This is from my "just when you thought you knew everything" files .... There is this 94 year old man who attends the Birdwell Reunion in Robertson County ... His name is Luther Vernon Short ... Someone asked him just the other day why he attends that reunion. He apparently responded - "We,,. I know I'm related" ... then his wife said she knew why ==>> "John J. and Mariah Birdwell were his grandparents and Ella Birdwell was his mother". Thud ... The picture of the Birdwell reunion circa 1902 - 03 .... the young couple on the far left (looking at the picture) sitting down ... is *probably* Ella Birdwell and her husband Archie Short ... I'll find out for sure on the 30th at the John J. memorial service .... Ella was born 1 Apr 1882 (hence, no show on the 1880 census) and was married by 1900 (hence no show on the 1900 census) ... She was a daughter of John J and Mariah that few of us knew about until just recently ... Ella Birdwell Short died 5 nov 1909 - the mother of four. Jerry

Velma and All, The Dawes Census was done in 1898-1914, too late for our Sarah Duncan. So we still have to do some searching. You have a safe trip. Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: Velma <tootsie5@gte.net> To: <BIRDWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 7:51 PM Subject: Duncan > Hi Rose--We have been wondering about the ancestors saying they had Indian > blood. > I found the following URLhttp://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalrolls/ > & clicked on it--I found 70 Duncan names listed. Amond them were: > Duncan, Charles D. Roll #7157 > Duncan, Sarah L. Roll #27528 > Duncan, Sarah Roll#27532 > Could this be our tie-in??? I have Charles Duncan Birdwell married to Aley > Gaines > in 1834 in AL. He is the father of my grandfather,Edward Thomas Birdwell, > born in > South Pittsburgh, TN. He had always told my mother that he was part Indian. > Moses Birdwell was married to Sarah Duncan 9-8-1815 in Madison, AL and had 2 > children: Charles Duncan and Amanda Minerva. > Also, today, I received an inquiry from a Frances M. > Thomasmailto:fthomas1@juno.com > asking about Harriett Birdwell married to Josiah Mauldin Lauderdale. I gave > her what I have but told her to contact you and to also join the Birdwell > List. > I will be leaving Monday the 18th until the 28th to go back to IL. & > IN.--hopefully if the > hurricane Gordon doesn't cause too much problem here tomorrow. > See you > Velma >

Hi Rose--We have been wondering about the ancestors saying they had Indian blood. I found the following URLhttp://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalrolls/ & clicked on it--I found 70 Duncan names listed. Amond them were: Duncan, Charles D. Roll #7157 Duncan, Sarah L. Roll #27528 Duncan, Sarah Roll#27532 Could this be our tie-in??? I have Charles Duncan Birdwell married to Aley Gaines in 1834 in AL. He is the father of my grandfather,Edward Thomas Birdwell, born in South Pittsburgh, TN. He had always told my mother that he was part Indian. Moses Birdwell was married to Sarah Duncan 9-8-1815 in Madison, AL and had 2 children: Charles Duncan and Amanda Minerva. Also, today, I received an inquiry from a Frances M. Thomasmailto:fthomas1@juno.com asking about Harriett Birdwell married to Josiah Mauldin Lauderdale. I gave her what I have but told her to contact you and to also join the Birdwell List. I will be leaving Monday the 18th until the 28th to go back to IL. & IN.--hopefully if the hurricane Gordon doesn't cause too much problem here tomorrow. See you Velma

Hey Gang, I've added some more pictures in Articles. They are of John J. Birdwell and Mariah M. Kirby, another of their sons, and another of James Kirby Birdwell and Lilly Myrtle Lowery. They were contributed by Edna Birdwell Quick. Thank you, Edna. Have a great evening Rose Rose Birdwell To subscribe or unsubscribe: <BIRDWELL-L-request@rootsweb.com> To send queries or answers: <BIRDWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Problems or opinions: <birdwell@tri-county.main.nc.us> Birdtracks website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~birdtracks/

