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Is anyone researching Teackle Bird of 1800 and 1810 SC?

Does anyone know anything about the following: Daniel Bird married Mary Ann Pitts 1851 DeKalb Co. GA Ann Bird married James Clark 1851 DeKalb Co. GA Martha Ann Bird married George Robinson 1845 DeKalb Co. GA

Thanks to everyone for sharing. Barbara

<<Hi all... I have been researching a number of microfilms, searching for my BIRDconnection... Please let me know if anyone connects with these BIRDS or the family lines listed.>> Barbara Thanks for sharing your information. Barbara Vestal Byrd

James Stone was talking about what you don't get off a pedigree chart. We have had an interesting situation in our family which makes me wonder what future generations would think in reading the raw statistics. (I'll use aliases since the persons involved are still living.) My son, John, married a girl, Jane, who had been married before but had no children. It was John's first marriage. John and Jane had two children, Mary and Sue. John and Jane divorced. Jane remarried her first husband, Ralph, (who had been orally and physically abusive) thinking he had changed. He hadn't. After five months, she sued for divorce. In the mean time, she was pregnant with Ralph's baby. Amy was going to college and trying to raise her first two children, so when her sister (who had never had children of her own after years and years of marriage) wanted to adopt the baby, Amy said yes. Ralph didn't want to be responsible for the baby, so he signed papers letting the sister adopt. When the baby was born, Amy put my son's last name on the birth certificate even though it wasn't his baby. Shortly thereafter, the sister and her husband adopted the baby and changed it's last name to their last name. Now. . . . if you were a genealogist researching this family, would you think the second husband (my son) had gotten his former wife, Amy, pregnant and that caused the divorce of Ralph and Amy (since it is his last name on the birth certificate)? Also, the baby is half-brother to the sisters, Mary and Sue, but if someone didn't dig deeply, they might never know that the baby was also their "cousin." What a can of worms! And the icing on the cake is, Amy is Mormon. I hope her family makes plenty of notes to help future generations and Byrd genealogists know the situations and the kinships. I know I am. Pat

Looking for information on Susannah Burd. Don't know parents or place of birth. Susannah Burd Born 2 Apr 1827. Died 28 Aug 1882. Buried in Putneyville, PA Cemetery she married: 13 Apr 1846 in, near Greensburg, Westmorland Co.,Pa. John Frederick Gearhart. Born 2 Sep 1825 in Worthville, little sandy creek, Jefferson county,pa. Died 24 Mar 1892 in Putneyville. buried in Putneyville Cemetery In an old Gearhart history: they said all they knew about Susannah was that they called her "Yankee" This couple are my gr gr grandparents. I have seen Susannah referred to as Eliza in other researchers work, but on her tombstone it is recorded as Susannah. I have pictures of the tombstones. ANY HELP WOULD BE WONDERFUL. THANK YOU CONNIE

Does anyone have a book on the ancestors of Robert Montgomery Bird?? >From what I gather, he is a descendent of Thomas & Sarah (Empson) Bird. Thomas & Sarah had a son John, who married a Margaret Steelman. They had a son John(b.1737)...then he had a son John and this John had Robert Montgomery Bird. Did Robert write a book on the Birds or is there one out there on his ancestry? John Peters

Hi All, Regarding "What really counts," I have a few words to share. I have been doing genealogy research seriously for the past five years or so, and have found a wealth of information in my Bird line, as many of you have I am sure. Is it just me? When I find a ggggggggg-family member's children listed, I only pay close attention to the lines of the children who bore offspring. Although that line of reasoning will get one from "point A" (the gggggg-kin) to "poing B" (the one doing the research), a significant amount of information is lost. And since most of us are interested in putting flesh and blood on these kin, it's a crime. Case in point. I was born, grew up, got married, had three kids, got divorced. Kids are Rachel, Cory and Joshua, born in '82, 85, and 88. We live in Utah. Knowing that, akin to what you would get with a pedigree chart, how much do you know about me and the kids? None of the kids have children yet. Old line reasoning says follow the ones that will. Another pedigree chart segment ican then be completed. Talk about DRY! Kind of like shredded wheat with no sugar or milk. What's lost? Remember me being divorced? The Ex had the kids with her on vacation out of state. While they were all in the car, a motor home began crossing into the Ex's lane way down the highway. As the motor home approached closer, it didn't get out of the 'wrong' lane. The Ex pulled off the road on the right as far as possible--without going into a major ditch--and stopped. Everyone in the passenger car had seatbelts on. The motor home driver didn't wake up, and therefore never corrected. The motor home drove over the driver's