This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RdD.2ACEB/34.1.1 Message Board Post: My Gr-Grandfather, Otto Paul Besser, was born in Neuhaus, Germany in 1860 to Louis Besser. I don't know when he came to the US or where he originally settled. He lived in New Braunfels, TX before 1885 until sometime after 1894. He moved to San Antonio, TX and lived there until his death in 1945. He married Bertha Schwartz or Swanz and they had 7 children, 4 of which died in infancy. Of the 3 remaining I have information on Helen and Elsie, but nothing on Oscar who was born in 1890. Hope we can find a connection. Jessie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RdD.2ACEB/34.1 Message Board Post: Hi I was wondering where your Otto Paul Besser was born and where he past away at. My ancestorial Gr.Gr.Gr. grandparents settled in Montgomery Co., Tx. in 1841. Their decendants have lived in this area since . Though some of them may have moved around. Their names were Gen. John Slater & Julia A. Hampton Besser. Paul F. Smith

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RdD.2ACEB/10.24 Message Board Post: Besser's Of Texas John Jacob Besser was a minister to England in the 16th century. He was a resident of Heidelberg, Germany. He married Susannah McKean Tinsley( b.11/01/1780in London, England, she died 06/1860 in Huntsville Tx.)They married abt.1801, producing one child ,John Slater Besser (b.08/03/1802 after coming toPa.from England.Settled at Northcumberland Pa.He died May 19, 1893 in Huntsville, Tx., Walker Co.He later moved to Troy, Missouri,Lincon Co.. Methis wife Julia A. Hampton in Louisville Kentucky. She was born 02/18/1812 in Kentucky &married 06/19/1835 & died 05/13/1845 in Walker Co., Tx.They moved from Troy, Missouri Nov. 1840 arrived in Montgomery Co., Tx.( now Walker Co.) near Huntsville, Tx.Feb. 12, 1841. Their marriage 9children.John S. Tinsley Besser born may 23, 1826in TroyMissouri& died Sept 6, 1846 at Lone Oak ,Montgomery, Co., Tx.( now New Waverly Tx. Walker, Co)32 Susan Elizabeth Besser Collard, born 4th day Jan? 1828 in Troy Missouri, died Dec.3, 1848 in Walker Co.,Tx.! #3James McKean Besser born Dec. 19, 1832, no death date. #4Jilia Helen Besser born Feb. 6,1833in Troy, Missouri no death date.#5 Tabitha Louise Besser born Oct. 22, 1836 in Troy Missouri no death date. #6Thomas Hampton Besser born in Troy Missouri Mar. 2, 1837died Mar. 9 ,18 37 in Troy Missouri. #7 Charles Thomas Besser( My Gr.Gr. Grandfather)born Jan.21,1839 in Troy Missouri.died Jan 21, 1914in Walker Co., Tx.#8Eliza Missouri Besser born Oct.24, 1841in Montgomery Co., Tx.no death date. # 9Rebecca Ann Besser born July 10, 1844 in MontgomeryCo., Tx. It should be mention that the above named Co.'s in Tx. wasin the REPUBLIC OF TEXAS. Tx. did not become a state before Dec. 1846. There is no mention in the family bible of what happened to John Jacob Besser. He may have remarried? Paul F. Smith

This is the last snippet for a couple of weeks as I shall be away/very busy. Best wishes, Sherry Landa List *Owner* [email protected] Website at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chorleywood/ This week the grave of a famous BESSER Jerome "Joe" Besser Birth: Aug. 12, 1907 Death: Mar. 1, 1988 He was one of the Three Stooges for a brief period of time. Burial: Forest Lawn Memorial Park (Glendale) Glendale (Los Angeles County) Los Angeles County California, USA See a photo of the grave and of Joe, leave flowers or a message at http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=1554 Best wishes, Sherry Landa List *Owner* [email protected] Website at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chorleywood/ This list is only as good as you make it. What have you posted recently?