The Serena Birdwell that married a J.W. Young in Jackson County on 11 May 1873 was - beyond any doubt, but lacking in positive proof - was the daughter of George W. and Lucinda Birdwell ... This J.W. was John Young who was evidently previously married and had two daughters - Barbara J (1861) and Rhoda E. (1866). He and Serena were living just a few steps from George W and Lucinda Birdwell in 1880 - John Young and Serena named their first two children, Lucinda A. (born 1874) and George W. (born 1876) ... Jerry

Folks are asking me why I have the conclusions I have and I'm being asked for sources etc ... I'll give you what I have as long as my fingers hold out ... In the 1880 census, there are two Elizabeth Birdwells. (1) is the "Mother" (age 68) of John J. Birdwell and is living with John J. Birdwell ... She was born in Tenn - her parents in N.Carolina - N.Carolina Some Chaffin authors have placed this Elizabeth with the Abner Chaffin family (he was born 1765 in VA) - I have no better choice at this point .. (2) is a "Sister" (age 68) of George W. Bidwell and is living with George W. Birdwell She was born in Tenn - her parents in Tenn-Tenn The 1830 census for Margaret (McKaughan) Birdwell has a male and a female the ages of George W. and Elizabeth. However, where was this Elizabeth in 1850 - 60 - 70 ??? In Montgomery County in 1850, there is a 32 year old Elizabeth Birdwellliving with a Breeden family - Montgomery County is where Margaret ends up before she dies ... This would further support my conclusion that George W. was Margaret's son and a brother to Joseph (born 1803) and not Joseph (born 1809). My point of this post is to demonstrate the two Elizabeths are just that - Two Elizabeths ... Jerry

Hey Gang, I'm looking for any and all censuses for Jackson Co., Tennessee, no matter what surnames are on it, since Most of the people there were related anyway. I found the 1880 census on censuslinks.com, so I am putting them on the Articles page as we speak. I think that the 1850 census is also there, so will load that also, in the next few days. We could also use all the marriage records from that county. We're going to straighten this William 1772 line out, if we all work together! Have a great evening Rose Rose Birdwell To subscribe or unsubscribe: <BIRDWELL-L-request@rootsweb.com> To send queries or answers: <BIRDWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Problems or opinions: <birdwell@tri-county.main.nc.us> Birdtracks website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~birdtracks/

Rose - Here is the answer to your earlier question about Serena. I'll post it to the group in case someone wants to discuss it. There were two Serena Birdwells living in Jackson County at the same time and the same age (why not, huh ??) (1) Serena who was the daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth Chaffin Birdwell - She was born abt 1838 ... It has been reported that she was married to a J.W. Young .... I think she was married to a Joseph Jones (who was much older than her) as his second wife - Check out the 1870 Census of Jackson County ... To begin with, you won't find Serena Birdwell living at home with her parents - but you will find Joseph Jones and his children from his first marriage to a woman named Parthenia and Serena and a baby girl under one year old (Sarah E.) (2) Serena who was the daughter of George W. and Lucinda - She was born abt 1839 - I think this is the Serena Birdwell who married J. W. Young in Jackson County on 11 May 1873 ... I have not checked the 1880 census on this family yet. Just about all of this George W. Birdwell's children were still living at home during the 1870 census - Joseph C. (this must be where someone came up with a middle initial for a "Joseph" ??) born 1837 - Serena born 1839 - Mary Ann born 1844 - John B. born 1846 - George W. born 1848 - James born 1850 and Amanda born 1852 ... Son William born 1835 was married and living next door with his wife ... Daughter Margaret born 1841 - I have not located yet. Jerry

