In a message dated 10/07/2000 5:00:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, BIRD-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << The family consists of a widow Esther Bird, b. 1799 in New York, and sons William, James R., and Jeremiah, all born in New York. There is also what appears to be a widowed daughter-in-law, Elizabeth, with a daughter Julia Bird. I was never able to find a spouse for Esther. Recently I came across a marriage listed on the familysearch web site for Charles Marsh Bird and Esther Romaine, 25 Dec 1796, New York City. >> Judy, You have Esther married before she was born. Do you have the right dates listed? Barbara