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    1. Re: Reunion
    2. Jim McMillen
    3. Some comments from a Birdwell spouse: We would love to come to the reunion in Tyler, but we already have reservations in New Mexico for a family reunion the same weekend. Can anyone explain why so many family groups choose the middest of midsummer to get together? For some outdoor activities. In Texas? In July? Let's see, if we wanted to go to a dinner in late July we would have to make reservations by May 15. We've heard of slow cooking, but for ten weeks? Cheers, Jim

    05/25/2002 05:55:00
    1. Re: Reunion
    2. Pete and Rose Birdwell
    3. --=======46FC2F3F======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-7900296E; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hey Lou and Everyone, I changed the format on Birdtracks, everything that I have in my files are now posted online. There is still a lot of tweaking to do, but this new program that I found made my whole gedcom into html files, and I couldn't pass it up!! I will be updating it monthly, and am working on getting the pictures and documents posted. For the time being, just click on the link below to get to the Articles page. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~birdtracks/articles.html Have a great day, and hope to see you all in Tyler :-) Rose At 11:30 PM 5/23/2002 -0500, you wrote: >At 12:35 PM 5/11/02 -0400, you wrote: >>--======= >> >> >>Bobbye, the reunion info is on >> >>Birdtracks http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~birdtracks/ >> >>Go to Articles, and it is at the top of the page. >> >>Hope that this helps. >> >>TTFN >> >>Rose >> >> >> > > >Hi, Rose, > >I have talked to Aggie and she is working on trying to get directions to >get to the Allen Birdwell cabin, though I understand visitors are not at >all welcome. I tried the above page a while back and it worked fine >but tonight when I tried it tonight I got something completely different - >but wonderful! However, though I have a printed invitation, I would >like to know where I can locate the reunion information and >Birdtracks. TIA, > >Lou > > > > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.363 / Virus Database: 201 - Release Date: 5/21/2002 --=======46FC2F3F======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-7900296E Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.363 / Virus Database: 201 - Release Date: 5/21/2002 --=======46FC2F3F=======--

    05/24/2002 02:31:11
    1. Re: Reunion
    2. Lou Parris
    3. At 12:35 PM 5/11/02 -0400, you wrote: >--======= > > >>Bobbye, the reunion info is on > >>Birdtracks http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~birdtracks/ > >>Go to Articles, and it is at the top of the page. > >>Hope that this helps. > >>TTFN > >>Rose > >> > > Hi, Rose, I have talked to Aggie and she is working on trying to get directions to get to the Allen Birdwell cabin, though I understand visitors are not at all welcome. I tried the above page a while back and it worked fine but tonight when I tried it tonight I got something completely different - but wonderful! However, though I have a printed invitation, I would like to know where I can locate the reunion information and Birdtracks. TIA, Lou

    05/23/2002 05:30:46
    1. Re: Reunion Auction
    2. Shirley Crozier
    3. WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL ME WHAT IS GOING ON? REUNION? WHERE? WHEN? WHAT IS AUCTION? I HAVE RECEIVED NOTHING! Shirley Green Crozier, Boyne City, MI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete and Rose Birdwell" <birdwell@webworkz.com> To: <BIRDWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 10:24 PM Subject: Re: Reunion Auction > --=======30324A6======= > Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-34AF8CC; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > No, Lou, there is no minimum value, and they don't have to be Birdwell related. > Rose > > At 09:20 PM 5/13/2002 -0500, you wrote: > > >I take it the auction items do not have to be Birdwell related. Is > >there a minimum value? > > > >Lou > > > >At 09:23 PM 5/13/02 -0400, you wrote: > >>--=======2F104A85======= > >>Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-34AF8CC; charset=us-ascii; > >>format=flowed > >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >> > >>To answer this question, last year (my first year of attending), there were > >>hand made items from a lot of the folks, there were Birdwell Britches > >>items, there were cookbooks, gosh, just too many items to name. So if > >>you're planning on attending, bring something for the auction!! > >>TTFN > >>Rose > > > > > > > > > >--- > >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 5/7/2002 > > --=======30324A6======= > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-34AF8CC > Content-Disposition: inline > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 5/7/2002 > > --=======30324A6=======--