Hi Jerry--I am going to throw you for another loop I think. I have the same 2 Serena's that you have, one a daughter of Joseph J & Eliz. Chaffin and the other a daughter of Geo. W. and Lucinda Brown. I do not show either of them married. HOWEVER, I have a 3rd Serena.: Serena Catherine daughter of Joseph A. & Juston A. Van Hoozer. She was born 6-28-1870 in TX and died 10-4-1953 in Blue Ridge, TX married to Thomas Sidney Langham and had 9 children. I have their names if you need them. Please don't come down here to Florida and wring my neck for stirring things up. But if you do make it between the 18th of Sept. & 28th of Sept. I will be in Illinois and Indiana then. Good searching Velma

There were three known "Josephs" born 1803 - 1809 ... Number One Joseph - son of Benjamin in Washington/Sullivan County ... Forget this one .. HE WAS NEVER MARRIED AND PROBABLY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHERE JACKSON COUNTY WAS. Just for documention purposes ... 1 Sep 1809 to 16 Nov 1885 ... ok ?????? Number Two Joseph - probably the son of Margaret McKaughan and her husband - the "mystery" Joseph Birdwell... Number Two Joseph was born 13 Mar 1803 and died 12 Aug 1870 in Clay County, TN .... he was married to an Elizabeth Jane (we think her maiden name was Thackston) she was born 12 Mar 1809 and died 14 Nov 1884 in Clay County TN ... Number Two Joseph and Jane were the parents of: 1. Temple - born in ALABAMA 12 Dec 1827 2. Elizabeth - born in ALABAMA 9 Oct 1829 Weldon and I have a theory about Joseph number two and his first two children ,,,, why were they born in Alabama within a short time frame of William Birdwell being hanged => was that William Number Two Joseph's father, and not "Joseph Birdwell" as was claimed by Joab Brooks sometime in the 1870s in Arkansas ?? Could Joab, as a very old man, have confused his aunt Margaret McKaughan's husband as a Joseph instead of a William >>> ??? <<< ... Weldon and I think so, 3. Margaret - born in TN 9 Jan 1832 4. Phoebe Jane - born in TN 9 Sep 1833 5. Mariah - born in TN 5 May 1835 6. George W. - born in TN 20 Feb 1836 7. Joseph - born in TN 18 Mar 1839 8. Mary A. - born in TN 25 Apr 1841 9. William - born in TN 5 Apr 1844 10 Benjamin F. - born in TN 18 May 1846 11 Blake Thackston - born in TN 4 Jan 1849 Temple married Amanda Thackston - Elizabeth married George Long - George W. married a woman named Eliza A. - Joseph married a woman name Surelda - William married a woman named Nancy (Canzida??) - Benjamin F. married Mary A. Gaines and Blake Thackston Birdwell married a woman named S.B, Keith ....................... Number Three Joseph ... born about 1809 and died between 1870 and 1880 We do not know for sure who is the father of this Joseph ... Best "guess" has it as William Birdwell (the one born in 1772 and was the son of old George - this William was believed to have lived everywhere from Kingsport to Nashville) and Betsey Lefever - One other point ==>> this Betsy LeFever Birdwell is NOT RACHEL BIRDWELL .... ok ??? Number Three Joseph married Elizabeth Chaffin. Elizabeth is buried in Robertson County - She was born 11 Apr 1811 and died 7 Sep 1901 <== those dates are on her tombstone .... I have never said any of these Josephs had a middle intial of "J or C" On Birdtracks, using the "BIRDWELL index", Joseph C. or J. Birdwell is confused with the Number Three Joseph (see my rant and rave above) Number one was not married to Elizabeth Chaffin - Number three was. I also think some of the children on that same page as belonging to William and Betsy Birdwell are wrong - but, I can not prove it yet ... I have given Rose Birdwell what I belive to be is the family of William and Betsy LeFever Birdwell and their descendants as "proven by me to date" - she is in the process of putting it up on Birdtracks ... Jerry