This week's snippet is a bit different. I am asking you to post your interests, a sort of Roll Call. Please send us who you are researching (including dates and places) and who and where you are. It should look something like this: I am seeking any British BESSER but particularly those who came from Germany. I am trying to establish where my great-grandmother, Jenny BESSER, came from (best I have is Gt Glogow) and whether she is related to any of the other German BESSERs that I have found in London in the 1880s/1890s. The only way I can think of doing this is to collect all the BESSER entries I can find and try to piece the families together. Best Wishes, Sherry Landa (in Salford, Lancs, England) [email protected]

Final Baptism entry (for the moment). Elizabeth BESSER d/o Charles and Fanny, bapt 4 Mar 1866, at Steyning, Sussex Steyning is now part of Brighton and Hove. To apply for the birth certificate send a cheque for £6.50 made out to "Brighton and Hove Council" to Brighton Town Hall, Bartholomews, Brighton, BN1 1JA. Best wishes, Sherry Landa List *Owner* [email protected] Website at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chorleywood/ This list is only as good as you make it. What have you posted recently?

Adult Baptisms are not that common, I wonder why these two, both children of Daniel and Frances, were not baptised at birth. Both baptisms were at St James', Trowbridge, Wilts Edmond, born 1813, bapt 25 Aug 1839, age 17 Elizabeth, born 1811, bapt 24 Sept 1839, age 19 Best wishes, Sherry Landa List *Owner* [email protected] Website at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chorleywood/ This list is only as good as you make it. What have you posted recently?

Three baptisms this week for one family. The children of Edward and Hannah BESSER were baptised at St James' church, Trowbridge, Wilts, as follows: Elizabeth, bapt 31 Mar 1793 Mary, bapt 16 Jun 1799 Hannah, bapt 16 Jun 1799 Were Mary and Hannah twins or was one just not baptised at birth? Best wishes, Sherry Landa List *Owner* [email protected] Website at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chorleywood/ This list is only as good as you make it. What have you posted recently?

A Baptism this week from Yatton Keynell, Wilts: Richard BESSER s/o Isaac and Ane (sic), bapt 13 Nov 1737 Sure that should be Anne??? Best wishes, Sherry Landa List *Owner* [email protected] Website at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chorleywood/ This list is only as good as you make it. What have you posted recently?

Please do NOT post the current addresses or telephone numbers of people. If you want to make a contact name and number known the correct way to do it is to post a message asking people to contact you privately and then give them the number or address. It is against all Rootsweb and Ancestry netiquette to post these sorts of details. Once a message has been posted there is NOTHING I can do to retrieve it. These details stay on the archives and can be picked up by any unscrupulous persons. It is an infringement of a person's right to privacy and it is especially important that we protect the elderly and children. Thank you for your cooperation. Best wishes, Sherry Landa List *Owner* [email protected] Website at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chorleywood/ This list is only as good as you make it. What have you posted recently?

Baptism Record from St James' church, Trowbridge, Wilts Richard BESSER s/o Richard and Ann, bapt 16 May 1736 Any takers on this one? Best wishes, Sherry Landa List *Owner* [email protected] Website at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chorleywood/ This list is only as good as you make it. What have you posted recently?

I have another burial for you this week. This time it's from All Saint's church, Hackford near Reepham, Norfolk Benjamin BESSER? 2 Nov 1837 (age 68) It would be nice if someone could confirm that this one actually was a BESSER Best wishes, Sherry Landa List *Owner* [email protected] Website at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chorleywood/ This list is only as good as you make it. What have you posted recently?

Dear Listers This week the *snippet* is four burials from St Michael's church, Hilperton, Wilts: William BESSER 25 Oct 1821(age 17) Edward BESSER 4 Nov 1823 (age 66) Hannah BESSER 20 Nov 1825 (age 65) James BESSER 12 Dec 1825 (age 28) Anyone want to publicly claim these? Best wishes, Sherry Landa List *Owner* [email protected] Website at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chorleywood/

Dear List, This week's *snippets* come from: PRO H02, 3: Ship Lists and Alien Certificates 1836-69 BESSER, #, on "Leo" from Hamburg to Hull 30 Aug 1836 BESSER, H, merchant of Hamburg, from Hamburg to London 23 Jul 1853 BESSER, Joseph, tischler of Maklonberg?, on "Britannia" from Hamburg to Hull 6 Aug 1853 If these are of interest try the Hamburg Shipping Lists at http://www.heo-online.de/pages/e_heo.html Best wishes, Sherry Landa List *Owner* [email protected] Website at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chorleywood/ This list is only as good as you make it. What have you posted recently?