    05/14/2002 07:29:44
    1. Re: Reunion Auction
    2. Pete and Rose Birdwell
    3. --=======30324A6======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-34AF8CC; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit No, Lou, there is no minimum value, and they don't have to be Birdwell related. Rose At 09:20 PM 5/13/2002 -0500, you wrote: >I take it the auction items do not have to be Birdwell related. Is >there a minimum value? > >Lou > >At 09:23 PM 5/13/02 -0400, you wrote: >>--=======2F104A85======= >>Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-34AF8CC; charset=us-ascii; >>format=flowed >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >> >>To answer this question, last year (my first year of attending), there were >>hand made items from a lot of the folks, there were Birdwell Britches >>items, there were cookbooks, gosh, just too many items to name. So if >>you're planning on attending, bring something for the auction!! >>TTFN >>Rose > > > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 5/7/2002 --=======30324A6======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-34AF8CC Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 5/7/2002 --=======30324A6=======--

    05/13/2002 04:24:37
    1. Re: Reunion Auction
    2. Pete and Rose Birdwell
    3. --=======2F104A85======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-34AF8CC; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To answer this question, last year (my first year of attending), there were hand made items from a lot of the folks, there were Birdwell Britches items, there were cookbooks, gosh, just too many items to name. So if you're planning on attending, bring something for the auction!! TTFN Rose At 08:42 PM 5/13/2002 -0400, you wrote: >I will be attending the reunion in Tyler because that is 'home' to me, > though I live in Mississippi now. I have never been to a Birdwell >Reunion. Perhaps some of my other family will attend, since they do still >live in East Texas. What sort of things are brought to be auctioned off? >Can someone tell me? Thanks, Lovey Rhodes Smitham > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 5/7/2002 --=======2F104A85======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-34AF8CC Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 5/7/2002 --=======2F104A85=======--

    05/13/2002 03:23:16
    1. Re: Reunion Auction
    2. Lou Parris
    3. I take it the auction items do not have to be Birdwell related. Is there a minimum value? Lou At 09:23 PM 5/13/02 -0400, you wrote: >--=======2F104A85======= >Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-34AF8CC; charset=us-ascii; >format=flowed >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >To answer this question, last year (my first year of attending), there were >hand made items from a lot of the folks, there were Birdwell Britches >items, there were cookbooks, gosh, just too many items to name. So if >you're planning on attending, bring something for the auction!! >TTFN >Rose

    05/13/2002 03:20:56
    1. Re: Reunion
    2. Pete and Rose Birdwell
    3. --=======30B241ED======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-34AF8CC; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hey All, the Auction at the Reunion is the way Aggie makes money for the next years reunion. All the stuff is donated by Birdwell family members. And it's great fun!!! For all of you that missed it, the url for the reunion information is at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~birdtracks/2002Reunion.html Have a good evening Rose At 08:49 PM 5/13/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Reply to Shirley Crozier also, about reunion. I have NEVER been to one and >just found this wonderfully, helpful extended family of mine!1 WHAT >AUCTION?? Somthing from Michigan perhaps? scroz@nmo.net >----- Original Message ----- >From: <LoveysCCC@aol.com> >To: <BIRDWELL-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:42 PM >Subject: Re: Reunion > > > > I will be attending the reunion in Tyler because that is 'home' to >me, > > though I live in Mississippi now. I have never been to a Birdwell > > Reunion. Perhaps some of my other family will attend, since they do >still > > live in East Texas. What sort of things are brought to be auctioned >off? > > Can someone tell me? Thanks, Lovey Rhodes Smitham > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 5/7/2002 --=======30B241ED======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-34AF8CC Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 5/7/2002 --=======30B241ED=======--

    05/13/2002 03:16:04
    1. Re: Reunion
    2. Shirley Crozier
    3. Reply to Shirley Crozier also, about reunion. I have NEVER been to one and just found this wonderfully, helpful extended family of mine!1 WHAT AUCTION?? Somthing from Michigan perhaps? scroz@nmo.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <LoveysCCC@aol.com> To: <BIRDWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:42 PM Subject: Re: Reunion > I will be attending the reunion in Tyler because that is 'home' to me, > though I live in Mississippi now. I have never been to a Birdwell > Reunion. Perhaps some of my other family will attend, since they do still > live in East Texas. What sort of things are brought to be auctioned off? > Can someone tell me? Thanks, Lovey Rhodes Smitham

