This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GAE.2ACIB/113.1 Message Board Post: Daniel, I am a bit confused... I have a Theobald Dewalt Bieber who married Sara Ludmann January 14, 1716/17 in Berg Und Thal Lutheran Ch, Hirschland, Alsace, Germany. Descendants of Theobald Dewalt Bieber 1 Bieber, Theobald Dewalt b: Abt. 1690 in Hirschland, Alsace, Germany d: August 31, 1769 in Dryville, Berks Co, Pennsylvania +Ludmann, Sara b: in Eyweiler, Germany d: 1764 2 Bieber, Johann Theobald 2 Bieber, Anna Magdalena 2 Bieber, Anna Eva d: January 8, 1738/39 2 Bieber, Lorentius "Lorentz" b: October 28, 1717 in Hirschland, Alsace, Germany d: Abt. 1787 in Berks Co, Pennsylvania +Adam, Maria Catherina *2nd Wife of Bieber, Lorentius "Lorentz": +Eva 2 Bieber, Infant Son b: Bet. 1723 - 1724 2 Bieber, Theobald b: Abt. 1727 d: December 31, 1730 2 Bieber, Hans Michael b: January 10, 1729/30 d: January 21, 1730/31 2 Bieber, Johann Jacob b: December 24, 1731 in Hirschland, Alsace, Germany d: Abt. 1785 +Steinbrenner, Christina Catharine 2 Bieber, Otilla b: Abt. 1739 2 Bieber, Johann George b: Abt. 1753 d: Abt. 1753 Is this the same family???