half of the car and kept going through the ditch and across an open field for several hundred yards. Ex and Rachel killed. Rachel was 14 and will never have kids. Josh was 8 and in the front passenger seat. He never lost consciousness and remembers every single detail...right down to what his mother sounded like when she got hit. Big brother Cory--11--was in the back passenger's seat. Josh, after a quick triage (triage at 8 years old?) knew his mom and sister were gone. He saw his brother bleeding frorm a head injury, so he crawled over the back seat and checked his brother for a heartbeat. He then began to exit the top of the car (ripped open in the wreck) when he was lifted out. Because his big sister taught him, Joshua was able to tell the paramedics my phone number (two states away), and I heard from the hospital right away and gave permission to treat the survivors. While his brother rode in the back of the rescue vehicle, Josh got to sit up front with the driver. He got to push the button that turned the stop lights red so the emergency vehicles to pass. As a result of getting 'instant full-time custody' I was no longer able to travel, as my job required. The compasionate organization I work for was able to place me in acceptable employment at the same rate of pay. But it was out of state and we had to move. After the move I started hearing about all Josh did in the wreckm it takes awhile for all the details to come out of all those involved. And Josh began to ask, "Why don't the kids at school believe me when I tell them what I did?" I could only answer, "Because it is so far out of their normal world they cannot fathom it." I nominated Josh for varous awards. He received a Youth Hall of Fame award for Courage. He received the Washington State Patrol Citizen Award. And he received an award from the ER hospital, fire department paramedics, and local law enforcement...the last reads like the Medal of Honor. The pedigree chart would just say that I had three kids, one died, two boys lived on and (I suppose) had kids and there was a move from Utah to Idaho. But that would not tell you about Josh's courage. It would not tell you about Big Sister teaching Little Brother dad's phone number. And it wouldn't explain the move. Cory is now 14 and on the football team, being recovered enough from the brain injury that he is no longer on a 'special' program. His broken eye orbit and broken rib have healed, but the gaping hole left in the absence of mom and sis will likely always be somewhat an open sore. Josh--physical injury free, now 12, is doing better in school. I hope none of you get to experience what Josh experienced. Both boys have been hospitalized for the affects of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder over the past couple years. Another detail...Josh wants to drive an Ambulance when he grows up. You don't get that kind of information off a pedigree chart. James

--part1_e2.a06990a.26fb7fe3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To all my genealogy friends and those who just do not want to lose family memories: I'm on the mailing list of Sandi Gorin, professional genealogist and guru for those of us who are researching Kentucky. Usually she sends tips for our researching, but the following is a "tip" which I think even non-genealogists would appreciate. Pat --part1_e2.a06990a.26fb7fe3_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <KYRESEARCH-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-za02.mx.aol.com (rly-za02.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.98]) by air-za02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.3) with ESMTP; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 08:03:13 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by rly-za02.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 08:02:22 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e8LC20129678; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 05:02:00 -0700 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 05:02:00 -0700 X-Original-Sender: sgorin@glasgow-ky.com Thu Sep 21 05:01:59 2000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20000921070219.007cf790@mail.glasgow-ky.com> X-Sender: sgorin@mail.glasgow-ky.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 07:02:19 -0500 Old-To: KYRESEARCH@rootsweb.com From: Sandi Gorin <sgorin@glasgow-ky.com> Subject: TIP #309 - WHAT REALLY COUNTS? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id e8LC1xG29648 Resent-Message-ID: <S6gmwD.A.ePH.3ify5@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: KYRESEARCH-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: KYRESEARCH-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <KYRESEARCH-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/308 X-Loop: KYRESEARCH-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: KYRESEARCH-L-request@rootsweb.