Hi I'm rather new to this BIRD list. Also to researching this family. I have a 40 year old family tree my brother did for school with my Father's help. Both my brother and Dad are gone and I can't find another family member to help me decipher the poor, faded handwriting. It might be BRED, BIRD or a list of other possibilities. With all the conversations about BIRD families, I was hoping some one could point me in the correct direction to get further information on my Mary Ann Bird, parents names, siblings, place of birth, date of birth, etc. Mary Ann BIRD would be my GGGrandmother on Dad's on his paternal, maternal side???? What I have is that Mary Ann xxxx married my GGGF Edward B. OLDER. No marriage date. Edward B. OLDER was born in Dover, Kent, England. I had been told the name may have been HOLDER and the "H" was dropped when they moved to VA. Their children were born, starting in 1834/1835 in England. Someone on an internet listing said she is Mary Ann BIRD, was born about 1806, her father is A. BIRD and her mother is J. BIRD. They referred me to a relative of their's who doesn't know where he got the info. The only census listing I have for Edward B and Mary Ann OLDER is at age 44 for both of them, in Kanawha Co. VA/WV in 1850. They lived and died in the Poca District of Kanawha Co. on Sissionville Road. The 1850 and 1860 (they were both 55 years) census indicate they were both born in England, as well as their children. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks, Norma