The only data I have on this family is: Reuel H. b. Aug 28, 1843 (son of Benjamin Jr) married Mary E. Birdwell Simpson b. Nov 22, 1958 - oldest ch. of Robert Birdwell, 8th child of Joseph, son of George I. They had one child Clara Irene who m. John Other Hester. John E. b. Nov 16, 1862 m. Sally Birdwell 9th ch. of Robert Birdwell. Ch: Benjamin Carl, Reuel Claude, Otho D. Cassie Marie, Lydia, Robert Elvis, John Adrian Rose if putting this data into Birdtracks now. Effie

Sorry--I just received my Birdwell List notice & I hit the wrong # for his birth date--I put in 1903 instead of 1803. Velma

Hello---I have checked my files & I do not show the same names you do. I have Benjamin Birdwell born Feb. 8, 1903, but married to Margaret Lidea Campbell with 9 children. I show info from Broderbund Marriage Index: IL., KY., OH., TN. 1720-1926-Sec VI ch 42, Washington Cty., TN 1780-1840: Benjamin Birdwell to Margaret Campbell August 24, 1831. The 9 children I show them with are: Mary M Alfred D Benjamin F born 11-5-1856 married 3-14-1875 to Adlicia Wheeler in Jackson Co.,TN I do not show children for them Elizabeth born 1842 married to George R. Shipley Matilda born 1847 married to David P Dolen Harriet C born 11-10-1848 married to Benjamin Franklin Haley Reuel born 1850 Nancy Jane born 1858 married to John Melear John W born 11-16-1862 married to Sally with 7 children I think we need to get help on this--what does anyone else have? Velma

Hello--I have Benjamin Birdwell Jr born 2-8-1803 married to Margaret Lyda Campbell. I also show info from broderbund Marriage Index, IL., KY., OH., TN. 1720-1926, Sec VI, ch 42, Washington Cty., TN 1780-1840: Benjamin Birdwell to Margaret Campbell marriage date 8-24-1831. Could he have married Lydia Duncan later? Velma

I just found out that on Sep 30, there will be a memorial service and unveiling of a Civil War marker for John J .... The service will be at the Walnut Grove Cemetery just outside White House, Tenn (about 30 minutes north of Nashville) - to be followed by a BIRDWELL reunion in White House ... I understand a nearby chapter of the Sons of The Confederacy will perform the ceremony complete with period costumes for the men and women etc .... All are invited. This has actually got me excited about getting back to my research. Weldon, now who is this Margaret McKaughan again ??? (wink) ARGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH !!!! Jerry

Hi -=-received the following from Linda Birdwellmailto:Linda.Birdwell@norwest.com >I am looking for infomation leading to the lineage of my grandfather, >Socrates Birdwell. He was married to Lena Rose(don't know maiden name)and had the following children-Brasco,Barlow,Zeno,Callous,Harriet and >Rhody May. The children were from the Bruceton, Camden, Huntington, Tn >area. Do any of these names appear in your Birdwell research? Thanks >Linda Birdwell >Wells Fargo Services Company >Corporate Transition Services >612-316-4399 office >877-242-5962 page >linda.birdwell@wellsfargo.com I don't have any of the above in my files. So thought I would send it on & see who does Velma

Once again I wrote too fast and hit "send" before double checking. The farm where Euclid Rains lived was not owned by John Birdwell but John Findley (after the Indians), then sold to John Findley's niece Jane Dowdy Isbell and her husband Elijah Miller Isbell (1840-1920), who was a son of Rev. Levi Isbell b. 1797 and his wife Sarah H. Birdwell, daughter of John Birdwell & Mary Allen. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

