The following is what I have on SOME Abraham Birds. Please let me know if there are any corrections. The sources for the family group sheet I have on Abraham Bird and Rachel Ziegler/Siegler were taken from Shenandoah Co., VA Will Book P, Page 315, Shenandoah Co., VA Marriage Book 1772-1850, Fayette Co., KY Will Book E, Pabe 149, and Sumner Co., TN Deed Book, page 539: Abraham Bird's will was dated 11 Aug 1808 and proved 11 Jan 1830. Children: Capt. Abraham Bird, m. 31 May 1781 in Shenandoah Co., VA to Catherine Frye or Mary Jones (I don't know why there are two different names here.) Capt. Mark Bird, m. Sarah Gordon Capt. George Bird, b. 1763, d. 1826 m. Hannah Allen 25 Jan 1788 in same Co. Hannah was d/o Reubin Allen, Jr. & Lydia Moore. Two of their children were Mark Bird and Lydia Catherine Bird who m. James Wells Conn. Mark Bird of Bird's Nest, Commonwealth's Atorney, Representative of Shenandoah Co., VA, Hardy & Warren Counties, VA, Judge of 18th VA Judicial District. Magdalene Bird, m. Reubin Allen Elizabeth Bird, m. Thomas Jones Mary Bird Catherine Bird, m. 26 Mar 1789 in Shenandoah Co., VA to John Thomas Margaret Bird m. 29 Aug 1795 to Joseph Hawkins in same co. Additional info states Abraham was in Shenandoah Co., VA during Rev. War, member of House of Burgesses, security for Jacob Holeman in 1782 (Does anyone know which Jacob Holeman was?) Bought property on Bledsoe's Creek in Sumner Co., TN 19 Dec 1804 from James Byers/Byens. This FGS states that this Abraham Bird was the son of Andrew Bird who was the son of Abraham Bird of Calvert Co., MD. While I'm on these Shenandoah Co., VA Birds, I will give additional info. Andrew Bird, III, b. 1754, d. 1838, m. Cynthia Ann Moore 3 Dec 1829 in Shan. Co., VA. He was the son of Andrew Bird, II (or Jr.) and Mary Hamilton. Cynthia was the daughter of Charles L. Moore. Children: Mary Bird, b. 8 Jan 1778 Elizabeth Bird, b. 12 June 1779 John Bird, b. 4 May 1781 Catherine Bird, b. 20 Jan 1783 Phoebe Bird, b. 4 Feb 1785 Ann Bird, b. 4 Apr 1787 Abraham Bird, b. 10 Sept 1789, d. 14 May 1862, m. Rebecca Samuels Sarah Bird, b. 9 Dec 1791 Andrew Bird, b. 2 Apr 1795 Ruth Bird, b. 10 Apr 1797 Thomas Bird, b. 11 Mar 1800 These marriage records were from "Settlers by the Long Grey Trail" and the info was taken from an old Family Bible of Capt. Andrew Bird. Marriages from Shen. Co., VA Marriage Book 1772-1850. The same marriage book listed Andrew Bird m. Mary Holker 14 Mar 1796. Andrew Byrd, Sr., d. 1799, m. Mary Hamilton who d. 23 Oct 1784. Children: Capt. Andrew Bird, Jr., b. 30 nov 1754, d. 22 June 1823 (or 1838) m. Ann (?) William Bird, b. 22 May 1758 Jjohn Bird Abraham Bird, b. 1 Mar 1761 Mary Catherine Bird, b. 1 June 1756 Isaac Bird, b. 4 Feb 1763 On 24 March 1783, Deed of sale from Andrew Byrd, Sr. and wife Mary to Abram Byrd. 24 May 1779, Andrew Bird took oath of a captain in the militia of Rockingham Co., VA. Deed info taken from Rockinham Co., VA Deed Book. Also in this group of FGS's is one on a Jacob Bird who m. Catherine Burner 14 Jan 1826 in Rockingham Co., VA, which was taken from Rockingham Co., VA Marriage Records. John Bird, d. before 10 Mar 1834, m. Mary Cauffman, d/o George Cauffman, Sr. and Christina (?). Shenandoah Co., VA Will of George Cauffman, Will Bk. S, pg. 166. John Byrd, will pvd. 8 Feb 1830, Shenandoah Co., VA, m. Catherine (?) and had a daughter, Catherine who m. George Will. Shen. Co., VA Will Bk. P, pg 319. Valentine Bird, m. 29 Sept 1829 in Augusta Co., VA to Nancy Cheatham by Rev. Francis McFarland. Valentine Bird m. 20 April 1840 in Bath Co., VA to Hesthen McCarty. A Shenandoah Co., VA Will of Andrew Byrd, Will Bk. K, pg. 257, mentions brothers: John, Jacob, Henry and Peter Bryd. Andrew's will was proven June 1817 and mentions wife, Solina. Abram Bird m. 31 May 1781 in Shen. Co., VA to Mary Jones. One Abraham Bird with wife, Mary, served in War of 1812, Capt. Ford's Co. KY Militia. Bounty Land Warrant #12076-80-50 and 