For a while now I've been going with the assumption that Elisha Bird, b abt 1685, married Catherine Ringo 1716, was the son of Andrew Bird of Newtown, Long Island, NY, simply because I've seen it from so many researchers. Does anyone have any proof of this? Without starting a war, it seems plausable that he was not Andrew's son. My reasons: Elisha did not have a son, grandson (or any other descendant) named Andrew. Andrew's other children - Andrew Jr, Thomas,Sarah, Mary and George - all named a son Andrew, and there was at least one Andrew in all the following generations. Also, Andrew Jr. and Thomas named other sons for their brothers - they each had a Thomas and a George, but no Elisha. None of Elisha's sons or grandsons are Thomas or George. Andrew Sr. and his sons lived in Somerset Co and were members of the Raritan Dutch Church; Elisha lived in Hanover Twp, Morris Co, and had two of his children baptised in the New York Dutch Church, none in Raritan. There were other Bird families in colonial New Jersey, most notably the family (Joseph and Jeremiah Bird, both born abt 1680) that lived in the Elizabethtown area; so just because Elisha lived in NJ at the time isn't enough to claim he's Andrew's son. In a post last year, Bill DeCoursey mentioned a James Bird living in Newtown at the same time as Andrew. Perhaps he is Elisha's father. Can anyone clear this up for me? Judy Judy Jamieson Pisano jupisano@hotmail.com http://www.geocities.com/~jupisano Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com