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by lists5.rootsweb.com id e8LC20129678 TIP #309 - WHAT REALLY COUNTS? I hope you will let me ramble a bit for today's tip; it is really a re-run of an earlier tip, but has been brought to mind again during this past week. As I grow older, I find myself wishing how much I had asked more questions when family members were still with us. My family is dwindling down to a precious few and along with the feeling of loss of their leaving, I think of how much I didn't know about them. Oh, I have all the dates of birth and death, where and when they were married and all the children. But what do I know about them as a person? What precious memories are gone forever? In all our efforts to get every vital statistic right so we can join the DAR, SAR, Colonial Dames - whatever, have we forgotten that we are dealing with real people? People that lived, loved, hurt, felt pride, worked hard, people who mattered whether they were descended from some famous king or queen, president or outlaw. Or have we become so determined to get every date right, and every pedigree box filled in that we've forgotten what they did, who they were and what legacy they left us? I think sometimes we need to go back to square one and start treating our ancestors with a little more respect!!=20 Of course, we all have family that are so illusive that the only proof we have of their existence is that we are here! But, lets think back just a couple or more generations and be thankful we at least have the names on the ones for whom we can find no biographical information. My daughter was recently given a family history book created by Thomas Kincaide, the famous 'Painter of Lights" that I like so much. In looking through it, I was deeply impressed about the type of data asked for. It had the regular family history information of course, but other questions that stirred up memories in my heart were there too. What was your grandma's favorite recipe? Where did they live, in what kind of a house? What songs were popular then, who were their best friends? What hobbies did they have, where did they go to church, what was their favorite teacher's names, etc. It got me really thinking again on how much I didn't know about my own family! On living family members, of whom there are less than one hand's worth in counting, I can go back and ask. But my precious grandparents and great-grandparents - unless my mother remembers, I will never know. In 1971, I became interested in genealogy, really before I could spell the word! I made a long distance call to my aunt in Tucson who I knew was tracing her family and my uncles and asked her what to do. She gave me a=20= =BD hour lesson in family tree searching that has served me down to the present time. She stressed people first, statistics later. She mailed me an audio tape that she had from my grandfather who has been dead for almost 20 years. She had asked him questions such as the above and he was older and got flustered and couldn't remember. So she left him her tape recorder. Lo and behold, he got messing with the tape and mailed it to her a couple of months later. She made me a copy and it is so cherished. He really "got into it" and not only told stories of his childhood, but sang old coal mining songs from Southern Illinois, told about the politics of the day, illnesses, triumphs, hard times on the farm - an hour of tape covering 80 years of his life. I cherish it! Then, about 10 years ago, I asked my Mom to give me her life story and she made 2 tapes for me (which need to be updated). Her hands were getting arthritic and it was hard for her to write, but she was quite at home with a tape recorder and told of her life on the farm, growing up in a tiny town in central Illinois, the hardships, the joys, my birth, the birth and death of my brother. My precious Dad left us in 1996, and he couldn't write too well, but he was a talker. I never got him to make me a tape, but with my memories and those of his only living sister, we have reconstructed most of his life of growing up prior to the Great Depression, World War II and onward.=20 Now, I am doing the same for my two daughters. I have the "luxury" of doing it on the computer. Whenever I have a few minutes, rare it seems, I plunk out another chapter of my life. Many times years later in my life story, my memory will be jogged of something, and I will add an "interlude" - a chapter of missed memories. I have 20 chapters done now - the girls are both getting a hard copy and a computer disk. Fancy memories? Not really. I don't descend from anyone famous, a lot of our family must have hid out when something important happened. But I can tell them of growing up in a small town and knowing all of my classmates from 1st grade on, of lonliness, of friends, of events that happened during those years such as the launching of Sputnik and our fears to go out on the playground thinking a Russian satellite was photographing us. Of elections, the Korean and Viet Nam War. My times of feeling like a klutz playing girl's basketball or trying to dance, of meeting their daddy, their births.