Subject: Re: [HAM] Re: HAMILTON-D Digest V99 #382/Thomas Bird Hamilton Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 11:55:20 -0600 From: Frank Mayberry <rambo1@oknet1.net> To: HAMILTON-L@rootsweb.com Hi, Alice! I have some Bird/Byrd's in my Hamilton's also. My ggrandpa Richard Bird/Byrd Hamilton oldest child of Joseph Hamilton, son of John, was born in Cabarrus Co., NC on Apr 15, 1793. He was married to Salina Bird/Byrd in burk Co., NC on June 10, 1831. They moved to McMinn Co., Tn., sometime prior to 1836 where seven of their nine children were born. Richard Bird b. Mar 20, 1832 at Old Fort, NC; John B. b. Jan 4, 1834 at Old Fort, NC; Joseph W. b. Jul 23, 1836, Englewood, Tn; James W. A. b. Jul 26, 1838; Englewood, Tn; Robert N. b. Dec 14, 1840; Englewood, Tn; Mary E b. Dec 10, 1844 Englewood; Albert L. b June 19, 1847 Englewood; Daniel W. b. Oct 3, 1849 Englewood, and Sarah Ann Hamilton b. Jun 21, 1852 at Englewood, Tn. Richard B. Hamilton is buried at Horntown Cemetery having died Dec 9, 1909 at Holdenville, Hughes Co., OK. His mother Salina Bird/Byrd (I have a picture of her) was buried near Englewood, Tn. Just wanted to add the above to your search for a possible link in your search. Thanks, Bye, Frank Mayberry in Muskogee, Oklahoma USA - Native America. Alice Gless wrote: > Do you have Thomas Bird Hamilton's Bird ancestry, if he had Bird ancestry? >

"The Deane Family" NEHGR 3:4 (Oct 1849), p. 387 states that Zipporah Deane, wife of Benjamin Deane, was the daughter of John Deane who married Hannah Bird, 21 Sep 1699 in Taunton, Massachusetts. However, I cannot find any other children of this couple. (They have no children born in Taunton) Does anyone know where this family resided? Were there any other children? Is there a documented source for this family? Thank you. I will gladly share any info I have found. Hal Bradley

My grandfather had a cousin to visit him that had dogs that came from Dick Byrd's dogs he used in his adventures to the Arctic. Granddads grandmother was Sarah(Sallie) Bird/Byrd. She married Jack?( we have a n open debate on this gentleman's name) Coleman, they had 4 children John, William, a daughter and a son. John died in the war, I presume the Civil War, the daughter died in her teens from a spider bite and the other son drown. My great grandfather William S. Coleman b. 1848 so I think he was the youngest since Sallie died 1850. This family group livied in Flat Creek, Bedford CO, TN As for the two spellings of Byrd, I was always told it was Bird but changed as the family was more educated. This is an interesting family.--Alicia