That was the sound of my head hitting my keyboard ... I give up ... Jerry

I will throw mine in the pot and will welcome any corrections/additions. I would like to see some sources for additional children. Thanks Betty Young Bray Descendants of: William Birdwell 1 William Birdwell #586 b. 10 Feb 1772 James River, Botetourt County, Virginia d. Jackson County, Tennessee m. Rachael "Betsey" Lefevre #587 b. ca. 1784 South Carolina William Birdwell was born 10 February, 1772 in James River, Botetourt County, Virginia. He was the son of George Birdwell and Mary Looney. I do not know who the parents of Mary were. They may have been the Looney family living in Sumner Co., Tn. By 1806 William is in Jackson County, Tennessee where he signed "Petitioners for reduction of Constitutional Limits of Jackson County, Tennessee". William Birdwell is on the 1811 tax list for Jackson County, Tennessee. In Davidson County, Tennessee Deed Book 1, page 7, William Birdwell, on February 23, 1811, made release to Mary and George Birdwell, executors and c. of estate of George Birdwell, deceased. This will was proved in court of Montgomery County, Tennessee in 1811. The following taken from "Genealogical Abstracts From Tennessee Newspapers, 1791-1808,": Davidson County, Tennessee, Collection District number 9, Aigust 1, 1800. 1. Page 285:The following tracts of land will be exposed to public sale on the 22nd of January next, to satisfy the direct tax. Eli. Hammond, Collector. Reputed owner, William Birdwell, 120 acres, Wells Creek. 2. Page 77: Letter at the Williamsburgh Post Office, 01 July 1810 for James or William Birdwell. The following taken from "Tennessee Civil War Verterans Questionaires", compiled by Gustavus W. Dyer and John Trotwood Moore: William Birdwell lived with his family near Gainesboro, Jackson County, Tennessee. 1820 US Census, Jackson County, Tennessee Birdwell, William - 1 male <10 - 1 male 10-15 - 1 male 45+ - 3 females <10 - 1 female 10-16 - 1 female 16-26 - 1 female 26-45 2 Joseph Birdwell #989 b. 1803 Tennessee d. 1870-80 Jackson County, Tennessee m. Elizabeth Jane #2719 b. 1809 d. after 1880 Probably Clay County, Tennessee 2 George Washington Birdwell #990 b. 1809 Jackson County, Tennessee d. aft 1880 m. Lucinda B. Brown #995 m. ca 1819 b. 06 Mar 1803 Jackson County, Tenn., d. 01 Aug 1879 Jackson County, Tennessee 1850 Census, Jackson county, TN, Dist 3: listing under Burdwell: family #1017 George W. 40 farming TN Lucinda 36 children listed: William 16; Serena-11; Joseph-14; Margaret 9; Polly-7: John -5; George-3; James-1 1860 US Census, Jackson County, Tennessee, Page 34, Row 207 Birdwell, George..........Age 51..............b.:Tn. Lucinda...........................Age 53 9 Children 2 Elizabeth Birdwell #991 b. 11 Apr 1811 Jackson County, Tennessee d. 07 Sep 1901 Jackson County, Tennessee Elizabeth was single and living with her brother, George in 1880 census 2 John Harvey Birdwell, Sr. #992 b. 25 Apr 1812 Jackson County, Tennessee d. 01 Oct 1892 Jackson County, Tennessee m. Martha Chaffin #996 m. 1836 Jackson County, Tennessee b. 18 Oct 1814 Jackson County, Tennessee d. 31 Jan 1897 Jackson County, Tennessee [daughter of Joseph Chaffin #467 and Nancy N. Fox #468] Jackson County, TN 1850 Census, Dist 8: family 392 John Birdwell 38 farmer TN Martha 32 children listed: William-12; Joab-9; Benjamin-7; Sary A.-5; John-3; Thomas-1 2 Nancy Birdwell #993 b. 1813 Jackson County, Tennessee 2 Sellers Birdwell #994 b. ca. 1815 Jackson County, Tennessee (This name was given to me and I have no source. Would appreciate one, if true.) 2 Polly Ann Birdwell #571 b. 03 May 1816 Jackson County, Tenn. d. 11 Aug. 1904 Jackson Co. Tenn. m. Johnson Spurlock #570 m. ca. 1837 Jackson County, Tennessee b. 12 Mar 1814 Princeton, Cardwell County, Kentucky d. 07 Dec 1894 Jackson County, Tennessee [son of Harvey Spurlock #584 and Milly Anderson/Milly Wheeler #585] I am descended from Polly Ann and Johnson Spurlock