    05/13/2002 02:49:30
    1. Re: Reunion
    2. I will be attending the reunion in Tyler because that is 'home' to me, though I live in Mississippi now. I have never been to a Birdwell Reunion. Perhaps some of my other family will attend, since they do still live in East Texas. What sort of things are brought to be auctioned off? Can someone tell me? Thanks, Lovey Rhodes Smitham

    05/13/2002 02:42:39
    1. Re: Reunion
    2. Shirley Crozier
    3. What is the Tyler Reunion??? I never got a message and have just found all of my LONG, LOST relatives. I would LOVE to meet each and everyone of you. Perhaps George W. would show up? Wouldn't THAT be a trip?? Let me know, as I am planning a trip to the south to see my family and friends and it would be great to meet all of you! Shirley Green (Scott) (Birdwell) Crozier ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley Crozier" <scroz@nmo.net> To: <BIRDWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 6:21 PM Subject: Re: Reunion > What's this "In Tyler?? Reunion?? I never got a message and just found all > of you. HELP!! scroz@nmo.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lou Parris" <louparris@pdq.net> > To: <BIRDWELL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 2:05 PM > Subject: Re: Reunion > > > > At 11:56 AM 5/13/02 -0500, you wrote: > > >Dear Lovey, > > >Thanks very much for all the good information. > > > > Ooops! Apologies to all. I thought I sent this as a private post, but > > obviously something went wrong. > > > > See many of you in July in Tyler, I hope. > > > > Lou

    05/13/2002 02:08:18
    1. Re: Reunion
    2. Shirley Crozier
    3. What's this "In Tyler?? Reunion?? I never got a message and just found all of you. HELP!! scroz@nmo.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lou Parris" <louparris@pdq.net> To: <BIRDWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 2:05 PM Subject: Re: Reunion > At 11:56 AM 5/13/02 -0500, you wrote: > >Dear Lovey, > >Thanks very much for all the good information. > > Ooops! Apologies to all. I thought I sent this as a private post, but > obviously something went wrong. > > See many of you in July in Tyler, I hope. > > Lou

    05/13/2002 12:21:10
    1. 1870 Giles Co., Tennessee
    2. Pete and Rose Birdwell
    3. --=======397C756B======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-33E03845; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hey Gang, I found this census today (online, of course): 1870 Giles Co., Tennessee District 13, Burford Station Page 271 197 197 Stewart, William 62 M W Farm Laborer 300 North Carolina x Stewart, Nancy 54 F W Keeping House Tennessee x Birdwell, William J. 8 M W Tennessee Birdwell, Mary 10 F W Tennessee x x Does anyone know who these children belong to? I am thinking that they are the children of John Alexander Birdwell (d c 23 Dec 1871 in TX) and Mrs. Elizabeth G. Johnson Birdwell (d c 1870 in TX). Does anyone know for sure? Thank you Rose --=======397C756B======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-33E03845 Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 5/7/2002 --=======397C756B=======--

    05/13/2002 08:02:22
    1. Re: Reunion
    2. Lou Parris
    3. At 11:56 AM 5/13/02 -0500, you wrote: >Dear Lovey, >Thanks very much for all the good information. Ooops! Apologies to all. I thought I sent this as a private post, but obviously something went wrong. See many of you in July in Tyler, I hope. Lou