Letter to my late mother. 2037 Holmes Avenue Springfield, Illinois February 20, 1964 Dear Mrs. Hurlbutt: I always read the Hobby Column in "Together", especially the genealogy group, for that is my hobby. I have just put into the hands of a professional typist the manuscript of a family history I have been working on for years, for the final typing. My great-grandmother Springer was before her first marriage in St. Clair County, Illinois, Elizabeth Byrd, or Bird, born May 1, 1802 in Tennessee. Seven or eight years ago I found the probate record of a John Byrd at Belleville, the county seat of St. Clair County, and the name was spelled Byrd sometimes and sometimes Bird, and I know that before the Revolution spelling did not mean much even in literate families. We were always told that we belonged to the Byrds of Henrico County, Virginia; and our old History of Madison County, Illinois, published in 1882, said she was a daughter of John Byrd, of Alabama. Following up on that, I wrote a letter to the Historical Society of Alabama, about fifteen yeas ago, and asked about him; and got back a rather sarcastic letter in reply, saying some of the Virginia Byrds did come to Alabama, but much later, about 1840; and there were practically no white people in Alabama as early as 1802. We were living in Springfield at that time, and I had met the director of the Archives Building, Ernest East. He got the original mortality census for 1849, when she died in the cholera epidemic, and brought it to me, and the regular census for the same year, 1850, which gave the state of their nativity, and it said plainly she was born in Tennessee, not Alabama, so if her father went to Alabama, it was after she was born. The census for 1850 was the first one that gave the native state, anywhere in the United States. So I wrote to Nashville. >From the Archives of Tennessee I found four grants of land in 1788, 1790 and 1792, to John Byrd (1788), John Bird (1790) and John Byrd (1792) all in Green County, and obviously the same man, but he died in Greene County, and when I sent for his probate record, there was an Elizabeth, all right, but not married to either George Biggs or John Springer. So I suspect that that John Byrd (Bird) may have been my Elizabeth's grand-father, for many of the early settlers of St. Clair and Madison Counties came from Tennessee and Kentucky. The County Seat of Madison County, formed in 1812, is Edwardsville; Madison was once a part of St. Clair County. Does any of this ring a bell with you? If so, I may be able to give you some material on your Bird line, or put you in touch with someone who can. I know that my Elizabeth had sisters, Nancy, born in 1806, and Mary, born in 1808, and a brother, William, who had died by 1850; and there may have been a brother John, age unknown, who married as his second wife, Mrs. Mary Kinney, and had two daughters, Louisa and Sarah, and a son Cornelius Byrd, as named in his father's will, and Neil, as named in his mother's. A Methodist sister, /s/ (Miss) Jessie E. Springer, 2037 Holmes Avenue Springfield, Illinois 62074

Another letter to my late mother. Undated but would have been 1960's 43044 North 20th Street East Lancaster, Calif. 93534 Dear Mrs. Robert Hurlbutt I am writing concerning your name in the Surname Index 1964 edition. I am looking for information on Mary (Polly) Bird, born in Tennessee, in 1825. She had, it is believed, one sister, Bettie Bird Wilson, and two brothers, Albert and John. She married David Stillwater Gray 10 June 1842-41. They had seven children. she died 31 Dec. 1891. Enclosed is SASE . . . Sincerely, Mrs. Robert Granicy

Letter to my late mother, Lucile W. Hurlbutt, dated August 10, 1967: Dear Mrs. Hurlbutt, My son Sam is still unable to write as he has been kept in bed most of the time since wounded last January but he asks me to thank you for your throughtfulness. There seems to be no near relationship in our families. My father was born in cincinnati, Ohio. His father, Nicholas and Uncle Richard for whom he was named moved to Wichita, Kansas in the 1880's. My great Grandfather came to the States from Cork county, Ireland the town of Banby I believe. He had a brother that disappeared in the States and there could be a conection there. I am taking the liberty of sending your letter on to Gertrude Byrd Barnes, 730 W. Princess Anne Rd., Norfolk, Va 23517. she has studied the Bird & Byrd genealogy back a number of centuries and has been kind and thoughtful of Same. Thank you again for your kindness and good wishes, Sincerely, Richard E. Bird <can't find envelope it came in>