Gang, here is a message from Ray Isbell. Our sympathy to the family of Mr. & Mrs. Rains. Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray Isbell <isbell2@hotmail.com> To: <dguthrie@world-net.net>; <birdwell@tri-county.main.nc.us>; <JWCombs20@aol.com>; <rjc@web-access.net>; <LoveysCCC@aol.com>; <rbirdwell@1starnet.com>; <mafettes@yahoo.com>; <dmccain@ala.net>; <dchandler@farmerstel.com> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 8:19 PM Subject: The Death of Euclid Rains > I am sorry to report that Euclid Rains and his wife Nell, both 79, were > killed in a Sunday morning traffic accident on their way to church > services. The accident was reported at approximately 11:30 a.m., but I > think it probably happened earlier than that if church services were to > begin at 11:00. > > Euclid Rains was not a Masters descendant, but he was a Dalrymple > descendant and was connected to by blood or marriage to many of the > descendants of George Washington Masters (son of Notley Masters). He was > local historian, genealogist, and author, and preserved a lot of the history > of the George Washington Masters family of Dekalb County & Marshall Co., > Alabama. He preserved stories about the family during the Civil War and > also preserved the guitar song written by G.W.Masters' wife Sarah (Burriss) > in the 1850s and performed by her on the night before they moved from > Anderson, S.C. One of his projects was to try to save the log house built > by their son Benjamin Franklin Masters, but I believe that project fell > through. > Euclid was born at Rainsville and lived several of his childhood years > on my grandmother's farm in a tenant house that was originally a mule barn > belonging to Tal Bryant (one of the teachers at Jane Isbell High School). > This was the Birdwell-Isbell-Bryant-Slaton-Isbell-Dalrymple farm. John > Birdwell was the original owner after the Indians and then his niece, Jane > Dowdy Isbell, and all these other families were connections. My aunt > Mildred Dalrymple sold it about five years ago. They grew up with Euclid. > > The last time I talked with him, he was planning a series of books on > the settlers of Dekalb and Marshall Counties, in order to publish his > accumulated genealogical information. I don't know whether any of it was > published or not. He had asked me to help him write a chapter on the > Isbells and I'm sorry I told him I didn't have the time. > > An Associated Press story today said that he was the second blind > member of the Alabama legislature, but this article from the Gadsden Times > says that he was the first. > > http://www.gadsdentimes.com/rains828.html > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com.

Hey Gang, I received this from Gail Stephens. Does anyone have a death date for Margaret Campbell, apparently the first wife of Benjamin, Jr. Any theories?? Thank bunches........Rose From: Gail Stephens <GSTEPHENS@SC.RR.COM> To: <birdwell@tri-county.main.nc.us> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 12:04 PM Subject: Daniel Wexler Birdwell Attached is a transcription of the Birdwell family genealogy found in my parents' family bible (Fred Vincent Birdwell/Hazel Clemence Baxter). I thought the source of this information was Cecil Lynn Birdwell (my uncle), but since it includes his date of death, that is probably not true. It may be that my father took information from his brother or his father and typed the pages I found. I have not verified any of this information as I am just getting started on tracing my family roots. It appears that Benjamin Franklin Birdwell may have had two wives. Your information shows Lydia Campbell who married Benjamin Franklin in 1831. My information shows Lydia Duncan who was married to Benjamin Franklin in 1841. It may be that all the children you have listed as those of Lydia Campbell are actually the children of Lydia Duncan since they were all born after 1841. Do you have any information that would dispute this theory? Gail Birdwell Stephens GENEALOGY OF BIRDWELL FAMILY SPRINGING FROM THAT OF BENJAMIN BIRDWELL, SR. OF KINGSPORT, TENNESSEE Benjamin Birdwell, Sr. (Scotch Irish descent) Mary Perry (Welch descent) Sons - Benjamin, Jr. Daughters - Elizabeth Joseph Jane Rowland Nancy Reuel David Note: It is understood that Benjamin Birdwell, Sr., along with one brother, name unknown, entered the U.S.A. at Providence, R.I. from which point they separated, the now unknown brother moving westward while Benjamin, Sr., went southward and was married at an unknown location, possibly in Virginia, as Benjamin, Jr. was born in Bourtetot county, that state, Feb. 8, 1803. No other dates of birth known. Names of sons and daughters taken from copy of certified copy of will book No. 1, Page 594-96, but the Jr. does not show thereon for Benjamin. Benjamin Birdwell, Jr. (Millwright) Born Feb. 8, 1803 Lydia Duncan (Daughter of Alfred Duncan, a gunsmith) Born June 28, 1823 Married Dec. 3, 1841 Sons Born Daughters Born Alfred 12-12-1843 Elizabeth 10-17-1842 Reuel 8-28-1850 Athaliah 9-15-1845 John 11-16-1852 Matilda Adelade Brabson 2-22-1847 Benjamin Franklin 11-5-1856 Hariet Catherne 11-10-1848 Mary Magdalen 8-10-1854 Nancy Jane 9-28-1858 Miry Marcellar 9-6-1861 Lydia Ann 8-29-1863 Laura Rebecca 7-9-1866 Benjamin Franklin Birdwell (Farmer) Born Nov. 5, 1856 Axie Alice Austin (Daughter of Jackson Austin, Blacksmith) Born Jan. 18, 1859 Married May 28, 1882 Sons Born Daughters Born Daniel Wexler 3-19-1883 Zoola Besse 4-11-1891 Benjamin Edgar 1-1-1886 Anna Luis 1-1-1896 Daniel Wexler Birdwell Born March 19, 1883 - Died Oct. 16, 1955 Addie Luema Jones Born June 28, 1885 - Died Oct. 9, 1960 (Daughter of George Washington Jones, a Farmer) Married Sept. 25, 1904 Sons Born Daughters Born Fred Vincent 5-5-1905 Lois Dorothy 11-24-1912 Cecil Lynn 4-5-1907 Lela Bernice 11-25-1921 Died 5-29-1966 Carl Howard 3-24-1910 Benjamin Franklin 8-26-1927 Rose Birdwell To subscribe or unsubscribe: <BIRDWELL-L-request@rootsweb.com> To send queries or answers: <BIRDWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Problems or opinions: <birdwell@tri-county.main.nc.us> Birdtracks website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~birdtracks/

