some bombs on a field, except for one which caught the corner of the factory.) My Mum was not "allowed" to go to the funeral - men only....and was never told if he was buried or where. The witness at the wedding in 1939 was Arthur HUGHES. The death was registered by 'A. HUGHES, brother in law' of 6, Balfour Road, Birkenhead. I am assuming 'A' was Arthur, and he was married to a sister of Gertie. Do any of these names, or addresses ring any bells please? Contact with Gertie was lost after the war. I would love to make contact with anyone from these families. Regards, Ruth in Brum.

Bob I don't know the exact date of the incident, only that I've been told it was during the May blitz of 1941. My mother's family were living at 21 Clive Road, Oxton, Birkenhead, (my mother had got married and moved in 1940, phew!) In the house were my grandfather, Thomas Edward Keene who was asleep upstairs. Under the stairs were my Aunt, Blanche Keene, her friend Christine Walker, and the couple who lived next door at 23. I don't know their names. A bomb landed on 23 and totally destroyed it and partly destroyed 21. I know the couple from 23 and Christine Walker were killed. Blanche was badly injured but survived and grandad also survived. Can you find any record of the incident? Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Tennant" <birkenheadtram@tiscali.co.uk> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] May Blitz 1941 > This is a comprehensive list of Civilian War Casualties attachment on the > War Graves Commission Site. You will have to view each local area > individually by clicking on the Civilian War dead Roll. I have a list of > names and addresses from a Home Front project I did last year if you have > problems. > Bob T > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug" <d.s.mason@btinternet.com> > To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:35 PM > Subject: [BKHD-Wirral] May Blitz 1941 > > >> Can anybody tell me if there is an accessable record of casualties in >> Birkenhead of the May Blitz in 1941. >> Doug >> >> >> ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== >> Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html >> >> ============================== >> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> >> > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.0/275 - Release Date: 06/03/2006 >

I think there is a Book of Remberance at either Wallasey Town Hall or the Wirral Archives in the old Birkenhead Town Hall Regards Tony Barratt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug" <d.s.mason@btinternet.com> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:35 PM Subject: May Blitz 1941 > Can anybody tell me if there is an accessable record of casualties in > Birkenhead of the May Blitz in 1941. > Doug > > ______________________________

Thankyou for the reply , Yvonne in OMAN

There is a publication called "Birkenhead at War 1939-1945 that amongst other things lists the 500 or so civilians killed during the blitz. I haven't read this book but the equivilent publication for Wallasey (Wallasey at War 1939-1945) has names, ages, addresses relationship to other casualties and in some cases other family information. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "ybmarshall" <ybmarshall@bigpond.com> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [BKHD-Wirral] May Blitz 1941 >I too would be interested in deaths from the 1941 may Blitz. > > Yvonne > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

I too would be interested in deaths from the 1941 may Blitz. Yvonne

At the National Archieves Kew there is a book which lists all civilian deaths (in the library part). I also found details of the time I was bombed out there (I was living in Middlesex) in other records, can't remember details but the enquiry staff very good. Margaret Wedge

Doug I have a copy of the Birkenhead at War book. If you would like me to scan any page (dates?) I'll try. Given my inneptitude in things electronic it may take a day or so! Dave Doug <d.s.mason@btinternet.com> wrote: Can anybody tell me if there is an accessable record of casualties in Birkenhead of the May Blitz in 1941. Doug ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx Dave Greenly adg532@yahoo.co.uk (Please note my new address) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Cars NEW - sell your car and browse thousands of new and used cars online search now ---------------------------------

This is a comprehensive list of Civilian War Casualties attachment on the War Graves Commission Site. You will have to view each local area individually by clicking on the Civilian War dead Roll. I have a list of names and addresses from a Home Front project I did last year if you have problems. Bob T ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug" <d.s.mason@btinternet.com> To: <BIRKENHEAD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:35 PM Subject: [BKHD-Wirral] May Blitz 1941 > Can anybody tell me if there is an accessable record of casualties in > Birkenhead of the May Blitz in 1941. > Doug > > > ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== > Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Still looking for the Stewart Family Tranmere/Birkenhead 1838 onwards particularly William Stewart b 1846-can track through census till 1891 and he seems to disappear together with wife Margaret and sons James and Samuel. Other son Thomas is in Birkenhead in both 1891 amd 1901 census.. Any ideas?

Hi Yvonne,you might find something on here, _http://www.mersey-gateway.org/server.php?search_word=1941+blitz+wallasey&change=SearchResults_ (http://www.mersey-gateway.org/server.php?search_word=1941+blitz+wallasey&change=SearchResult s) wendy

Can anybody tell me if there is an accessable record of casualties in Birkenhead of the May Blitz in 1941. Doug

Hi Raymond Can you scan the area containing Neptune Street and send it to me? I would be very grateful...and send thanks in advance! Kind regards Marilyn >>> raymond.courtenay@btopenworld.com 03/06/06 2:59 a.m. >>> I have some old maps of birkenhead tranmere and rock ferry if you let me know of any area you are interested in I can scan and send them to you Cpwill5@aol.com wrote: Mike I was up in Birkenhead last week and I have visited many times since I left. It isn't how I remember it and I usually get lost! So much has gone. I can find my way around Liverpool much easier, although a lot of that has disappeared and will disappear soon. A lot of the old Bootle houses are going, or have gone Does anyone have a copy of an old OS map that shows the old streets in central Birkenhead but on which they or someone else has drawn an outline of what is still there and what is no longer there, if you follow!!... I think something like the above would be useful I do have the 1907 OS Godfrey Map of Birkenhead but I'm getting confused myself Caryl In a message dated 04/03/2006 18:32:24 GMT Standard Time, mikeljan1@yahoo.co.uk writes: Hi List With people asking from time to time about certain areas in Birkenhead i.e. Back of Pilgrim Street being the more recent I thought I'd let you know (for those who don't know) the majority of housing is almost gone that run off Corporation Road Birkenhead. Many houses have been demolished. I drive past on occassions but don't know what is happening to the land, whether it is being redeveloped or left. Wonder if the Archives have photographs for future family history trackers like us? Regards Mike Hayes ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 ==== BIRKENHEAD Mailing List ==== Our list Web site with links useful for Wirral genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/BIRKENHEAD-WIRRAL.html ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx