Looking for Fred BIRD, who married Mira SUTHERLAND before 1917. While in Teheran Persia (Iran), Fred Bird married my Aunt Mira. He ws a medical missionary and political science professor there - American Univ? - and she was a missionary nurse. Returned to U.S. after 1917 and last known became full Professor at Columbia University. I am trying to find his daughter, Jean Bird ABRAM, born in Iran, or his granddaughter, Sarah Abram, b. 1946. At 03:16 PM 04/04/98 -0500, you wrote: > >On Fri, 3 Apr 1998 21:46:56 EST Meowtalker <[email protected]> writes: >>In a message dated 98-04-03 10:43:15 EST, you write: >> >><< andrew Bird that was the son of John bird >> of Oyster Bay, Nausau Co. NY is not decended from the Thomas Bird of >>VA >> that is the relative or ancester of the westover Birds. I did the >> research my self on the NY Birds and it is factual. How ever there >>is a >> chance, actually a very good chance that they are related in England >>as i >> believe they both came from the london area >> >> >> >>Ray & Judy >> >>Do you have any information about your John Bird? Any idea what what >>time >>period you're talking about for your John? The reason I ask is that >>my >>husband is descended from the Thomas leBird line, brother of Wm. of >>Westover's >>ancestor. >> >>This is confusing to explain, but I'll try in case you can make a >>connection. >>I do have more information on our line. PLEASE let me know if you can >>make >>any connection. >>Nancy Bozeman Byrd >> >>Our leBird line began with Hugo leBird/leBrid and I'll skip several >>generations to get to the point. However, Hugo is the earliest Bird >>we've >>found, c1075. Skip forward to: >>Henry leBird m. Ann Phelkin and had issue: >> Thomas leBird, b. c1570 m. Alyce Palin >> John leBird, b. c1570 m. Elizabeth Burgh >> Robert Bird, b. c1570 m. Elizabeth Holland >> Hugh leBird, no info >> Roger leBird, no info >> Anne leBird, no info >> Elizabeth leBird, no info >> Mary leBird, no info >> Katherine, no info (Mary (above) and Katherine may be the same) >> >>I will follow here with issue of Thomas, John, and Robert leBird >> >>Thomas leBird, m. Alyce Palin, had issue: >> Thomas Bird, b. c1600, m. Elizabeth Bird, d/o John & Eliz leBird, >>had issue: >> John Bird, no info >> William Bird, b. c1619, m. Hannah Grendon, had issue: >> Elizabeth leBird >> Thomas Bird, b. c1655, m. Mary nln, had issue: >> Elizabeth Bird >> Tabitha Bird >> Mary Bird >> Thomas Bird >> William Bird, b. c1675, m. unknown, had issue: >> James Bird, no info >> John Bird, no info >> Barnabus/Barnabee Bird, no info >> William Bird, b. c1710, m. Ann Bloomfield, had issue: >> Jesse Bird >> Nedham Bird >> Joel Bird >> William Bird >> Susannah Bird, m. William Outlaw >> Mary Ann Bird, m. William Shaw >> Jonas Bird, b. c1735, m. Mary nln, had issue: >> William Bird, m. Faitha Parker >> Wiley Bird, m. Edith Newbern >> Mary Ann Bird, m. Joshua Louis Gay >> unknown Daughter, m. Jacob Daughtry >> Joel Bird, m. Mary Newbern >> Penelope Bird, m. George Williamson >> Louvinia Bird, m. George Browning >> Jonas Bird, Jr., m. Rebecca Turner, (this is my >>husb. gg- >>gfather) >> >>John leBird, b. c1570, m. Elizabeth Burgh, had issue: >> William leBird, no info >> John leBird, no info >> Henry leBird, no info >> Anne leBird, no info >> Elizabeth leBird, m. Thomas Bird, (1st cousin - s/o Thomas and Alyce >>leBird) >> >>Robert Bird, b c1570, m. Elizabeth Holland, had issue: >> John Bird, m. Elizabeth Bine, had issue: >> Thomas Bird, m. Elizabeth Bud, had issue: >> John Bird, m. Grace Stegge, had issue: >> William Byrd I of Westover, m. Maria Horsmanden > >Meowtalker (is this your real name HEHE) > >Concerning the time periods of these birds let me diagram slightly how >they go. >andrew bird that married Magdelena Jonasson born about 1702 Rariton >Somerset Co. NJ His father is >Andrew Byrd born 1673 Oyster Bay Nausau Co. Long Island New york married >Catherine Covert abyt 1701 at hell gate Neck, Newtown, Queens co. Long >island New york and his father is >Andrew Bird who was born 1651 and was of Nausau Co. Long Island New york. >He married Hannah dimend abt 1670 in Suffolk Co. Long island New York, >and died after 1694 of newtown Queens Co. NY. and he is the son of >John Bird born about 1628-31 of Nausau Co. long lsland New york, and >died aft 1676 of Huntington Nausau Co. New york I do not at this time >have a wife for him nor is his parentage proven, however i am of the >appinion with no evidence other than place and time that he is the son of > >Thomas Bird born about 1593 of London England and married Mary Belden >died 10 aug 1662 in farmington hartford co. Conn. > >There are some things which should be understood concerning Long island >and they are >1. most of the settlers there came from 4 or 5 places in conn or RI and >Hartford Conn is one of them. >2. the english settlers early came from Mass and RI and then down to Conn >and then to Island- the Frence- Dutch- swedes came from PHILLY and New >amsterdam up, as this bird family name is english i reason that they came >down from Conn and mass. >Sincerely >RAY > > > >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] >