Larry, A quick Google search on the topic shows several viewpoints on recording a bigamous marriage. You might find the search interesting. List members, any suggestions for Larry? Sherri Bigamy Admin From: mailman-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mailman-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Leady Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 6:56 PM To: BIGAMY-admin@rootsweb.com Subject: how do I record my bigamist marriage? on ancestry.com it still shows as my wife Larry

Hi Everyone, I just found information that verified a family story that my grandfather was a bigamist. I received papers from the county prosecutor's office of an exact date, crime, sentencing and prison. I also found to short newspaper pieces about him as well. Ok, my question is how can I go about finding out who the other woman was without having an exact marriage date? Also, can anyone suggest where else I can look for information on this. This happened in Warren County NJ and his name was LEWIS WESLEY WATKINS from Elizabeth, NJ. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thank you! Sincerely, Wendy Watkins

Thank you Sherri!  I do have the name of a researcher who is familiar with the records. Now that I have narrowed down the time period of the infraction, she may have a better chance of finding the individual. Now that Moundsville is open for tours, I hope to go see my ancestors cell.  Is that weird (smile)? David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michel & Sherri Harmon" < miksher @ gmail .com> To: bigamy@ rootsweb .com Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 1:00:34 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [BIGAMY] Bigamy sentencing guidelines David, While I can't answer many of your questions I would start by checking the prison records for Moundsville . Sherri Bigamy Listmom ----- Original Message ----- From: < dpdevito @comcast.net> To: <BIGAMY@ rootsweb .com> Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 3:51 PM Subject: [BIGAMY] Bigamy sentencing guidelines Hello Bigamy Listserv ; Has anyone posted bigamy sentencing guidelines? Were these set by the state? Was this considered a state or federal crime? I have an ancestor who went from Ohio, to Kentucky, to Illinois, and supposedly spent time in Moundsville Prison (WV) for bigamy. Might this be because she/they crossed state lines? Any idea on how to find the sentencing? Might this be with the prison records ( Moundsville is now closed, but the records were sent to the state archives.) Thanks! David  To contact the administrator of this mailing list, send mail to BIGAMY-admin@ rootsweb .com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BIGAMY-request@ rootsweb .com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message  To contact the administrator of this mailing list, send mail to BIGAMY-admin@ rootsweb .com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BIGAMY-request@ rootsweb .com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Bigamy Listserv ; Has anyone posted bigamy sentencing guidelines? Were these set by the state? Was this considered a state or federal crime? I have an ancestor who went from Ohio, to Kentucky, to Illinois, and supposedly spent time in Moundsville Prison (WV) for bigamy. Might this be because she/they crossed state lines? Any idea on how to find the sentencing? Might this be with the prison records ( Moundsville is now closed, but the records were sent to the state archives.) Thanks! David

David, While I can't answer many of your questions I would start by checking the prison records for Moundsville. Sherri Bigamy Listmom ----- Original Message ----- From: <dpdevito@comcast.net> To: <BIGAMY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 3:51 PM Subject: [BIGAMY] Bigamy sentencing guidelines Hello Bigamy Listserv ; Has anyone posted bigamy sentencing guidelines? Were these set by the state? Was this considered a state or federal crime? I have an ancestor who went from Ohio, to Kentucky, to Illinois, and supposedly spent time in Moundsville Prison (WV) for bigamy. Might this be because she/they crossed state lines? Any idea on how to find the sentencing? Might this be with the prison records ( Moundsville is now closed, but the records were sent to the state archives.) Thanks! David To contact the administrator of this mailing list, send mail to BIGAMY-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BIGAMY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good Evening Group, I just found this listserv last night. I have a female bigamist in my family, but I do not know her name. It was such a scandal, that no one would talk about it and everyone who could give me information is gone. The information I have is based on my mothers visit as a child to the outside of Moundsville Prison (WVA) somewhere between 1932-1938. The woman behind bars was referred to as "my aunt" by my grandmother. This has helped to narrow the filed. Does anyone have ideas as to how to search records? I have a researcher in West Virginia who will search names for me within the prison records, but I need to narrow the field for her to search. Since the woman went to Moundsville, it was a federal offense. I have information of someone in my tree with a different surname than her children, who had lived in Ohio and then went to Pennsylvania. Does anyone have an idea of how long she may have been sentenced for her infraction in the 1920's-30's? Am I an odd bird in seeking out the bigamist? Thanks for your thoughts and input! David

wow david! you're not odd at all...that's what genealogy is all about...the skeletons, at least to me, make it that much more interesting...i've got a guy in PA who was an upstanding individual -or so it seemed but i found him with another family in IL at the same time...just can't quite put all the pieces of the puzzle together yet... happy trails to you! In a message dated 5/2/2008 8:08:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dpdevito@comcast.net writes: BIGAMY-admin@rootsweb.com. **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)