=20 I have also kept a diary for both girls since the day they were born. Plus, I kept my own diary which meant 3 diary entries a day. When they were old enough, I gave the girls their own diaries and begged them to keep them up --which they are. They know what happened every day of their lives less maybe 5 days over the many years. And, being smaltzy, I made them great big scrapbooks - all the cards they have ever received, pieces of the wrapping paper from their gifts, birth announcements, shower presents, lists of toys they like to play with. And pictures - about 30 albums full over the years - friends, events, places. Since we've lived in 5 states, there is something there from every house we've lived in, every town.=20 Now, it's their problem on how to find room for all their "memories", but it has worked. They actively keep records of their lives; one married now and one serious. Statistically, for some patriotic organization, this would mean nothing. But for me, for them, it IS their life! So, along with being able to quote their ancestors back many generations, they know that great-aunt Lizzie was a Bohemian and the life the party; another aunt was a great poker player; Uncle Frederick invented the space bar on the typewriter, Rev. Marcellus was thrown into the brig during the Civil War for being on the wrong side of the fence in the Civil War; their grandmother was a great horsewoman (on the farm, never professionally); their grandpa never knew his father who was killed accidentally when he was three years old; and the adventures of their mother taking flying lessons. They know when they were sick and of what, who got into a little girl's squabble with who and how they did on their report cards. It is a walk back in time with their family and they both love it. So, after many paragraphs, what I'm trying to say is ... record it! We need those dates and places, but we need to know the people who match those dates and places. We are what they were in so many ways, the same genes run in our body, their blood flows in our veins. Their illnesses might effect us later, their reactions to situations many time are shown in how we respond. When they made mistakes, we can learn from their errors and hopefully, not repeat them. When they succeeded, we can not only take pride, but strive to match their goals and exceed them. When great grandpa slaved over a horse drawn plow and at night stared at the stars; our children might be on a space ship soaring between them. Where they had discord in marriage or family, we can strive to be on the alert to see what we can do to not have the same. =20 If you can get the family members to make a tape, write it down, or dictate it to you ... save it, cherish it for it is a shadow of you and of your descendants. (c) Copyright 21 September 2000, Sandra K. Gorin. All Rights Reserved. sgorin@glasgow-ky.com Col. 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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------91D60FA4A692E63CF2B38085 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all... I have been researching a number of microfilms, searching for my BIRDconnection... Please let me know if anyone connects with these BIRDS or the family lines listed. My website: soli.inav.net/~shepherd will give more information on the Reverend Bird KITTERMAN I am searching for. His mother may be Sarah (Sally) Bird who married John Kitterman or Mary Catherine Whitacer Poteet who married Zachariah Kitterman or --- a totally different set of parents - he may have been taken the name KITTERMAN...My grandfather stated his Bird's mother was: "a woman from Kentucky whose maiden name was BIRD" and his father was Zachariah KITTERMAN. Three birthdates currently show for Reverend Bird KITTERMAN - 1826, 1829 and 1839. If anyone sees something that may connect, please let me know. Thanks to all... barbara k shepherd bshep@inav.net --------------91D60FA4A692E63CF2B38085 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="BIRD INORMATION.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="BIRD INORMATION.txt" MICROFILM # 899440 *Film has multiple parts 1831-1864 Marriage Records Vol 2 Grant Co., Ind. Page 5 Benjamin Bird Eliza Monroe 9/8/1852 (License issued) Page 5 Garrett Bird Rebecca Hardisty 8/12/1841 Page 5 James W. Bird Caroline Williams 1/20/1850 Page 38 Marshall Robert Eleanor Bird 8/9/1838 Page 65 Nancy L. Bird James Young 8/19/1857 Page 42 Hosea Nicholas Eliza Jane Bird 1/8/1857 Page 50 Michael Roberts Sarah Bird 1/8/1846 MICROFILM # 899440 Newspaper Items from Marion Chronicle (Grant Co. Area) Page 22 Mr. E. L. Byrd Miss Lydia M. James Married on the 5th inst (Feb 1873) at the residence of H. James by Reverend F.T. Simpson, Mr. E. L. Byrd and Miss Lydia M. Jones MICROFILM # 899440 1817-1832 Marriage Register Harrison Co., Ind. (Section follows an Index of Marriages. #'s on Index do NOT coincide with page #'s listed for these marriages Page 17 Jacob Infield Elizabeth Erwin By consent of T. Infield Certificate filed The marriage ceremony between Jacob Infield and Elizabeth Erwin was duly solemnized by me April 8, 1819 Edward McCawn, M.G. Page 22 John Bird Elizabeth Pratter Affidavit filed Sept. 9th I do certify that I joined the within named couple together on the 9th Sept. 1819 Thomas Faith J.P. H.C. Page 172 James Bird, Jr. Polly Ann Mozer Sept. 21, 1831 Lawful Age Consent of father I do hereby certify that I did solemnize the rites of matrimony