Hi Rose--here is what I have on Joseph J. born 9-1-1809 Washington Co. TN died 11-16-1885, Robertson or Jackson Co. TN. son of Benjamin Birdwell and Mary Perry, married abt 1830 to Elizabeth Chaffin--11 children: 1. Ruth no dates 2. Lucinda b abt 1832 3. Lavina b 5-29-1834, same info as you 4. William b 1836-same info as you 5. Syrena b 1838 6. John J b 12-23-1840 7. Sally 8. Amanda b 1847 9. Johnson b 1849 10 George w. b. 1851 11. Polly b 1852 I do not show a Melvina or a Wm. Fox Mabery You show Joseph Marion born to this couple but I show him born to Joseph married to Jane Elizabeth. I hope someone out there can straighten us out on who is married to who or whom? and who are the parents? Please let me know Velma

I know I have sent this to the list before but it may help answer a few questions. ------Abstract of Rev. War Pension File------ BIRDWELL, Benjamin, Mary W 218, NC Line sol appl 25 Sept 1832 Sullivan Cty TN aged 67, sol lived in Sullivan Cty NC (not TN) at enl in 1781, wid appl 6 Feb 1845 Sullivan Cty TN aged 73, sol m. Mary Perry on 3 Mar 1791, sol d 17 Oct 1840, children were George b.12 Feb 1792, David b.26 Sep 1794, Jesse b.17 Dec 1796, Elizabeth b.22 Jan 1799, Mary b.13 Dec 1800, Benjamin b.3 Feb 1803, Jane b.16 Jan 1805, Nancy b.20 May 1807, Joseph b.1Sep 1809, Rowland P. b.20 May1812, and Bueal b.30 Mar 1818. David, Joseph, and Rowland P. were born in Washington Co. TN, the rest in Sullivan Cty, TN,sol's daughter Mary m. 2Apr1820 to Jonathan(Heiter?)<--This name is Weller. From "A Census of Pensioners for Revolutionary or Military Services; General Index" Page 154 Vera

Velma, Have to agree again. Here are the other census records I copied. 1850 Smith Co., Tn Census(524-498)-BIRDWELL, Joseph 41, TN, Elizabeth 39, TN, Lucinda 18, Lavina 16, William 14, Syrena 12, Malvina 12, John 10, Marion 8, Sally 5, Amanda 3, Johnson 1. 1860 Jackson Co., TN Census (J-36-285):BIRDWELL, Joseph 53, Elizabeth 51, Carena 21, Melvina 21, John 19, Marion 17, Sally 14, Ruth 12, George 9, Polly 8, BURTON, Elizabeth 40, pauper, CANTRELL, Jerry 70, pauper, MCCARVER, Reed 40. pauper. 1870 Jackson Co., TN Census-Joseph C. 62, Elizabeth 60, G.W. 20, M.J.18, S. SADLER (m) 91, Jerry CANTRELL 87, Nancy SMITH 89, Thomas PERKINS 40, Alfred PRICE 3, Elizabeth WRIGHT 5. NOTE:Jerry Anderson has middle initial as J. and 1870 Census of Jackson Co. has C.????? CHILDREN'S census data: Lavina: 1850 Jackson Co., TN-Dist 11-Oct. 30, 1850-#725:BILLINGSLEY, James M. 20, farming, $150, TN, Sophia 15, TN. 1860 Jackson Co., TN Census:1176-BILLINGSLEY, Jas., 30, farmer, TN, Louisa, 26, TN, Thomas, 7, TN, McDonald 5, TN, John 6m., TN. 1880 Jackson Co., TN:#230:BILLINGSLEY, James, 50, Luverna 46, James 17, Mary 15, Carry 12, Vorranda 10, Toby 7(f), Luartha 4, Arby 1(f). William: 1860 Census Jackson Co., TN-BIRDWELL, William 23, farmer, TN, Phereby 19, TN, Mary 7/12, TN. John: 1870 census of Jackson Co., TN-BIRDWELL, John 29, Mariah 25, William C. 5, Mary C. 2, Samuel 1/12. 1880 Census of Jackson Co., TN- BIRDWELL, John 40, Mariah 36, William H. 15, Mary 12, Dannel (?Samuel) 10, John 5, James 3, Elizabeth (mother) 68.Edna Quick BIRDWELL has his dates as b. Dec. 22, 1840 and dying Sept. 25, 1916.From Tennessee Confederate Pension application by Mariah:1061130-Mariah H. Birdwell (Kirby) (1) Robertson Co., (2) 1844 Jackson Co. (3) John J. Birdwell, 1840 Jackson Co. (4) 1864 Smith Co. (5)1915 Greenbriar, TN. Joseph Marion: 1870 Jackson Co., Census(J-127-45):BIRDWELL, Marian 21, C. (f) 16, ? (m) 4, W.F. 2. Mary: 1880 Jackson Co., TN #228:BILLINGSLEY, Polk 27, Pollie 28, William 4, Elizabeth 2, Sarah 8/12. Vera

Velma, I have what you had and decided to list some of the census that I found that might help.I entered them like they were. 1850 Smith Co., TN Census-BIRDWELL, Joseph 47, Jane 41, Elizabeth 18, Margaret J. 17, Phoebe J. 15, Mariah 14, George 12, Joseph 11, Mary 9, William 7, Benjamin 4, Blake 4. (All born in TN) 1860 Jackson Co., TN Census-BIRDWELL, Joseph 57, blacksmith, Jane 50, houstends, George W. 23, farming, Joseph 21, farming, Pheby 24, houstend, Marey 19,houstend, William 17, farming, Benjamin 13, Blake 12. 1870 Jackson Co., TN Census-BIRDWELL, Joseph 66, Jane 60, Phebe J. 30, Mary A. 25, Blake T. 21, CRAWFORD, Peter 16. Children's Census: Temple: 1850 Smith Co., TN Census-BIRDWELL, Temple 22, Ala Amanda 21, TN William 7/12. TN. 1860 Jackson Co., TN Census-BIRDWELL, T.S. 33, AL, Farmer, Amanda 30, TN, Housetender, William 10, TN, Benjamin 8, TN, George 3, TN. 1880 Jackson Co., TN Census-BIRDWELL,Temphle 52, (county trustee), Amanda F. 52, William C. 30, Benjamin 27, George W. 22, WRIGHT, Emma 18(servant), LAW, Laneza? 5(orphan). All were born in Tn except for Temple who was born in Alabama. Elizabeth: 1860 Jackson Co., TN-# 248 Dist 2:LONG, George 28, farmer, Elizabeth 29, Houstend, William 5, Joseph 3, Thomas J. 1.(All b. TN) Benjamin: 1870 Jackson Co., Tn Census-Benjamin 24, Mary A. 19. 1880 Jackson Co., TN Census 141-142 (Dist 2) Mary A. head, 29, widow,Joseph B. 9, Bell E. 7, William H. 4, Luler A. 1, James RENES 23, farmhand. (Sistler census has Mary A. RINES 13 and James RINES 23 living with Mary.) Blake: According to WFT 17-1880 census of Clay Co., TN, 4th Civil District, listed as living with wife and 3 daughters, his mother Jane, age 71, and his sister Phoebe Jane, age 45. Vera