    05/13/2002 07:05:04
    1. Re: Reunion
    2. Lou Parris
    3. Dear Lovey, Thanks very much for all the good information. First I have to say that my efforts at genealogy are very spotty. I have actually done no research myself, but have relied on the various records kept by family members. So there are quite a lot of gaps and probably a lot of errors too. One of these days, I will actually get serious about this, but not for a while yet, I don't think. But I do intend to come to the reunion this year. My roots are in the Tyler area (my father was from Tyler and my mother from Troup, a small town not far away). It was only a few years ago that we sold my grandparent's home at 522 S. Chilton in Tyler. I live in Houston, so it is an easy trip. I will be coming with my cousin Sylvia Swift Besing (lives in Dallas). Sylvia's mother Patsy (really Alice) Birdwell Swift and my father Seth Kilgore Birdwell were siblings, both children of Preston Kilgore Birdwell and Alice Gunter Birdwell. Syliva grew up in Nacogdoches and graduated (as did a lot of my kin) from SFA. I hope you will be attending. At 02:55 PM 5/11/02 -0400, you wrote: >Well, the Birdwell house is in Rusk, on the way to Tyler, Texas, on the >same property as the Jude Devereaux Plantation. There is also the >Birdwell Cemetery close by. I knew about the house being in Rusk County, but not about the cemetery. I really would like to see the Birdwell cabin. I have some documentation on it, though it is rather old (originally sent to my mother from Mrs. Carl Jaggers in 1967) including an invitation to the presentation of the medallion and some original photos. This same stuff was resent to my sister Caroline Patrick in 1996, but I don't think any new information was added. As I said, a few years ago we tried a visit and had the same experience as you - dogs, and all. My cousin (not on the Birdwell side) who is from that area told me that historic houses sometimes got a tax break with the understanding that they could in some way be viewed. I don't know if this is true of the Birdwell cabin. > >My ancestors are, >(me) Lovey Rhodes Smitham > Dooma Bell Rhodes > John B., Bell > Sarah Jane Vaught Bell > Lucinda Birdwell Vaught (sister of Col. Allen Birdwell > Hey, that makes us some kind of cousins, I guess. Col. Allen Birdwell was my gg grandfather. His son, George Preston, was my g-grandfather. My grandfather was Preston Kilgore Birdwell. Alton W. Birdwell was his brother. AW Birdwell taught in Troup before he was at SFA so my mother's family knew him as well. Re George Birdwell (or Old George as he seems to be called), I have heard that the connection to him is questionable - do you know much about it? Seems to me someone said that the genealogy was done by a professional genealogist, but she somehow got it wrong. > > William Alton Birdwell, Col. Allen > Birdwell's grandson (by >his son George Preston Birdwell) was the first president of Stephen F. >Austin State Teachers College (later changed to University) in >Nacogdoches. I have never looked at the Birdwell material at SFA. And I certainly didn't know about the John C. Birdwell letters. They sound so interesting! I have (I'm sure you have seen it) a piece written later in his life by George Preston Birdwell talking about his father, their coming to Texas, and GP's role in the Civil War. >. > Possibly, because of the prestige they carried, the >letters from John Calhoun Birdwell, son of the Col. Allen B., during the >Civil War, are housed there, in the East Texas Research Center. Copies of >all 60 pages, of the letters are available for the cost of printing and >mailing. In those letters, from Camp Hope (changed to Camp Nelson) in >AR. he speaks of my great grandfather's death and burial there while he, >himself, was on the forced icy march to Helena. in 1862. The detailed >account is remarkable, of many of those who served with him, from Rusk >and Nacogdoches, and were among the 1500 who died at Camp Hope- Nelson. . >There are letters from his wife, also, and how it was , in Rusk, while he >was gone. He enlisted with my great grandfather, (his first cousin's >husband), Oscar Bell., and John C's younger brother, Billy (who died in >the Chicago prison, after the AR Post battle. John C. escaped, to >return to his company, and finally back home to his family, and the tanning >business. > A Memorial Cemetery was built near there, to honor those 1500 >who died at Camp Hope-Nelson, buried without identification. They would >like very much to be able to identify those bones, dug up from the fields >of the campsite, and brought to the Cemetery for proper burial and honor. >They want service records also, for these men who served there. I have >sent copies of all of the letters John Calhoun Birdwell wrote while >there, identifying, so many of them, and they were grateful. You are at this point the closest Birdwell I have seen on the Birdwell mailing list. (Except my first cousin did show up once, but he and I have the same info.) Please excuse my lack of knowledge and organization about this. I will be glad to share any information I might have that would be useful to you, and be very grateful for any of yours or any guidance you care to give. Lou (a girl - well, kind of an older woman)