between J. Bird and Polly Mozer on the 22nd of Sept. 1831 from the face of license issued from the Clerk of Harrison County on the 21st Sept. 1831. Given under my hand this 22nd day of Sept., 1831. George Arnold, J. P. 849944 (cont.) Page 134 David Shields Eliza Onion Dec. 30th 1828 Affidavit filed Jan 1st 1829 Agreeable to your order I executed the within Bennet Jacobs M.G. Page 117 Joel Onion Elenor Shields July 2nd 1827 Lawful Age Consent of father I do certify that I solemnized the rites of matrimony between Joiel Onion and Eleanor Shields July 4th 1827 George Marshall Page 116 John Trobough Christena Bird May 28th 1827 Affidavit filed Page. 85 Zachariah Kitterman Mary Bird Feb 18, 1825 Lawful Age Joined in matrimony the within named Zachariah Kitterman and Mary Bird this 20th day of Feb. 1825 Frederick Lisley Page 68 Isaac Genterman Mary M. Winner Dec 12, 1823 Lawful Age Consent of father This is to certify that I have joined together the within couple in matrimony 19th day of Dec. 1823 Edward Mc Cown 089944 Marriage Register (cont) Page 58 Patrick Bird Mary Poteal Jan. 29, 1823 Lawful Age Affidavit filed I do certify that I joined together in matrimony the within named on the 30th day of Feb. 1823 Gillis McRean J.P. Page 3 Perry G. Barnes Sally Onion Feb. 2, 1818 Verbal Consent Solemnized by me this 5th Feb. 1818 Joshua Farnsley, J.P.H.C. MICROFILM # 899444 Marriage Records 1817-1832 Hoosier Elm Chapter DAR Corydon, Indiana Page 14 E. Goodwin Mary Poteet Jan. 2, 1819 Lawful Age Joined the within named in matrimony Jan 3, 1819 Joseph McMahan, J.P.H.C. Page 19 Mason Bird Catharine Mullins May 15th 1819 This certifies that I have joined in Matrimony the within named on the 16th of May, 1819 Andrew Breman, M.G. (*Note: No indication of affidavit filed or if of lawful age...) Page 30 Henry Mason Ann Thompson June 7th 1820 Lawful Age Executed the above on the 6th day of June 1820 Thomas Kendall, J.P. Page 38 Horatio W. Huntington Christina Danner March 2nd 1821 Lawful A This is to certify that on the fourth day of March 1821 the subscriber having received license to join together in matrimony Horatio W. Huntington and Christina Danner have according to law celebrated the rights of matrimony between the above named couple John W. Jones. Page 85 Zachariah Kitterman Mary Bird Feb 18th 1825 Lawful Age Joined in matrimony the win named Zachariah Kitterman and Mary Bird this 20th day of Feb. 1825 Frederick Lisley Page 58 Patrick Bird Mary Poteat Affidavit filed Jan 29, 1823 Affidavit Returned Lawful age I do certify I have joined together in matrimony the within named on the 30th day of February 1823 Gilles McBeal (?), S.A. (?) (Hard to read) MICROFILM #849940 Vol. # 1 Jay County, Indiana 1866-1883 Page 52 Harvey Bowen Mary A. Bird 4 Jan 1872 John Rhoads, J. P. MICROFILM #0547083 People Receiving Bibles - Montgomery County, N. C. 1851 Pt. 5 of Film: Page 1 Henry Bird MICROFILM # 0928263 Harrison Legions (Military -Civil War) Last part of film Page 9 - Scott Lifeguards Robert Sharp Page 10 - Scott Life Guards Jacob Shreck Page 11 - Jordan Guards Salas Goutreman James Venner Peter A. Blunk Page 12 - Harrison Tigers Harrison Conrad Thomas J. Conrad Wm. Conrad William J. Conrad Page 13 - Harrison Co. Border Scouts Thomas H. Kitterman Page 14- Harrison Co. Border Scouts Thomas H. Kitterman Page 17- Harrison Guards Daniel Conrad Page 19 - Jackson Guards Wm. Conrad MICROFILM# 0928263 7th Item on Roll Marriage Affidavits & Certificates Harrison County, Ind. 1808-1865 Page 84 Thompson Brown a. for both by James Mason Margaret Forree 3/8/1848 Page 84 4/14/1848 a. (for both) by James Mason William Justice Nancy Mason Page 62 5/11/1842 Almaresctchin H. Crisp - - - -- - Eliza Bird a. by Zacharriah Kitterman Page 89 9/10/1849 John I. Crisp Sarah Jane Highfill a. by Nathaniel Marsh Page 112 4/12/1855 Silas Conterman? Mary Eliza Cromwell c. of f. Joseph Cromwell Page 46 6/13/1837 James Kitterman c. of f. John Kitterman Sarah Case a. by John Case Page 47 9/18/1837 Henry Kitterman Sarah Miller a. William Milton for both Page 72 1/8/1845 John Kitterman Mary E. Shreck a. by George Shreck for both Page 117 9/3/1856 Wm. Rice Kitterman ----- Louisa Catharin Row c. of p. Samuel Rowe, Mary Row Page 20 5/28/1827 John Trobough ------ Christena Bird c. of f. John Troubough by Joseph Bird Page. 80 2/12/1847 John Jones c. of m. Mary Jones Mary Ann Bird ----- Page. 81 3/30/1847 Vincent Marsh a. by William Coldren for both Margaret E. Crisp Page. 81 4/14/1847 Mires S. Evans a. by Robert Black for both Nancy C. Guntreman Page 81 4/27/1847 James Marsh - - - - - Nancy Jones c. of f. Joseph Marsh Page 83 12/1/1847 Jesse Marsh ----- Mahala Ann Crisp c. of f. Anthony J. Crisp Page 83 1/17/1848 George Shanks - - - - Rachel Hawkins a. by James Green Page 110 11/28/1854 Vincent Marsh - - - - Martha E. Crisp c. of f. A.J. Crisp Page. 73 4/15/1845 Jacob Zenor a. by Allen Gonterman Louisa Gonterman a. by Rosena Gonterman Page. 78 5/11/1846 Joshua Onion a. by William Barnes for both Julia Ann Freeman Page. 127 William Smith a. by James Kitterman Clarinda Catherine Kitterman c. of f. Zachariah Kitterman by James K. Page 133 10/13/1859 Winchester