Hi Rose--I differ with you on some of your information. I will go through it name by name: first child you list 1. Jane "Jennie""Windy" Birdwell, I have 2 Jane "Jennie" names in file: 1. born 1797 daughter of Joseph & Rachel Russell 2. born abt. 1794 daughter of Isaac G & Jane Russell I have a Wm. Fox with inquiry from Karenmailto:krmatthews@juno.com 3-23-2000 concerning Wm. Fox & son Bartlett Anderson Fox m. to Althea G Haile. I ck'd FTM & they have him under 1850 Census Jackson Co. TN Dist 11 & stated he was a shoemaker & had 11 children 2. Melvina Birdwell I show Melvina's in-laws as Tommie Brown b 6-28-1773, Va & Nancy Jane Litton 3. Joseph C or J. Birdwell---this is where I really have different info I show Joseph married to Jane Elizabeth born 3-12-1809, d 11-11-1884-10 children 1. Elizabeth b abt 1832 2. Margaret b abt 1833 3. Phoebe Jane b 9-1833 4. Mariah T b 1836, m. Wm. W. Holcomb 5. George b abt 1841, m. Eliza 6. Mary b abt 1841 7. Joseph Marion b 12-24-1842 m to Canazaty Tonsata Brown 8. William T. born 1844, d. 1908 m. to Nancy 9. Benjamin b. abt 1846 10. Blake T. born 1-1849 m. to S. Delpha Keith on 4-23-1876. I also have 1880 Census of Clay Co. TN. 4th Civil District listed him as living with wife & 3 daughters & mother Jane, age 71 & sister P. Jane age 45. On 2-7-2000 I rec'd e-mail from Barbramailto:bax@wfeca.net subj. Church of Christ-Trace Creek Jackson Co. TN 1867 listing Blake T. with Jane, Mary, Benjamin Burdwell & Cansada Burdwell You show Joseph C or J married to Elizabeth M. Chaffin. I have other info on that & will send that separately by e-mail 4. George Washington Birdwell I have same info & also have 14 children listed 5. Serena--I do not show her at all 6. Elizabeth Birdwell-I have same info 7. John Harvey Birdwell---I have same info down to Martha "Emiline" Birdwell-- you show her married to Wm. Cleveland/Campbell--I show her married to William Campbell Aytes 8. I have a Nancy born 1814, no other info 9. Mary Ann " Polly" Birdwell--same info I will send the other info on J. Birdwell next Velma

Hey Gang, there have been a lot of new pages on the William 1772 family added over the last few days, with the help of Jerry Anderson. Please go thru them and let me know if there are any broken links or mess-ups. I need all the help I can get on this family line!! Also, in the Articles section, under the Eliz.C. Jones booklet, Margaret rescanned the pages for me, and now they are very readable and very printable. Check it out! And tonight I received obits from Bobby Fox. Thank you, Bobby, I'll load them tonight! I'm still looking for any pictures or documents that you all have hidden away, or in most cases :-) laying in piles on your desk and office floor. Have a great weekend Rose Rose Birdwell To subscribe or unsubscribe: <BIRDWELL-L-request@rootsweb.com> To send queries or answers: <BIRDWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Problems or opinions: <birdwell@tri-county.main.nc.us> Birdtracks website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~birdtracks/

