Thankyou Bob, much appreciated. Jules In the St. Helens marriage index there is no John ABDY listed and there are no HAWKE marriages listed. Yet when one looks through the 1734 marriages, there they are: 1734 17 Feb ABDY John yeoman, Steventon HAWKES Mary Steventon So much for relying on the index! Here are Steventon baptisms: 1736 23 Nov ABDY Mary d John and Mary 1738 25 Feb ABDY John s John and Mary 1744 21 Oct ABDY James s John and Mary There are no other ABDY baptisms, nor any for HAWKE Here are the burials for Steventon: 1745 27 Feb ABDY Thomas of Clifton 1778 20 May ABDY Mary w of John There is no record of the banns in Harwell, as the transcript only beings in 1814 for these. In Clifton Hampden there are these burial entries: 1729 5 Nov ABDEY Mary d of Thomas and Amy 1740 4 Feb ABDEY Amy w of Thomas All of this info is taken from the CD transcripts put out by the Oxford FHS. I hope this is of some help to you. I don't have access to Brightwell. Bob Burns