These are "possible" siblings of CYNTHIA BIRD.They are JESSE- JOHN- SARAH b.1814 m.DANIEL TAYLOR Jan 19,1835 in Washington Co,KY.Bondsman David Runnels. CYNTHIA b.abt 1813 m.ISAAC SAUNDERS/SANDERS NOV 16,1832 Isaac Saunders/Sanders marriage to Cynthia Ann Bird: This information found in Frankfort, Ky. State Archives: Marriage: Washington County, Kentucky Sanders,Isaac: Bond given 11-16-1832 to marry Cynthia Ann Bird, surety David Runnels. Book 2 page 378; consent filed 11-12-1832.Sarah Muncy his mother Jane Bird,mother of Cynthia also gave consent. Witnesses:David Runnels and John Sanders. JESSE and JANE BIRD found on 1840 Washington Co,KY census on page 106.ISAAC SANDERS also found on page 106. There is a JOHN BIRD and ISAAC SANDERS found on page 104 1840 Washington Co,KY census.DANIEL TAYLOR and MILTON TAYLOR on page 98 1840 Washington Co,KY. JANE BIRD,mother of CYNTHIA was born 1773 in North Carolina, according to the 1850 Indiana census.1850 JANE BIRD was living with daughter CYNTHIA and ISAAC SANDERS in Decatur Co,IN.She was 77 years old.JANE BIRD would have been in her early forties when SARAH and CYNTHIA were born,which makes us think there were more children. This family has been a real brick wall for us.We do not know Jane's maiden name or her Husbands first name.Do any of these names ring a bell with anyone.Willing to follow any clues.

Looking for information on the family of John L. BIRD, born around 1820-1830 possibly around Transylvania County, NC. Married Nancy CHAPMAN Thanks, Wayne

I am researching Mary Parthlia Bird. b. 3 March 1900 Hartshorne, Okla. d. 27 June 1937 Denton, Texas. Married: Lonnie Thomas Hilliard. I believe her parents were: William Bird (Chapman?) and Fannie Florence (Tucker?) Also seeking information about the "Bird Clan" of the Cherokee's. Thank you. Genevieve Hertel

Hi there. My name is Terry (Terrance Lee) Griffin. I'm new to the list. I don't know much about my family, but my Father was Albert Eugene Griffin, born in Etowah, Arkansas. His Mother was Nellie Byrd. Looking forward to hearing from more Byrds. Terry G.

Does anyone have additional information on the following Byrd and Downs family or know who this William, father of Benjamin Byrd was. Benjamin Byrd, b. 4 March 1757 Laurens, SC, d. 3 March 1831 Laurens, SC, m. Jane Downs, b. 6 July 1774 Old 96 Dist. SC, d. 7 March 1822 Laurens, SC, d/o Jonathon Downs and Sarah Gary. Benjamin was the son of William Byrd and (?). Children of Benjamin and Jane Downs Byrd: Leah Byrd, b. 22 Oct 1793, m. B.H. Allen Mary Byrd, b. 15 June 1795 Sarah Byrd, b. 9 Aug 1797, d. 1836, m. William Hill Jane Downs Byrd, g. 19 July 1800, d. 2 Jan 1875 Purnelly Byrd, b. 18 June 1803, d. 8 Jan 1875 in Laurens, SC William Downs Byrd, b. 19 Aug 1805, d. 31 March 1809 (There is something wrong with this as they state he married Eliza Barksdale but was b. 1805 and d. 1809???) George Byrd, b. 13 Oct 1808, d. 15 Jan 1879 in Laguna Beach, CA m. 22 March 1836 to Eugenia Carolina Kern. This information was found on WFT Vol #8, Ped. # 1383 and was submitted by George Frank. Is this Benjamin Byrd related to the Solomon Byrd who died in Pendleton Dist. SC about 1810? Glenda

Sallie Bird married J Coleman, I put J because my family has Jesse, Jack and Joshua as her husband's name. He was born 1818, died 1892 ? Buried Shook Cemetery, Bedford CO. TN Any information is welcome!!! I can't get past Sallie Byrd Coleman, she had 4 children #1 John nicknamed Jack, he died in the war I presume Civil war, #2 a son that drown washing clothes in creek, #3 a daughter that died in her teens from a spider bite and #4 William Samuel Coleman B. 1848 Flat Creek Bedford County TN. He married Sarah Boone, they moved to Parker county TX There Byrd kin here. Help I know I didn't come from outer space or did I? ---Alicia

Searching for proof that Donnan Byrd is the son of George Byrd, Jr. and Sarah Frierson. He is listed in the Byrd Family History written by Robert E. Byrd, along with his siblings. Verification of this is needed for DAR papers for a friend who is descended from Donnan. Thank you, Carolyn B. Henderson, Sherrod Byrd Descendant