Hey Gang, I have added a new page to the Articles page, titles Notebook of Caroline Elizabeth Jones, w/o Andrew A. Birdwell. If you want to print these out, you will have to set your printer on Landscape. This notebook was contributed by Margaret Baldock, who inherited it. Read her correspondence below. Also, tonight when I can get back on the internet (limited time for me), I will be adding the pictures for the Vietnam Wall Experience. As most of you already know, my husband's brother, George Alfred Birdwell, was killed over there. There is also another Birdwell, Michael Del, who was killed there. If any of you have his family line, would you send it to me? Thanks bunches. Rose Margaret's email is: mgb@zianet.com > Rose..........I have in my possession a small booklet (like a 3 x 4 in. > > notebook) hardback that has the missing info on Eliz. C. Jones wife of > > Andrew Birdwell and her siblings as well as birthdates of Robert Russel & > > George Thomas Birdwell. There are Jones, Billingsley & Owens also > > mentioned. The opening date on the top line of the 1st page is 18 June > > 1865. Its very old writing and many misspellings. If you would like a > > copy of what is listed, I'll be glad to supply it. > > > > Margaret Baldock Yes, I can scan it........I'm not related to the Birdwells. My m-i-l was raised by her aunt & uncle, Perry M. & Annie Boss Owens and they had only one natural child.....Perry Jr. He never md. and all the family info went to my m-i-l. When she died my f-i-l gave it to me because I'm very interested in genealogy. I'll copy the info and tell you more and you'll understand I also need help to put this family together Yes, you are welcome to use my name and email. Hopefully, this will help some others. I just hated having this and not sharing the info. When I got it over three yrs ago I tried to find some links to no avail.........about a yr later I did the same thing. I put it aside again, but it was calling me heavy duty this time. Rose Birdwell To subscribe or unsubscribe: <BIRDWELL-L-request@rootsweb.com> To send queries or answers: <BIRDWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Problems or opinions: <birdwell@tri-county.main.nc.us> Birdtracks website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~birdtracks/

This is the information I have on Benjamin and Margaret (Campbell) Birdwell: Descendants of Benjamin Birdwell 1 Benjamin BIRDWELL .. +Margaret CAMPBELL ...... 2 John W. BIRDWELL b: November 16, 1852 .......... +Sarah C. "Sally" BIRDWELL b: Abt. 1869 in Texas ............... 3 Reuel Claude BIRDWELL b: June 20, 1891 in Bryson, TX ................... +Grace RUTH ....................... 4 Reuel Claude BIRDWELL ....................... 4 Robert Adrian BIRDWELL ............... 3 Otho Douglas BIRDWELL b: September 16, 1894 in Jack Co., TX ................... +Nora JOHNSON ....................... 4 Oliver BIRDWELL ....................... 4 Louise BIRDWELL ....................... 4 J.W. BIRDWELL ............... 3 Robert Elvis BIRDWELL b: March 19, 1901 d: July 19, 1957 in Palo Pinto Co., TX ................... +Alline HELVEY ....................... 4 James Elvis BIRDWELL ....................... 4 Henry Dalton BIRDWELL ............... 3 John Adrian BIRDWELL b: January 18, 1903 in Jack Co., TX d: June 07, 1993 in Texas ................... +Maggie JOHNSON ....................... 4 Charles Edward BIRDWELL ............... 3 Benjamin Carl BIRDWELL d: May 13, 1957 in Potter Co., TX ................... +Maggie HESTER ....................... 4 Margaret Jane BIRDWELL ....................... 4 John Carl BIRDWELL ....................... 4 Bessie BIRDWELL ............... 3 Cassie Marie BIRDWELL d: Bef. 1952 ............... 3 Lydia BIRDWELL d: Bef. 1952 ................... +Wilford HELVEY ....................... 4 Wilford Douglas HELVEY ....................... 4 Marguerite HELVEY ...... 2 Reuel H. BIRDWELL b: Abt. April 1850 in Sullivan Co., TN .......... +Mary E. BIRDWELL b: November 22, 1858 in Texas ............... 3 Clara Irene BIRDWELL ................... +John Other HESTER ....................... 4 Lois Juanita HESTER ........................... +Wid R. ROBERTS ....................... 4 Mary Lucille HESTER ........................... +Raymond C. KELCY ................................ 5 Gary Raymond KELCY