39692-80-55. This was taken from Shen. Co., VA Marriage Records and War of 1812 Pensioners. Rockingham Co., VA Deed Book shows Abraham Bird and wife, Catherine Deed of sale on 24 Nov. 1778 to John Ruddle. Also stapled to this batch of FGS's was one on John Bird who died 1754-1756 in Bath Co., VA m. a Dean, children were John Byrd, Jr. who m. a Hamilton, and Sarah Byrd b. 1743. Annals of Bath Co., VA. "John Byrd, a brother-in-law to John and William Dean, was killed by Indians two years after his purchase on Jackson's River in 1754. Of the wife and six children who were carried away, John, Jr., is the only one we know to have returned. The family were trying to escape from Fort Dinwiddie. The son became so Indianized that it was quite a while before he could reconcile himself to the ways of his own people. He was a favorite with the red men, and made at least one attempt to go back to them. His wife was a Hamilton. There were seven children, but Andrew H., whose wife was Elizabeth Capito, was the only son to stay in Bath. He was twice its sherrif. A sister two years older than John, Jr. remained with the Indians. Another sister was Sarah, born in 1743. She does not seem to have been carried away, and chose John Dean as guardian. Sorry, didn't mean to be so long-winded, but thought some of this might help someone. I believe I copied most of this info from the library in Knoxville, TN. Glenda

Dear Glenda, Thank you for the information, and THANK YOU for the source references. I'm finding lots of conflicting information regarding the men who have the same given names. The only way we can sort it is by going to the source--the original source. I have to read and think about your page of data, but in the meanwhile, where does the marriage of Mark Bird to Sarah Gordon come from? Might she have been a Jordan? Which Mark was he? Where did they live? Ms. Marty Hiatt, CGRS "Document what you find, listen to what you are told, and especially, love and respect your work." John Morris CGRS is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license after periodic evaluations by the Board. ----- Original Message ----- From: Glenda M. Todd <gtodd@edge.net> To: <BIRD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:32 PM Subject: [BIRD-L] Abraham Bird > The following is what I have on SOME Abraham Birds. Please let > me know if there are any corrections. > The sources for the family group sheet I have on Abraham Bird and > Rachel Ziegler/Siegler were taken from Shenandoah Co., VA Will > Book P, Page 315, Shenandoah Co., VA Marriage Book 1772-1850, > Fayette Co., KY Will Book E, Pabe 149, and Sumner Co., TN Deed > Book, page 539: > Abraham Bird's will was dated 11 Aug 1808 and proved 11 Jan 1830. > Children: Capt. Abraham Bird, m. 31 May 1781 in Shenandoah Co., > VA to Catherine Frye or Mary Jones (I don't know why there are > two different names here.) > Capt. Mark Bird, m. Sarah Gordon > Capt. George Bird, b. 1763, d. 1826 m. Hannah Allen 25 Jan 1788 > in same Co. Hannah was d/o Reubin Allen, Jr. & Lydia Moore. Two > of their children were Mark Bird and Lydia Catherine Bird who m. > James Wells Conn. Mark Bird of Bird's Nest, Commonwealth's > Atorney, Representative of Shenandoah Co., VA, Hardy & Warren > Counties, VA, Judge of 18th VA Judicial District. > Magdalene Bird, m. Reubin Allen > Elizabeth Bird, m. Thomas Jones > Mary Bird > Catherine Bird, m. 26 Mar 1789 in Shenandoah Co., VA to John Thomas > Margaret Bird m. 29 Aug 1795 to Joseph Hawkins in same co. > Additional info states Abraham was in Shenandoah Co., VA during > Rev. War, member of House of Burgesses, security for Jacob > Holeman in 1782 (Does anyone know which Jacob Holeman was?) > Bought property on Bledsoe's Creek in Sumner Co., TN 19 Dec 1804 > from James Byers/Byens. This FGS states that this Abraham Bird was > the son of Andrew Bird who was the son of Abraham Bird of Calvert > Co., MD. > > While I'm on these Shenandoah Co., VA