Smith a. by Frederick Cotner for both Sarah A. Kitterman 0928263 (cont) Page. 7 9/19/1819 John Bird a. by groom as told by p Elizabeth Prater " ; also by Thomas Mattocks Page 22 12/24/1828 Joseph Cromwell - - - Sarah Black c. of m. Mary Black by a. by James Rogers Page 114 11/24/1855 George K. Williar a. for both by Robert Brashear Sarah Jane Mason Page 123 Nathan Zimmerman Mary Martha Mason 0928263 Section 5 of Film - (Early Records of Harrison Co., Indiana) 1820 Harrison County, Indiana - (Harrison & Exceter Townships) Col: 1= Age Under 10; Col. 2= Age 10-16; Col. 3 =Age 16-26; Col. 4 =Age 26-45; Col. 5 =Age Over 45 Page 1 Moses Black Harrison Township Males: 2-0-0-1-0 Females: 4-0-0-1-0 Page 4 David Inlow (Exceter Twnp) Males: 2-1-0-1-0 Females: 2-0-0-1-0 Page 4 Henry Inlow (Exceter Twnsp) Males: 0-0-0-0-1 Females: 2-0-0-1-0 Page 4 Henry Inlow, Jr. (Exceter Twnsp) Male: 0-0-1-0-0 Female: 0-0-1-0-0 Page 4 Jesse Inlow (Exceter Twnsp) Males: 3-0-0-1-0 Females: 3-2-0-0-0 Page 6 Charles Onion (Exceter Twnsp) Males: 0-0-0-0-1 Females: 0-0-0-1-1 Page 6 William Onion (Exceter Twnsp) Males: 1-1-0-1-0 Females: 3-1-0-1-0 Harrison County, Ind. 2ND item on Roll School Enumerations 1846 Twsp 6 SR3E Page 7 Henry Thompson Children: (F)Henrietta age 16 (F)Martha age 11 (F)Celia age 8 MICROFILM #1404750 Volume A2 Corydon, Indiana Marriage Records Record# 146 2/10/1862 Samuel Bird Mary E. Bell a. by Eliaja Bell a. by Eliaja Bell Record# 139 18th of Dec. 1812 John Enlow Jenny Paisley Remarks: Of Lawful Age Returns: Joined Together the within couple in marriage on Dec. 24th, 1812 by me. James Love Record# 358 8th May 1816 Jacob Vanadall Elizabeth Infield Remarks: Verbal Consent Returns: Indiana Territory, Harrison County to wit: I Dennis Pennington one of the Justice of the Peace for County I do certify that I did on the 9th of May 1816 joined the couple as man and wife given under my hand and seal this 20th of May 1816 Dennis Pennington, J.P.H.C. Record# 477 Abraham Evans Elizabeth Venner May 6, 1818 Verbal Consent Returns: Returned blank Record# 534 James Renno Mariah Wood Proven by the oath of John W. Smith Dec. 24 This is to certify that I celebrated the rights of matrimony between James Renno and Mariah Wood this 25th of Nov. 1818 Nathan Veatch J.P.H.C. (Dates typed as per copy) Record 536 E. Goodwin Mary Poteet Jan 2 1819 Lawful Age Joined the within named in matrimony Jan 8, 1819 Joseph McMahan, J.P.H.C. Record 603 John Bird Elizabeth Pratter Affidavit filed Sep. 9 I do certify that I joined the within named couple together on the 9th Sept. 1819 Thomas Faith J.P.H.C. Record 672 Henry Mason Ann Thompson June 7th 1820 Lawful Age Executed the above on the 6th day of June 1820 Thomas Kendall, J.P. Record 730 Horatio W. Huntington Christina Danner March 2nd 1821 Lawful A This is to certify that on the fourth day of March 1821 the subscriber having received license to join together in matrimony Horatio W. Huntington and Christina Danner have according to law celebrated the rights of matrimony between the above named couple John W. Jones Record 1008 Zachariah Kitterman Mary Bird Feb 18th 1825 Lawful Age Joined in matrimony the win named Zachariah Kitterman and Mary Bird this 20th day of Feb. 1825 Frederick Lisley Record 1137 John Wiseman Hannah Vener Feb. 7th 1827 Lawful Age This is to certify that I performed the rites of matrimony between John Wiseman and Hannah Vener on the 8th day of Feb. 1827 Edward McCawn Record 1181 John Trobough Christena Bird May 28th 1827 Affidavit Filed Record 1200 Nathan Shield Mary Onion Aug. 14th 1827 Lawful Age Agreeable to your order I executed the within by me Bennet Jacobs, M.G Record 1075 Thomas Infield Sarah Cromwell March 8th 1830 Lawful Age Celebrated by me March 11, 1830 John W. Jones MICROFILM #0459383 Index to Harrison County Marriages Book 1809-1817 and part of Volume H 1832-1846 THESE ARE ORIGINAL WRITTEN INFORMATION 0459383 "Day Book" Poor film... Page 2 15th record from top John Bird ? ? ? Part 2 1809-1817 Page??? 2nd from Bottom of Page Henry Enlow # 48 Jonathan Wright Elizabeth Bittman # 127 John Enlow Jenny Paisely # 288 Dorinda Stark William Scott #386 Philip Brecelius Rebecca Enlow Feb 1817 # 399 James Hupp Hssa Bird March 8, 1817 # 408 Elizabeth Redman William McCarty June 28, 1817 MICROFILM 0459383 (Cont) Harrison County Marriages 11-1887 to 4-1832 # 550 + 2 pages ---?-Bird Catherine Mullins May 18, 1819 # 120 (From Top left) Patrick Bird Mary Poteat Affidavit filed Jan 29, 1823/Affidavit Returned Lawful age I do certify I have joined together in matrimony the within named on the 30th day of February 1823 Gilles McBeal, S.A. (* hard to read) #140 ..??... 1823 Isaac Gunterman Mary M. Venner Lawful Age By consent of father This is to certify that I have joined together the within couple in matrimony 16th day of Dec. 1823 Edira McCowan (*hard to read) #170 Sept 18, 1825 Zachariah Kitterman Mary Bird (*Sept 18 Date hard to make out...) Lawful Age I joined in matrimony the within named Zachariah Kitterman and Mary Bird this 20th day of Feb 1825 Frederick Lesley J.P. #338 * listed on succeeding page as well James Bird Jr. Polly Ann Mozer or Mozen(?) Sept 21, 1831 By consent of parent I do by certify that I did solemnize the - ? - between James Bird and Polly Ann Moser in the -? - --------------91D60FA4A692E63CF2B38085--