Lynn, ' I am glad I could help you with some hope .I had given up myself.I told myself "I'll leave this one last message and if no one answers I'll give it up" . So don't give it up.If you have some facts about the person start there .Location is a good one like where were they born,check that place out for the surname or similar spellings there of .Google just the surname .Dates what was going on abt. that time LA Purchase/God in GA./gold rush in CA./free property in OR.. Sorry I went on like that. Linda Lynn Craig <lynn@goldmist.co.uk> wrote: Linda I am really living in hope that my relatives are trying as hard as I am to make contact, I would love to meet them and have left messages on various sites. So glad it turned out well for you. thanks for letting me know Lynn On 8 May 2007, at 22:42, Linda Rogers wrote: > Lynn, > My grandfather was a bigamist abt. 1911.He too left my > Granny and two sons and another on the way. The woman he left with was > from the same little town.They went to Canada and got married and > lived in WA. state and had a family of their own. I searched online > for a time and finally went to a site and left a message and one of my > new cousins sent me a e mail,We are now meeting in New Orleans this > month. > Good Luck,Linda > > Lynn Craig wrote: > After the first World War, apparently lots of marriages broke up, but > my Grandmother refused to grant a divorce to my Grandfather. I could > not get much from my family as he was such a black sheep in their eyes > he was rubbed from their memory as far as possible. I did find a > little more from my Dad not long before he died. The name of his new > partner which was sufficiently distinctive a name for me to trace her > birth and death certificates - and she died with my Grandfather's > surname. I cannot find any evidence of divorce from my Grandma as my > Dad said she never granted it, so I assume my grandfather was a > bigamist. Does this fit with the experience of others? I understand > he fathered two children to this new partner and I would like to trace > them. > > Any advice and help would be much appreciated. > > > Lynn > > To contact the administrator of this mailing list, send mail to > BIGAMY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BIGAMY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > To contact the administrator of this mailing list, send mail to > BIGAMY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BIGAMY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > To contact the administrator of this mailing list, send mail to BIGAMY-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BIGAMY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My grandfather went to Canada to marry his second wife while still married to my grandma in CA.USA .It took some time to find them because we were looking in the USA .It's just a maybe ,but it might be the problem. Linda Sandra <sandra@staithes.demon.co.uk> wrote: My grandfather, Arthur Edward Higgins married my grandmother in 1919. He was older than her - late twenties. She was 21. I became interested in family history and, on my mothers death, found lots of photos and papers that I did not know existed. 1 was an army pay order for my grandfather in the 1st World War which detailed that his pay was to go to 'Mrs Higgins' This was before his marriage to my grandmoter. He was not in touch with his mother who had left him and his siblings when they were small. Grandad went on to leave my grandmother when my mother and sisters were small. I asked my father about it and he said that it was' always known' that grandad had been married before and not divorced. My Aunt (his daughter) said that she was told that, before her Mum married Arthur, a woman had knocked on the door of the family home and said 'He can't marry you - he is married to me.' After he left my grandmother, he lived with another woman who called herself 'Mrs Higgins'. I have searched the BMD exhaustively trying to find another marriage before my grandmothers but without success. Any ideas? Many thanks Sandra To contact the administrator of this mailing list, send mail to BIGAMY-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BIGAMY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My grandfather, Arthur Edward Higgins married my grandmother in 1919. He was older than her - late twenties. She was 21. I became interested in family history and, on my mothers death, found lots of photos and papers that I did not know existed. 1 was an army pay order for my grandfather in the 1st World War which detailed that his pay was to go to 'Mrs Higgins' This was before his marriage to my grandmoter. He was not in touch with his mother who had left him and his siblings when they were small. Grandad went on to leave my grandmother when my mother and sisters were small. I asked my father about it and he said that it was' always known' that grandad had been married before and not divorced. My Aunt (his daughter) said that she was told that, before her Mum married Arthur, a woman had knocked on the door of the family home and said 'He can't marry you - he is married to me.' After he left my grandmother, he lived with another woman who called herself 'Mrs Higgins'. I have searched the BMD exhaustively trying to find another marriage before my grandmothers but without success. Any ideas? Many thanks Sandra