My fellow Byrd cousins: A woman on the Greene Co TN, who probably didn't realize what she was offering, offerred to do lookups in a relatively new Cemetery Book for Greene Co TN. So of course, I asked for Byrds (no Choates are there)... Here are the results. I don't recognize anyone, but I hope this helps someone out there. My best, Janet Hunter ----Original Message----- From: Lcflcflcf@aol.com <mailto:Lcflcflcf@aol.com> [SMTP:Lcflcflcf@aol.com] <mailto:[SMTP:Lcflcflcf@aol.com]> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 5:13 PM To: TNGREENE-L@rootsweb.com <mailto:TNGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [TNGREENE-L] BIRD - BYRD >From "Greene County Cemeteries" - Buford Reynolds All BIRD unless noted. Solomon Lutheran Cemetery - Cove Creek: pg 386 David 09-08-1828 - 08-25-1875 (CW) w-Vina 02-25-1833 - 02-28-1897 d-Mary E 06-27-1854 - 12-28-1871 Joseph 03-10-1862 - 11-17-1885 E C 11-11-1837 - 01-30-1886 Junius Scott 12-22-1891 - no death date w-Dollie Park 05-08-1898 - 10-08-1950 Henry Phillip 02-14-1867 - 07-17-1942 w-Pernina Bowers 04-26-1870 - 09-01-1943 J T son of LG & Ethel 1921-1922 Virginia Lanell - no information Charlotte dau of Lester & Algavon 1934 only date Kennon 1950 only date Lester 11-12-1905 - 10-22-1968 Shiloh Cemetery: pg 371 Kirby L 08-19-1896 - 08-20-1952 w-Lockie Bible 12-17-1900 - no death date Salem at Lost Mountain: pg 367 ***BYRD*** Lula 1874-1953 River Hill EUB: pg 354 (831 marked graves, 200 unmarked) D S 01-23-1864 - 03-05-1949 w-Nettie Bowen 01-08-1871 - 10-23-1937 s-David A 1909-1912 Barbara J dau of Clifford & Josephine 1937 only date John Willis 12-28-1896 - no death date w-Della May 10-12-1900 - 08-22-1966 Oak Grove: pg 258 Alonzo Jacob 1878-1922 w-Lula Vann 1883-no death date s-Frederick F1922 only date Lorena Lois 11-15-1890 - 07-01-1971 Hermon Cemetery - Old Pard - On Middle Creek: pg 149 (23 legible, 200 unmarked) John 02-24-1812 - 12-02-1891 w-Susannah Click - 06-27-1816 - 07-30-1888 Hermon Methodist: pg 143 (418 marked, 100 unmarked) Callie M 02-07-1843 - 02-02-1917 Oliver C 01-18-1855 - 07-11-1911 w-Martha Bowman 08-09-1853 - 05-??-1913 Robt J 01-31-1862 - 11-21-1923 w-Martha L 02-11-1871 - 02-12-1913 s-Inf 1892-1893 David Ronny 1950 only date Fred 11-15-1907 - 04-12-1969 Charlie R BYRD 1881-1952 w-Sophia George BYRD 1887-1955 Green Lawn Memory Gardens: pg 131 Herman V 06-18-1910 - 05-13-1968 Leonidas Grant 07-01-1890 - 02-08-1969 Geo A 01-15-1892 - 10-04-1969 Ebenezer Cemetery: pg 110 (142 marked, 50+ unmarked) Lucy Mary (Bird or Bard) dau of CE & ME 10-27-1924 - 04-11-1954 Bethesda (Harrison's) Cemetery: pg 28 Matthias 03-06-1805 - 03-11-1875 w-Margaret 04-16-1809 - 11-02-1842 David 1784-1861 w-Mary 1786-1852 J B 12-23-1829 - 11-12-1904 w-Elizabeth 03-24-1841 - 04-02-1922 s-Inf 1861 s-Preston H 1874-1874 David A 11-06-1844 - 12-14-1910 (CW) w-Sarah E Broyles 12-06-1851 - 07-25-1941 Bessie C 1883-1888 Inf son of CM & CP 1902 Hugh 1862-1911 Earl Dwight 1900-1903 Kyle Harmon 1909-1910 W N 1848-1918 w-Hannah J 1850-1909 d-Nona died 07-27-18?? Henry A 1874-1958 w-Cora H 1879-19-- s-Carl E 1899 only date Arel Wm 1900-1942 w-Elsie Taylor 1904-19-- leslie