Hey Gang, I just received a note from Vera Luce mikevera@kskc.net about the passing of her brother, Jim, this past weekend. I know that I can speak for all of us when I say that our symapthy and our prayers go out to her, her mother, and her siblings. Rose Rose Birdwell To subscribe or unsubscribe: <BIRDWELL-L-request@rootsweb.com> To send queries or answers: <BIRDWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Problems or opinions: <birdwell@tri-county.main.nc.us> Birdtracks website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~birdtracks/

On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 12:37:05 -0500, you wrote: >James, > >Who then are George Washington b. abt 1809, Joab no date, and Elizabeth >b. 1811, belonging to? I have John married to Jane Cantrell? Thanks, Peg James - I think George Washington Birdwell is the younger brother of the other Joseph Birdwell (born abt 1803) found in Jackson County and the above Elizabeth was their sister ... This is the mysterious BIRDWELL line - father was a Joseph and mother was a Margaret McKaughan ... There is some letter in the files where some old man aroung 1890 something that claims to be the son of a woman whose sister was Margaret McKaughan who married a Joseph Birdwell ... Just when we thought we had everybody surrounded - up pops this letter - The web site where the letter was posted, sadly is no longer available and I did not make a copy of it ... Birdwell ....

A couple of points ... (A) I don't think William, son of old George, was married to a "Rachel" ... I don't think his wife's name was Rachel at all - that is a different woman - Weldon and I have discussed this several times and believe William was married to Elizabeth "Betsy" Lafever ..... (B) So far, my research shows their children as below - please understand, a lot of my research has been via a process of *WHO* could not or probably was not, their children - The mix of BIRDWELLs that kept moving between KY and TN in the Jackson County area does not make it easy - and they all had the same names, as you know. Children of Wm and Betsy Lafever Birdwell: 1. Jane "Jennie" (not "Windy" or "Wendy") who md William Fox - they had about 12 children ... 2. Joseph who married Elizabeth Chaffin - they had at least 12 children .... 3. Melvina who married Henderson Brown and had 7 children before she died at the early age about 30. 4. Serena - not sure , but possibly a daughter - could have married a PATE ... 5. John Harvey who married Martha Chaffin and had abt 11 children 6. Mary Ann who married Johnson Spurlock and had about 9 children Jerry

Hi Everyone, I am trying to help Willard Birdwell find his ancestors. His grandfather was Thomas J. Birdwell from Nacogdoches. He was married to Luvina. I sent Willard the family group sheet of Robert Randolph Birdwell that uses information from Jerry Birdwell . Willard wrote me back saying that his great grandparents were George Birdwell and Cassandra Blackburn according to the marriage record in Nacogdoches Court House. This doesn't match what I have. Does anyone have any information on this family? Thanks