Linda I am really living in hope that my relatives are trying as hard as I am to make contact, I would love to meet them and have left messages on various sites. So glad it turned out well for you. thanks for letting me know Lynn On 8 May 2007, at 22:42, Linda Rogers wrote: > Lynn, > My grandfather was a bigamist abt. 1911.He too left my > Granny and two sons and another on the way. The woman he left with was > from the same little town.They went to Canada and got married and > lived in WA. state and had a family of their own. I searched online > for a time and finally went to a site and left a message and one of my > new cousins sent me a e mail,We are now meeting in New Orleans this > month. > Good Luck,Linda > > Lynn Craig <lynn@goldmist.co.uk> wrote: > After the first World War, apparently lots of marriages broke up, but > my Grandmother refused to grant a divorce to my Grandfather. I could > not get much from my family as he was such a black sheep in their eyes > he was rubbed from their memory as far as possible. I did find a > little more from my Dad not long before he died. The name of his new > partner which was sufficiently distinctive a name for me to trace her > birth and death certificates - and she died with my Grandfather's > surname. I cannot find any evidence of divorce from my Grandma as my > Dad said she never granted it, so I assume my grandfather was a > bigamist. Does this fit with the experience of others? I understand > he fathered two children to this new partner and I would like to trace > them. > > Any advice and help would be much appreciated. > > > Lynn > > To contact the administrator of this mailing list, send mail to > BIGAMY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BIGAMY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > To contact the administrator of this mailing list, send mail to > BIGAMY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BIGAMY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Lynn, My grandfather was a bigamist abt. 1911.He too left my Granny and two sons and another on the way. The woman he left with was from the same little town.They went to Canada and got married and lived in WA. state and had a family of their own. I searched online for a time and finally went to a site and left a message and one of my new cousins sent me a e mail,We are now meeting in New Orleans this month. Good Luck,Linda Lynn Craig <lynn@goldmist.co.uk> wrote: After the first World War, apparently lots of marriages broke up, but my Grandmother refused to grant a divorce to my Grandfather. I could not get much from my family as he was such a black sheep in their eyes he was rubbed from their memory as far as possible. I did find a little more from my Dad not long before he died. The name of his new partner which was sufficiently distinctive a name for me to trace her birth and death certificates - and she died with my Grandfather's surname. I cannot find any evidence of divorce from my Grandma as my Dad said she never granted it, so I assume my grandfather was a bigamist. Does this fit with the experience of others? I understand he fathered two children to this new partner and I would like to trace them. Any advice and help would be much appreciated. Lynn To contact the administrator of this mailing list, send mail to BIGAMY-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BIGAMY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Everyone, I would also like to hear any advice on this as well. Thanks! Wendy -----Original Message----- From: bigamy-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bigamy-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Craig Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 4:15 AM To: BIGAMY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BIGAMY] 1920s After the first World War, apparently lots of marriages broke up, but my Grandmother refused to grant a divorce to my Grandfather. I could not get much from my family as he was such a black sheep in their eyes he was rubbed from their memory as far as possible. I did find a little more from my Dad not long before he died. The name of his new partner which was sufficiently distinctive a name for me to trace her birth and death certificates - and she died with my Grandfather's surname. I cannot find any evidence of divorce from my Grandma as my Dad said she never granted it, so I assume my grandfather was a bigamist. Does this fit with the experience of others? I understand he fathered two children to this new partner and I would like to trace them. Any advice and help would be much appreciated. Lynn To contact the administrator of this mailing list, send mail to BIGAMY-admin@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BIGAMY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