I recently ran across a few deeds from Mansfield Twp, Sussex/Warren Co, NJ, that link all these Birds together. It seems in 1818 Benjamin and Edward owed money to a Thomas Martin, so property in Mansfield Twp, then Sussex, now Warren Co, was auctioned off by the sherriff. After a few auctions and no buyers, Birtis Bird eventually bailed them out. Bitis later sold the land in 1833. There were other sales between the four. Here's my question - does anyone have any other info about these guys? They are probably all sons of Edward Bird of Beattystown (son of James Bird). I really want to know about Benjamin, because I have nothing else on him except a marriage date. Furman and Birtis moved to Michigan in the 1830's. Judy ===== Judy Jamieson Pisano jupisano@yahoo.com "The Bird Families of New Jersey" <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~birdnj> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

I have him on the 1850 Census of Pendleton Co., KY but by 1860 he is not present. Eloisa in 1845 was born in INdiana and Francis in 1848 was born in KY and died there. I really am most interested in What happened to Arthur (George?) 11 in the 1850 census but not found in 1860 Census. He is believed to have been in the civil war possibly captured. Columbus 19 in 1860 served in the KY Calvary and was captured in TN and was discharged from Rock Island, IL in 1865 with consumption. I don't know if he made it to KY or not. ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Amond your Birds of TN, do you be any chance have an Elizabeth Bird whose parents moved to Indiana before 1837? Elizabeth married Thomas Blair then, and she positively had to have parents, and come from somewhere! The census says she was born in PA, but since Tom's parents came from TN, maybe Elizabeths's did too. I know it's a stretch, but I've been looking for many years. Sue

The Edward and Mary Ann (Jennings)Bird family arrived in Victoria, British Columbia about1895. Not sure which coast they arrived at first. I have for the most part figured out the part of the family that stayed here in British Columbia. In both Edward and Mary Ann's obit two sons are mentioned living in New York. George b abt. 1874 and Douglas b abt. 1871. Years ago when I asked my grandparents to tell all, I was told that one of my great grandmothers brothers was a famous (Opera??) singer in the early 1900's in Chicago. Could be either one. I have reason to believe one of them did travel back to Victoria about 1904 for a visit. Does this ring a bell with anybody?? Many thanks! Michael Kaehn (was Köhn, should be Koehn, pronounced Kane) Victoria, BC Canada

Updated information: Still searching for help on my gggrandfather, William T. Bird, b. about 1845. He married Julia Sarah Hatton August 15, 1869 in Pope County, IL. They had two boys, ages 8 and 11, before William died at age 37 in 1882. Their mother had to post $100 bond Guardians Bond ( I guess so that she could keep them.) Didn't women have any rights in Illinois back then? The children were my ggrandfather, Walter W. Bird, b. November 23, 1873, and his older brother, Hal L. Bird, b. 1870, also of Pope County. Walter died in 1908 in Rose Bud, Pope County, IL, at the age of 35, leaving two young boys, himself. It seems that the male Bird side of my family tree usually didn't make it past the age of 40! Marla Moore

I didn't include her birth around 1820, she died 2 years after my gr grandfather was born in 1848 in Flat Creek, Bedford CO, TN.---Alicia