Hi Researchers, Guess I'm ready to post my family again. Hope someone can connect with these. 1. Thomas Bird b. abt. 1600 in Broxton, Chesire, London d. abt 1623 m. Elizabeth Bird 9-18-1617 b. about 1600 2. William Bird b. about 1620 in London d. bef. 9-29-1672 m. Hannah Grendon Jennings b. abt 1630 d. aft. 1-25-1678/1679 3. Thomas Bird b. abt 1650 in Va. d. 1687 in Surry, Va m. Mary ???? (Last name unknown, but speculations are that she may have been a Native American) 4. William Bird, Sr. b. abt 1672 in Surry, Va. d. bef. 8-25-1748 m. ???? Davis 5. William Bird, Jr. b. abt 1710 in Nansemond Co. Va. m. Ann Bloomfield on 11-25-1731 6. Jonas Bird, Sr. b. abt. 1740 in Bertie Co., N.C. m. Mary ???? (Last name unknown, but speculations are that she may have been a Native American) I am interested in knowing other researchers who might have done some work on Jonas Bird, Sr. Larry E. Bird birdnest7@juno.com Larry <>< ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

I have tried for several years to sort out those pesky Brown and Beall family alliances. I have Beall and Brown in my tree that I cannot identify. If anyone can help with an ID on any of the following it would be very helpful to me. These families had family ties in Nelson and Washington County, Ky. Possibly in Bullitt County also. John Beall, Sr. born ca. 1750, married Sarah Unknown and had 3 children that I know of: Cibby, John, Jr; and Mary/Polly Beall. The children married Owens, Stroder and Bennett (my line) respectively, In Washington County, Ky. Can anyone ID John Sr. or Sarah? Samuel Brown born ca. 1750-1760 married Jannett/Jane Camron/Cameron and had children: Archibald C. and John Brown, in Nelson County, Ky. An ID on Samuel would be great. Edward Bird witnessed a Washington County, Ky. land sale between Benjamin Brown and Walter Beale/Beall in Dec. 1794. I think Edward may have been related to one or both of these men. An ID on Benjamin or Walter would be very helpful. They may well be related to these other Bealls or Browns. Edward Bird married Nancy Ann Cambron. Perhaps the Beall, Brown connection is through the Cambron family. The connection could also be through one of the other families such as Brothers, Taylor, Barlow or Sapp. There is a chance that my Bealls and Browns may be related to Frances Beall m. Anthony Brown of early Nelson County, Ky. Or, does anyone know who my Bealls and Browns are? Thanks, Gene Bird _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

Most records I've read state Ann BIRD; daughter of James and Sarah SMITH BIRD married Christian DASHER, Jr. My question is how can Ann Bird d/o James and Sarah BIRD who was born in 1807 have married Christian DASHER on 31 January 1801? Or was Ann BIRD who married Christian DASHER, Jr. the daughter of Israel Robeson and Anna STAFFORD BIRD and not the daughter of James Robeson BIRD, son of Israel and Anna Stafford BIRD? Important dates: Ann Bird b: 07 Oct. 1807 d: 20 September 1843 (d/o James 1772-1819 & Sarah BIRD) Ann Bird b: 02 Sep. 1778 d: 02 June 1852 (d/o Israel 1738-1802 & Anna BIRD "as yet proven") If these birth dates are correct it was impossible for Ann BIRD, d/o James Robeson & Sarah BIRD to marry Christian DASHER in 1801. If these dates are incorrect please let me know. Does anyone know if the information below refers to the will of Israel BIRD 1738-1802 or one of his descendant? The following is information from a website posting: "The will of Israel Bird in the Screven Co., Ga library states that he had five named sons and three unnamed daughters.Does anyone know the names of the three daughters." If anyone lives near the library in Screven County I would really appreciate a copy of this will of Israel BIRD. I am extremely interested in the names of the "five named sons". I'd also appreciate any additional information on Ann BIRD. Maureen in CA

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I am looking for any information out there on the following people; WHITE, Simeon b] 1781 (?) His son; Peter WHITE b] 1807 md] Jane FIVEASH b] 1822 Peter and Jane's children: [all born Appling County] Susan Delaney WHITE b] 1840 Allen VAn WHITE b] 1835 Simeon L. WHITE b] 1836 Sarah E. WHITE b] abt 1839 John WHITE b] 1838 Dennis A. WHITE b] 1842 Louis WHITE b] 1844 Malcomb Nelson WHITE b] 1845 Catherine E. WHITE b] 1847 Mary ANn WHITE b] 1848 George W. WHITE b] 1853 Teler M. WHITE b] 1856 Henry Peter WHITE b] 1857 Thomas Minor WHITE b] 1859 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----