After the first World War, apparently lots of marriages broke up, but my Grandmother refused to grant a divorce to my Grandfather. I could not get much from my family as he was such a black sheep in their eyes he was rubbed from their memory as far as possible. I did find a little more from my Dad not long before he died. The name of his new partner which was sufficiently distinctive a name for me to trace her birth and death certificates - and she died with my Grandfather's surname. I cannot find any evidence of divorce from my Grandma as my Dad said she never granted it, so I assume my grandfather was a bigamist. Does this fit with the experience of others? I understand he fathered two children to this new partner and I would like to trace them. Any advice and help would be much appreciated. Lynn

Here is a situation that has me stumped. If I understood polygamy better, it might help. These questions arose while I was reviewing the U.S. Census for 1840, 1850, and 1860. Does the following indicate polygamy, pandemic, or something else? What other questions should I be asking myself to determine the answer? (My primary interest is in Paul's son, William H. Spears, 2, who was in Greenup, KY, in 1850.) 1840 U.S. Census A Paul Spears (30-40) lived in Greenup Co., KY with two girls (under 5) and one woman (20-30). Across the river in Union Twp., Lawrence Co., OH, there was a second Paul Spears (30-40). His household was made up of two boys (under 5), two girls (5-10 and 10-15), and a woman (20-30). Two other Spears families (Benjamin, 20-30 and William, 30-40) were in Paul's Ohio neighborhood. The three Spears in Ohio were in Agriculture. 1850 U.S. Census Paul Spears in District #2, Greenup, KY (41) was listed as a shoemaker born in VA. Members of his household were Patsy, 35, born in VA; Dolly, 14, born in KY; Catherine, 12, born in VA; John 9, born in KY; Nancy, 6; Isaac, 4; and William H., 2. The three youngest were born in OH. In Windsor Twp., Lawrence Co., OH, there were two Spears families living close together: Peter Spears (32, a farmer) and Paul Spears (40, born in VA, with no occupation listed). Paul's family consisted of Peggy, 36; John, 20; James, 19; Elizabeth, 17; Henry, 12; Polly, 9; Andrew, 8; Louisa, 6; and William, 3. Peggy, John, Henry, Polly, and Andrew could not read and write. Everyone except Paul was born in Ohio. 1860 Census No Paul Spears/Speers/Spear/Speer or family members as an intact group in Greenup, KY or Lawrence Co., OH (or in the U.S., for that matter) Peter Spears, above, and his family were still in Lawrence Co., OH. 1870 Census and beyond No Paul (or Peter) Spears/Speers/Spear/Speer, white, in the right age group, listed in the U.S. Census.

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forwarded by list mom ----- Original Message ----- From: Allen Larke To: BIGAMY-admin@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 7:32 AM Subject: bigamy hello my father was involved in a bigamous marriage in 1948. the case went to Braintree court where the woman was committed for trial .Sadly the paperwork i have obtained does not show where or when the trial took place. my father seemed to have kept this a secret and i worked from sratch on a rumour and spent many hours and letters trying to find outcome. is there anyway you are able to help track this case down? please email on: a.larke1@ntlworld.com many thanks allen

If you receive any replies off list, I'd like to share the information please. Bubbles from Robin Hood Country ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Johnson" <alan_mar@lineone.net> To: <BIGAMY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 3:06 PM Subject: [BIGAMY] bigamists > Hello everyone, > New to this list. Are their easy/hard ways to find a bigamist. I have one > in my family tree in the Lancashire area - 19th century but don't know how > to find records or archives for such people. > > Alan J. > > ---------------------------------------- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 3438 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now! > > > ==== BIGAMY Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from mail mode send a message to > BIGAMY-L-request@rootsweb.com > that contains the word unsubscribe and nothing else. > >

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Hello, I hope that someone is out there to receive this email. My gr grandfather was said to have been a Bigamist. His name was Elijah Cross bn circa 1888 in Alabama. I have a certified copy of his death certificate and he died in Alabama. Talk has it that he died while in Alabama with one wife and the Ohio wife found out about his death and showed up for the funeral service and disrupted things. As the talk goes on, my gr grandfather also had another Ohio wife in Cleveland. I'm trying to figure out the best why for this to be documented, I have only gotten the marriage license for one of the marriages and desire to verify the others. Any tips, suggestions, etc would be greatly appreciated. Terri Cross Springfield, Ohio A Happy Hunter