Birds, I will give additional > info. > > Andrew Bird, III, b. 1754, d. 1838, m. Cynthia Ann Moore 3 Dec > 1829 in Shan. Co., VA. He was the son of Andrew Bird, II (or Jr.) > and Mary Hamilton. Cynthia was the daughter of Charles L. Moore. > Children: > Mary Bird, b. 8 Jan 1778 > Elizabeth Bird, b. 12 June 1779 > John Bird, b. 4 May 1781 > Catherine Bird, b. 20 Jan 1783 > Phoebe Bird, b. 4 Feb 1785 > Ann Bird, b. 4 Apr 1787 > Abraham Bird, b. 10 Sept 1789, d. 14 May 1862, m. Rebecca Samuels > Sarah Bird, b. 9 Dec 1791 > Andrew Bird, b. 2 Apr 1795 > Ruth Bird, b. 10 Apr 1797 > Thomas Bird, b. 11 Mar 1800 > These marriage records were from "Settlers by the Long Grey Trail" > and the info was taken from an old Family Bible of Capt. Andrew Bird. > Marriages from Shen. Co., VA Marriage Book 1772-1850. > The same marriage book listed Andrew Bird m. Mary Holker 14 Mar > 1796. > Andrew Byrd, Sr., d. 1799, m. Mary Hamilton who d. 23 Oct 1784. > Children: > Capt. Andrew Bird, Jr., b. 30 nov 1754, d. 22 June 1823 (or 1838) > m. Ann (?) > William Bird, b. 22 May 1758 > Jjohn Bird > Abraham Bird, b. 1 Mar 1761 > Mary Catherine Bird, b. 1 June 1756 > Isaac Bird, b. 4 Feb 1763 > On 24 March 1783, Deed of sale from Andrew Byrd, Sr. and wife > Mary to Abram Byrd. 24 May 1779, Andrew Bird took oath of a > captain in the militia of Rockingham Co., VA. Deed info taken from > Rockinham Co., VA Deed Book. > > Also in this group of FGS's is one on a Jacob Bird who m. Catherine > Burner 14 Jan 1826 in Rockingham Co., VA, which was taken from > Rockingham Co., VA Marriage Records. > > John Bird, d. before 10 Mar 1834, m. Mary Cauffman, d/o George > Cauffman, Sr. and Christina (?). Shenandoah Co., VA Will of > George Cauffman, Will Bk. S, pg. 166. > > John Byrd, will pvd. 8 Feb 1830, Shenandoah Co., VA, m. Catherine (?) > and had a daughter, Catherine who m. George Will. Shen. Co., VA > Will Bk. P, pg 319. > > Valentine Bird, m. 29 Sept 1829 in Augusta Co., VA to Nancy > Cheatham by Rev. Francis McFarland. > > Valentine Bird m. 20 April 1840 in Bath Co., VA to Hesthen McCarty. > > A Shenandoah Co., VA Will of Andrew Byrd, Will Bk. K, pg. 257, > mentions brothers: John, Jacob, Henry and Peter Bryd. Andrew's > will was proven June 1817 and mentions wife, Solina. > > Abram Bird m. 31 May 1781 in Shen. Co., VA to Mary Jones. One > Abraham Bird with wife, Mary, served in War of 1812, Capt. Ford's > Co. KY Militia. Bounty Land Warrant #12076-80-50 and > 39692-80-55. This was taken from Shen. Co., VA Marriage Records > and War of 1812 Pensioners. > > Rockingham Co., VA Deed Book shows Abraham Bird and wife, > Catherine Deed of sale on 24 Nov. 1778 to John Ruddle. > > Also stapled to this batch of FGS's was one on John Bird who died > 1754-1756 in Bath Co., VA m. a Dean, children were John Byrd, Jr. > who m. a Hamilton, and Sarah Byrd b. 1743. Annals of Bath Co., VA. > "John Byrd, a brother-in-law to John and William Dean, was killed > by Indians two years after his purchase on Jackson's River in 1754. > Of the wife and six children who were carried away, John, Jr., is > the only one we know to have returned. The family were trying to > escape from Fort Dinwiddie. The son became so Indianized that it > was quite a while before he could reconcile himself to the ways of his > own people. He was a favorite with the red men, and made at least > one attempt to go back to them. His wife was a Hamilton. There were > seven children, but Andrew H., whose wife was Elizabeth Capito, > was the only son to stay in Bath. He was twice its sherrif. A sister > two years older than John, Jr. remained with the Indians. Another > sister was Sarah, born in 1743. She does not seem to have been > carried away, and chose John Dean as guardian. > > Sorry, didn't mean to be so long-winded, but thought some of this > might help someone. I believe I copied most of this info from the > library in Knoxville, TN. > > Glenda > > ______________________________