    05/13/2002 05:56:01
    1. Re: Virus letters and hoaxes
    2. Pete and Rose Birdwell
    3. --=======36F171C2======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-57443F10; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hey Gang, I'm sorry that I didn't catch this virus warning, I've been out of town for the last few weeks on a family medical emergency, and not near a pc at all. For future reference...please...send any virus warning to me directly (birdwell@webworkz.com), I will then check it out, and if need be, warn the rest of you. And it's the best idea to have a really good virus protection program. I use a free one, and it's the best that I have found, including the paid subscription ones. Since I have installed this program (www.grisoft.com), I've not had one problem. But..like Lou said, I have also changed over to Eudora, which is not as virus prone as Outlook. Have a great weekend Rose At 09:18 AM 4/24/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Hey Jim, go easy on Earl. Yeah, most of us know that a mailing list is >not the place to post virus notices - and especially if the virus is (as >this one is) a hoax. But I would hope this kind of direction would come >from our "list mom" I make an alternative proposal - before posting any >virus warning, check it out at one of the many virus hoax web sites. My >personal favorite is >http://www.stiller.com/hoaxa.htm >but there are many - and sometimes it's necessary to check several to >identify something as either a virus or a hoax. Note - almost any >warning that says "send this to everyone...." is a hoax. Also note that >Microsoft never (so far) announces virus warnings. The major virus >software web sites (Norton, McAfee, etc.) keep good track of both viruses >and hoaxes. Best protection: back up data files, use virus software and >update it very often. I use Eudora as my E-mail client which (depending >on options you select) offers some protection that might not be available >on Outlook Express. > >Sorry this is off topic. > >Lou > > >At 07:55 PM 4/23/02 -0500, Jim McMillen wrote: >>To Earl Thompson and all >> >>Angry that you would do this? You bet, it was unnecessary and >>inexcusable! > > > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.350 / Virus Database: 196 - Release Date: 4/17/2002 --=======36F171C2======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-57443F10 Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.360 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 5/7/2002 --=======36F171C2=======--

    05/11/2002 04:44:23
    1. New Hope Missionary Baptist Church Cemetery, Carroll Co., TN
    2. Pete and Rose Birdwell
    3. --=======4A0F3D77======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-4B3A78FF; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hey All, Does anyone know anything about this family of Birdwells? How are they related? Birdwell, Opal Lillian Blount 5/14/1899-6/25/1988 shares stone with Birdwell, Millard Clayton 7/23/1894-10/29/1925 Birdwell, Felix Warren 8/17/1904-9/24/1965 (Who was his wife?) Birdwell, Infant Daughter 1927-1927 Dau of Mr. & Mrs. F.W. Birdwell Birdwell, James M. 1863-1935 shares stone with Birdwell, Mattie G. 1867-1935 Birdwell, V.S. 1852-1927 (Who was his wife?) Birdwell, Gilvie 1895-1927 shares stone with Birdwell, Brasco, 1913-1971 (Mother & Son? Who was her husband and his wife?) Thank you and have a great day Rose --=======4A0F3D77======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-4B3A78FF Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.360 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 5/7/2002 --=======4A0F3D77=======--

    05/11/2002 10:22:18
    1. Re: Reunion
    2. Well, the Birdwell house is in Rusk, on the way to Tyler, Texas, on the same property as the Jude Devereaux Plantation. There is also the Birdwell Cemetery close by. I, too, was not welcome and they turned the dogs on me, without asking any questions as to who I was. When I told them that the Col. Birdwell was my great great grandmother's brother, she grumbled, " 'There are millions of Birdwells and they all come here wanting to see this house. No!". It is a very beautiful house and people live there. Most historical medallion houses are houses for personal living. My ancestors are, (me) Lovey Rhodes Smitham Dooma Bell Rhodes John B., Bell Sarah Jane Vaught Bell Lucinda Birdwell Vaught (sister of Col. Allen Birdwell John Birdwell and Mary Allen George Birdwell Benjamin Birdwell The Birdwell family, and the Col.'s house is written up in the Rusk Historical Society's pamplet they give out to visitors and there are pictures hanging there of the Birdwell house. It seems that when the boards were taken off the house, the original logs were underneath. Also, architectural details appear in one of the Rusk historical books, as outstanding construction. Col. Allen Birdwell lived in Henderson, Texas, and when Henderson burned down, he was listed in the 'top 20 wealthy men'. Fortunately, most of his money was not in buildings and houses, when they burned. He still had most of his money, after the town burned down. William Alton Birdwell, Col. Allen Birdwell's grandson (by his son George Preston Birdwell) was the first president of Stephen F. Austin State Teachers College (later changed to University) in Nacogdoches. On the mezzanine, in the Student Center, there, is a large portrait of him, with the caption underneath, as the first president. Very impressive indeed. His grandfather would have been proud. They treat visitors kindly, at the University. Possibly, because of the prestige they carried, the letters from John Calhoun Birdwell, son of the Col. Allen B., during the Civil War, are housed there, in the East Texas Research Center. Copies of all 60 pages, of the letters are available for the cost of printing and mailing. In those letters, from Camp Hope (changed to Camp Nelson) in AR. he speaks of my great grandfather's death and burial there while he, himself, was on the forced icy march to Helena. in 1862. The detailed account is remarkable, of many of those who served with him, from Rusk and Nacogdoches, and were among the 1500 who died at Camp Hope- Nelson. . There are letters from his wife, also, and how it was , in Rusk, while he was gone. He enlisted with my great grandfather, (his first cousin's husband), Oscar Bell., and John C's younger brother, Billy (who died in the Chicago prison, after the AR Post battle. John C. escaped, to return to his company, and finally back home to his family, and the tanning business. A Memorial Cemetery was built near there, to honor those 1500 who died at Camp Hope-Nelson, buried without identification. They would like very much to be able to identify those bones, dug up from the fields of the campsite, and brought to the Cemetery for proper burial and honor. They want service records also, for these men who served there. I have sent copies of all of the letters John Calhoun Birdwell wrote while there, identifying, so many of them, and they were grateful. The letters stay on file there, (along with my Oscar Bell's service papers) , for anyone who wishes to read them, to find their own family members, and know how it was, there, at that time. Thank you for listening, and I hope that it may benefit some one out there who is looking for their soldier. Sincerely, Lovey Rhodes Smitham