Here's my email. Still don't know who Nancy's parents were. HELP! barbarab@argontech.net

My email address has not changed ....... I'm just a year older, that's all (wink) If all is not lost ,,,, where is it ????? Jerry Jerry R Anderson Anderson & Associates Recruiting For Financial Professionals www.members.home.net/j.r.anderson/

James, Who then are George Washington b. abt 1809, Joab no date, and Elizabeth b. 1811, belonging to? I have John married to Jane Cantrell? Thanks, Peg

Hey Gang, sorry for the personal message. Jerry, would you please contact me, my mail to you keeps bouncing! Thanks bunches Rose Gang, I started out with Jane "Windy" Birdwell and somehow ended up with Lena Bell Birdwell, just by following the line down. Hopefully, I'll be back up to Jane's name by the end of the week. And I still need email address for you all!! Let's hear from you. Rose Rose Birdwell To subscribe or unsubscribe: <BIRDWELL-L-request@rootsweb.com> To send queries or answers: <BIRDWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Problems or opinions: <birdwell@tri-county.main.nc.us> Birdtracks website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~birdtracks/

While searching for information on Andrew Jackson Birdwells family that moved from Arkansas to Pauls Valley, Garvin Co. OK, I found the following marriages on the Garvin Co Web site. I am only listing the names. The rest of the information is on the web page. Choctaw - Indian Territory marriages Idus Birdwell to Ella Scott Robert V. Birdwell to Eve Phillips Thomas A. to Emma Lewis McClain Co marriages Torn Birdwell to Ruth Sharp Will M. Birdwell to Helen J. Dailey Nettie Birdwell to Archie McDermot Jettie Birdwell to Gordon S. Phillips Chickasha - Indian Territory Marriages E. R. Birdwell to Ela Britton Harry S. Birdwell to Lizzie Elkins Garvin Co Marriages Sam H. Birdwell to Ethel Lee Does anyone know anything about these Birdwells?

Hey Gang, I've started working on William 1772 (by overwhelming demand). All of you that are related to this family, please check daily on what i've put in there, in case there are any mistakes, I'll be able to get them straightened out right away. As you all know, this is a very hard family to do, since it is so intermingled with relatively very few families. And I've had lots of trouble with my email this last week, so if you find errors, and you don't hear from me in a few hours, please try again. Also, I would like to put your names and email addresses on BT, and your family lines, on the Articles page, but will only do it for those who consent. For all that are in favor, please send me your name and email add., and your family line, and i'll copy and paste it on there, just as you have written it. Have a great evening Rose Rose Birdwell To subscribe or unsubscribe: <BIRDWELL-L-request@rootsweb.com> To send queries or answers: <BIRDWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Problems or opinions: <birdwell@tri-county.main.nc.us> Birdtracks website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~birdtracks/

Hey Gang, I got this in my guestbook today. Does anyone have any help for Gail? And Gail, could you send me your corrections, and I will add them to BT. Can you send me that short genealogy that your Uncle wrote, so that I can add that, too? Thanks, everyone. Rose Name : Gail Stephens Your E-mail Address : gbstephens@aol.com Comments : Great job! Keep up the good work! There are a couple of places where my information differs from what you have. My uncle (Cecil Birdwell) put together a short genealogy sometime in the early 70s. His older brother, Fred (not Ned) was my father. Their father was Daniel Wexler Birdwell, his father Benjamin Franklin Birdwell, and his father Benjamin, Jr. The document I have says Benjamin, Jr. was married to Lydia Duncan, daughter of Alfred Duncan, a gunsmith. Could Lydia Duncan and Margaret Lydia Campbell be the same person? I would like to connect my family to "old George", but this discrepancy has put this connection in doubt. I would welcome any feedback anyone may have about this relationship. Thanks. Rose Birdwell To subscribe or unsubscribe: <BIRDWELL-L-request@rootsweb.com> To send queries or answers: <BIRDWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Problems or opinions: <birdwell@tri-county.main.nc.us> Birdtracks website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~birdtracks/