Hello List, This week I am posting another 2 marriages from the British Vital Records Index CDs: BESSER, Isaac Wife: Ann Miriam COLLINS Marriage Date: 12 Dec 1822 Recorded in: Saint James, Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England Source: FHL Number 1279433 Dates: 1813-1836 BESSER, Edmund Wife: Jane BOWYER Marriage Date: 22 Mar 1835 Recorded in: Saint James, Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England Source: FHL Number 1279433 Dates: 1813-1836 That's it for BESSER marriages on the CDs. Best wishes, Sherry Landa List *Owner* [email protected] Website at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chorleywood/ This list is only as good as you make it. What have you posted recently?

Dear Listers, This week's *snippet* comes from The British Vital Records Index Marriages CD. BESSER, Daniel Wife: Frances MOODY Marriage Date: 28 Nov 1809 Recorded in: Saint James, Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England Source: FHL Number 1279313 Dates: 1754-1822 PERRY, William Marriage Wife: Frances BESSER Wife previously married Marriage Date: 5 Oct 1815 Recorded in: Saint James, Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England Source: FHL Number 1279313 Dates: 1754-1822 Hope these are of use to someone. Best wishes, Sherry Landa List *Owner* [email protected] Website at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chorleywood/

Two new lists have been formed this week which may be of interest to some of you. Marion Maychell (a good friend) has started: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in England, http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENGLAND-ROOTS.html subscribe in mail mode by sending a message to [email protected] that contains the word subscribe and nothing else. If you prefer digest mode, then send the command instead to [email protected] I have started (in association with Jackye Sullins) British-Jewry-L The name probably speaks for itself. It's a forum for anyone researching British Jewry. Whether your ancestors were "passing through" or permanent members of British society, this is a place for you. Posts relating to all aspects of life for British Jews as well as research methods, success stories and genealogy will be welcomed. EVERYONE is welcome! Subscribe in mail mode by sending a message to [email protected] that contains the word subscribe and nothing else. If you prefer digest mode, then send the command instead to [email protected] Best wishes, Sherry Landa List *Owner* [email protected] Website at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chorleywood/ This list is only as good as you make it. What have you posted recently?

Dear Listers, This week's *snippet* is more of an offer you can't refuse than a *snippet*. I am going to Flanders (Nord/Pas-de-Calais/Somme areas of France and West-Vlaanderen, Belgium) in just over 2 weeks. I am offering (on a first come, first served basis) to photograph graves/monumental inscriptions of war dead, provided you can provide me with the name, location and plot number and that the location falls in the above area. Please send your request privately (not to list) and mark it subject line Flanders, then I won't miss it due to my mail filtering system. Best wishes, Sherry Landa List *Owner* [email protected] Website at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chorleywood/

Dear Listers, In another effort to wake up this list a bit and get people to post, I have decided that each week I shall try to post a *snippet* for your enjoyment/benefit/information :-) As we are already in the second week of January this is a bumper *snippet* -2 for the price of one. This week's (fortnight's) *snippets* are from the CWGC and a birth certificate. Private 6097833 Abraham BESSER, Royal Army Ordnance Corps died Friday 23rd April 1944, aged 29. Son of Harry and Esther BESSER of Kilburn, Middx. Streatham Park Jewish Cemetery, Surrey, Sec F Row 30 Grave 23 Abraham was born at 236 Belsize Road, Kilburn on 15 September 1914, son of Harry BESSER, master tailor, and Esther (ROZENSTEIN). Any takers? Best wishes, Sherry Landa List *Owner* [email protected] Website at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chorleywood/ This list is only as good as you make it. What have you posted recently?

Hello, This is a cross-list posting. I apologise if you see it several times. I have just spoken to the PRO census help desk (01684 585299). The site is inaccessible currently, due to a server problem (no news there). Session times have been extended to 96 hours. If paying by credit card and you have viewed no records after the 96 hours you will NOT be charged anything. HOWEVER, if you have viewed even one record you will be charged the £5 minimum charge. The advice was to either: a) keep trying within your 96 hour period or b) WAIT! Once the site settles down you should be able to use it *normally*. If you chose option a) and see any records then the £5 will be charged, so the risk is yours, but the help desk official said he'd wait rather than giving his credit card number. It would be nice, if those of us that have not yet spent anything, hung back, and when the site returns we let those who have spent something but not their full £5 get on and at least use up some more of that £5, but I doubt that this will happen. The press have now reported the release of the census on line so I can only imagine things will get worse before they get better. I hope this information is of help to some. Best Wishes, Sherry Landa (in Salford, Lancs) [email protected]