    05/11/2002 08:55:52
    1. Re: Reunion
    2. Pete and Rose Birdwell
    3. --=======601F454B======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-2DF837E; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lou and all, I believe that Aggie Birdwell is in charge of the reunion. I don't know who our hosts are going to be this year, maybe she can tell you and you pass it on to us?? TTFN Rose At 02:51 AM 5/11/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Rose, who is in charge of the reunion? I ask because our ancestor, Col. >Allen Birdwell who came to Texas around 1845 or so, built a log cabin >that has received some attention from historical societies and was given >an historical marker. It was bought and moved to Henderson (I >think) but I don't know who owns it now. My cousin and I tried to see >it a few years ago and were soundly kicked off the property. Though we >have intended to try again, we've not been back, but I think it's an >official historical site and we (the reunion group) should be able to gain >access. Let me know whom to contact to see if a visit is of interest , >or if I can provide further information. I do have some documentation, >but it's not at hand at the moment. > >Lou > >At 04:25 PM 5/8/02 -0400, you wrote: >>--=======B946A39======= >>Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-4F3776B0; >>charset=us-ascii; format=flowed >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >> >>Hey All, I've been out of town on a family medical problem for 3 weeks, and >>am just getting into ALL the email in my inbox, so will answer questions as >>I get to them. >>Bobbye, the reunion info is on >>Birdtracks http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~birdtracks/ >>Go to Articles, and it is at the top of the page. >>Hope that this helps. >>TTFN >>Rose >> >>--=======B946A39======= >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; >>x-avg-checked=avg-ok-4F3776B0 >>Content-Disposition: inline >> >> >>--- >>Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >>Version: 6.0.350 / Virus Database: 196 - Release Date: 4/17/2002 >> >>--=======B946A39=======-- > > > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.360 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 5/7/2002 --=======601F454B======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-2DF837E Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.360 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 5/7/2002 --=======601F454B=======--

    05/11/2002 06:35:33
    1. Re: Reunion
    2. Lou Parris
    3. Rose, who is in charge of the reunion? I ask because our ancestor, Col. Allen Birdwell who came to Texas around 1845 or so, built a log cabin that has received some attention from historical societies and was given an historical marker. It was bought and moved to Henderson (I think) but I don't know who owns it now. My cousin and I tried to see it a few years ago and were soundly kicked off the property. Though we have intended to try again, we've not been back, but I think it's an official historical site and we (the reunion group) should be able to gain access. Let me know whom to contact to see if a visit is of interest , or if I can provide further information. I do have some documentation, but it's not at hand at the moment. Lou At 04:25 PM 5/8/02 -0400, you wrote: >--=======B946A39======= >Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-4F3776B0; charset=us-ascii; >format=flowed >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >Hey All, I've been out of town on a family medical problem for 3 weeks, and >am just getting into ALL the email in my inbox, so will answer questions as >I get to them. >Bobbye, the reunion info is on >Birdtracks http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~birdtracks/ >Go to Articles, and it is at the top of the page. >Hope that this helps. >TTFN >Rose > >--=======B946A39======= >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; >x-avg-checked=avg-ok-4F3776B0 >Content-Disposition: inline > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.350 / Virus Database: 196 - Release Date: 4/17/2002 > >--=======B946A39=======--

    05/10/2002 08:51:19