>Bill DeCoursey wrote: > > In all due respect, my late father-in-law, David W. BIRD (1901-1996) >who was only four generations removed from his g-g-grandparents, John >and Susanna Margaretha Winterode, is probably rolling over in his grave >at the statement that "the Birds were essentially from Germany". > > In spite of my oft repeated and persistant insistence that he was >German, he informed me several times during the 50 plus years that I >knew him that he was told by his father, who had been told by his father >before him, that his BIRDs of Bath and Highland County, VA were of >Scotch Irish and English heritage; but that his great grandfather, David >Bird (1781-1864), and his g-g-grandfather, John Bird (1729-1819) had >taken German brides. May I suggest another possible interpretation. My original BIRD ancestor, Henry BIRD of Rye, NY came from a line of BIRDs who according to family tradition were of English origin but had settled in Holland (or possibly Germany) for a time before immigrating to America. It's all rather vague because Henry's parents died on the trip over, leaving him and one or two brothers orphans circa 1740-1750. (The fate of the brother or brothers is unknown.) If your BIRD family followed the same path on their way to America, that could explain the confusion. -- Jeff Hecht, jhecht@world.std.com

"GREY FOX" <anyta@alltel.net> wrote on 7 Sep 2000 in BIRD-D Digest V00 #111 in regard to some of the descendants of John and Susanne (Wintrow) Bird > > Subject: [BIRD-L] The Bird Family > Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:52:17 -0700 > From: "GREY FOX" <anyta@alltel.net> > To: BIRD-L@rootsweb.com > > > The Birds were essentially from Germany. They settled in great numbers in > the same area of Virginia as the English Byrds. This is the actual meaning > of the different spelling, contrary to the popular belief that the spelling > changed with the Civil War. However, the Birds and Byrds intermarried to > the point that they spelled their name either way. > The Birds are from Mill Gap and Monterey of Highland County, Virginia. > Highland County was created from a portion of Bath County in 1870. ---- > Dear "Grey Fox", In all due respect, my late father-in-law, David W. BIRD (1901-1996) who was only four generations removed from his g-g-grandparents, John and Susanna Margaretha Winterode, is probably rolling over in his grave at the statement that "the Birds were essentially from Germany". In spite of my oft repeated and persistant insistence that he was German, he informed me several times during the 50 plus years that I knew him that he was told by his father, who had been told by his father before him, that his BIRDs of Bath and Highland County, VA were of Scotch Irish and English heritage; but that his great grandfather, David Bird (1781-1864), and his g-g-grandfather, John Bird (1729-1819) had taken German brides. I knew then, just from his stubbornness, that he had to be "German"; but now after 50 years of marriage to my BIRD wife, 45 years of which have been spent trying to ferret out her BIRD ancestors, this "meat head" of a son-in-law has come around to accept old Dave's claim to English ancestry for the Birds. Some of the confusion regarding a possible German heritage for John Bird might have originated from the oft repeated interpretation of Morton's History of Highland Co., VA first published in Monterey, VA in 1811, wherein Morton states on page 264 "Bird, John, D. at 90 while plowing - m. Susanna Wintrow of Germany" This simple statement says nothing about the heritage of our John Bird, but only addresses the nationality of his wife, Susanna Margaretha Wintrow, daughter of Johannes Caspar and Anna Margareta (STREP)WINTERODE of Bammantal, Germany and Frederick Co., MD, who was indeed German. It also is true that John's son, David BIRD married Elizabeth HULL, of German and English heritage; but none of this proves (or disproves) that John BIRD was German. More recently, circumstantial evidence, suggests that our John Bird (listed as John BIRT, a neighbor of Mounce BIRD on the 1784 tax list) was probably a brother to Mounce BIRD and a son of Lt. Andrew BIRD of Chester Co., PA and Shenandoah Co., VA, who is believed to have been born of English (and possibly Dutch) heritage in Somerset Co., NJ before migrating to Bucks Co and Chester Co., PA near Philadelphia where he (Andrew Bird) met and married his wife, Magdalena JONES or JONASSON, daughter of Mounce JONASSON and Ingaborg LYCON. Mounce JONASSON was a son of Jonas NILLSON a Swedish merchant at the Swedish Colony on Tinicum Island near Philadelphia. So, I suppose that we could say that the BIRDs were "Swedes" with as much confidence as saying that they were "German". Some sources also claim that the BIRDS were of French Huegenot origin and migrated first to Scotland and then to America. Take your pick! All that we really can say for certain is that the descendants of John BIRD are a mixture of several nationalities (English, German, Swede, Dutch, Scotch, Irish, and more.) all contributing various characteristics. On this much we can agree. I like the combination though. All that I can say is that I love the little BIRD who I married 50 years ago in November; regardless of her ancestral origin, whatever it may have been. My wife' BIRD lineage is as follows: 1) Andrew BIRD m. Magdalena JONES 2) John BIRD m. Susanna Margaretta WINTERODE 3) David H. BIRD m. Elizabeth HULL 4) David W. BIRD m. Martha RYDER / RIDER 5) Henry Francis BIRD m. Verona GILBERT 6) David William BIRD m. Treva HAYNES 7) Mertle Joyce BIRD m. 1950 William L. DECOURSEY Bill DeCoursey decoursey@earthlink.net