On Fri, 3 Apr 1998 21:46:56 EST Meowtalker <[email protected]> writes: >In a message dated 98-04-03 10:43:15 EST, you write: > ><< andrew Bird that was the son of John bird > of Oyster Bay, Nausau Co. NY is not decended from the Thomas Bird of >VA > that is the relative or ancester of the westover Birds. I did the > research my self on the NY Birds and it is factual. How ever there >is a > chance, actually a very good chance that they are related in England >as i > believe they both came from the london area >> > > >Ray & Judy > >Do you have any information about your John Bird? Any idea what what >time >period you're talking about for your John? The reason I ask is that >my >husband is descended from the Thomas leBird line, brother of Wm. of >Westover's >ancestor. > >This is confusing to explain, but I'll try in case you can make a >connection. >I do have more information on our line. PLEASE let me know if you can >make >any connection. >Nancy Bozeman Byrd > >Our leBird line began with Hugo leBird/leBrid and I'll skip several >generations to get to the point. However, Hugo is the earliest Bird >we've >found, c1075. Skip forward to: >Henry leBird m. Ann Phelkin and had issue: > Thomas leBird, b. c1570 m. Alyce Palin > John leBird, b. c1570 m. Elizabeth Burgh > Robert Bird, b. c1570 m. Elizabeth Holland > Hugh leBird, no info > Roger leBird, no info > Anne leBird, no info > Elizabeth leBird, no info > Mary leBird, no info > Katherine, no info (Mary (above) and Katherine may be the same) > >I will follow here with issue of Thomas, John, and Robert leBird > >Thomas leBird, m. Alyce Palin, had issue: > Thomas Bird, b. c1600, m. Elizabeth Bird, d/o John & Eliz leBird, >had issue: > John Bird, no info > William Bird, b. c1619, m. Hannah Grendon, had issue: > Elizabeth leBird > Thomas Bird, b. c1655, m. Mary nln, had issue: > Elizabeth Bird > Tabitha Bird > Mary Bird > Thomas Bird > William Bird, b. c1675, m. unknown, had issue: > James Bird, no info > John Bird, no info > Barnabus/Barnabee Bird, no info > William Bird, b. c1710, m. Ann Bloomfield, had issue: > Jesse Bird > Nedham Bird > Joel Bird > William Bird > Susannah Bird, m. William Outlaw > Mary Ann Bird, m. William Shaw > Jonas Bird, b. c1735, m. Mary nln, had issue: > William Bird, m. Faitha Parker > Wiley Bird, m. Edith Newbern > Mary Ann Bird, m. Joshua Louis Gay > unknown Daughter, m. Jacob Daughtry > Joel Bird, m. Mary Newbern > Penelope Bird, m. George Williamson > Louvinia Bird, m. George Browning > Jonas Bird, Jr., m. Rebecca Turner, (this is my >husb. gg- >gfather) > >John leBird, b. c1570, m. Elizabeth Burgh, had issue: > William leBird, no info > John leBird, no info > Henry leBird, no info > Anne leBird, no info > Elizabeth leBird, m. Thomas Bird, (1st cousin - s/o Thomas and Alyce >leBird) > >Robert Bird, b c1570, m. Elizabeth Holland, had issue: > John Bird, m. Elizabeth Bine, had issue: > Thomas Bird, m. Elizabeth Bud, had issue: > John Bird, m. Grace Stegge, had issue: > William Byrd I of Westover, m. Maria Horsmanden Meowtalker (is this your real name HEHE) Concerning the time periods of these birds let me diagram slightly how they go. andrew bird that married Magdelena Jonasson born about 1702 Rariton Somerset Co. NJ His father is Andrew Byrd born 1673 Oyster Bay Nausau Co. Long Island New york married Catherine Covert abyt 1701 at hell gate Neck, Newtown, Queens co. Long island New york and his father is Andrew Bird who was born 1651 and was of Nausau Co. Long Island New york. He married Hannah dimend abt 1670 in Suffolk Co. Long island New York, and died after 1694 of newtown Queens Co. NY. and he is the son of John Bird born about 1628-31 of Nausau Co. long lsland New york, and died aft 1676 of Huntington Nausau Co. New york I do not at this time have a wife for him nor is his parentage proven, however i am of the appinion with no evidence other than place and time that he is the son of Thomas Bird born about 1593 of London England and married Mary Belden died 10 aug 1662 in farmington hartford co. Conn. There are some things which should be understood concerning Long island and they are 1. most of the settlers there came from 4 or 5 places in conn or RI and Hartford Conn is one of them. 2. the english settlers early came from Mass and RI and then down to Conn and then to Island- the Frence- Dutch- swedes came from PHILLY and New amsterdam up, as this bird family name is english i reason that they came down from Conn and mass. Sincerely RAY _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]