Bridget I had some luck at St Mary's Slough by going to the local undertaker "Sargeants". I was able to look through their registers and then one of the staff took me to the churchyard and helped me to locate the grave I was looking for. If the undertakers are no longer operational I think that their records go to the Public Records Office. For Bray records that would probably be in Reading. Margaret Bowyer Guest > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 10:16:38 +0100 > From: "Bridget Hole" <bridget369@talktalk.net> > Subject: [BRK] Bray churchyard > To: "BERKSHIRE rootsweb" <BERKSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <CD1EB8724FA84630B82F4264CF41544D@owner97e8a3d4c> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Thank you Margaret and Robert. The church can't help, but I will explore > the suggestions you have made. > www.royalmaidenhead.co.uk > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BERKSHIRE list administrator, send an email to > BERKSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BERKSHIRE mailing list, send an email to > BERKSHIRE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of BERKSHIRE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 105 > ***************************************** > >

Thank you Margaret and Robert. The church can't help, but I will explore the suggestions you have made. www.royalmaidenhead.co.uk

Margaret Would you be able to check for any GIBBONS for me please? Thanks Joy Light

Bridget The Berks FHS sells a CD of burials, including Bray St Michael 1607-1636 (BTs), 1654-1929 which may help: http://www.berksfhs.org.uk/shop/Burial-indexes/BFHS-Berkshire-Burial-Index-9th-Edition-CD/flypage.tpl.html Coverage of the CD: http://www.berksfhs.org.uk/cms/About-Berkshire/bbi9/Page-2.html You could also look at: http://www.berksfhs.org.uk/genuki/BRK/index.html#Cemeteries Robert Monk On 5 July 2011 18:22, Phil Wood <phil@filz.screaming.net> wrote: > The BRO doesn't seem to have MIs for St Michael's so your best bet is > probably the church itself. > > -----Original Message----- > From: berkshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > berkshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Bridget Hole > Sent: 04 July 2011 18:35 > To: BERKSHIRE rootsweb > Subject: [BRK] Bray churchyard, Berkshire > > Does anyone know where I can find a plan of the graves in the churchyard of > St. Michael's church in Bray, please? > > www.royalmaidenhead.co.uk > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I would suggest that you contact the church office as they will have documented the churchyard. The reason I say this is because when I visited Warfield Church they gave me a print out of the "New Graveyard" which is just across the road from the church. If anyone would like me to check for a name please contact me. I don't have the main churchyard. Margaret Bowyer Guest Canada (Royal Commonwealth Honeymoon Destination) -----Original Message----- From: berkshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:berkshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bridget Hole Sent: 04 July 2011 18:35 To: BERKSHIRE rootsweb Subject: [BRK] Bray churchyard, Berkshire Does anyone know where I can find a plan of the graves in the churchyard of St. Michael's church in Bray, please?

The BRO doesn't seem to have MIs for St Michael's so your best bet is probably the church itself. -----Original Message----- From: berkshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:berkshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bridget Hole Sent: 04 July 2011 18:35 To: BERKSHIRE rootsweb Subject: [BRK] Bray churchyard, Berkshire Does anyone know where I can find a plan of the graves in the churchyard of St. Michael's church in Bray, please? www.royalmaidenhead.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Therese I wasn't taking it personally! don't drive nowadays as have been ill. If you can visit I would recommend it as you will able to see everything they have and judge for yourself. I have just been in touch with the new Oxhist unit (combined Oxford records offices etc.) about some what I hope will turn out to be family material and demolish one of our long standing brick walls. Some of the stuff cannot be photocopied because it is too large even for the A3 printer; one document has been tied a corner so they can only copy the smaller upper page (and presumably the bits around the edges of the page below) as they can't fold it back. Fortunately the stuff they can copy is most important to me and I have sent the order off. As they offer a transcription service, at a cost, I have asked for a price for transcribing the second sheet of the tied document. These are wills and a receipt for a legacy – very specific (can’t wait to see why the receipt is A3 size – hopefully lots of additional information she says greedily!) I think that as you are looking for something rather more general it would be well worth a visit, especially as you may be able to look at full birth, marriage death material for your Binfield family and so glean some details that don’t show on the transcription sites. Wendy -----Original Message----- From: Therese Family Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:13 AM To: BERKSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRK] Elizabeth KNIBB, servant of Elliott/Van Cortlandt,Binfield 1801 census. Thanks! Yes Nivard, you are quite right. Clearly I put so much information in about the Elliotts & Van Cortlands that I forgot to point out that she's shown as Elizabeth Wheeler in the 1841, 51 and 61 censuses! The 51 and 61 censuses describe her as Isaac's mother and grandmother. The Parish records make clear she would be his grandmother, not mother (including the marriage between Elizabeth KNIBB and Isaac WHEELER c1780 in Binfield in 1804). I'm sorry for any confusion caused. No Wendy - I'm not trying to get one of you to go to the record office for me. I was just wondering, before I send an e-mail to the record office and perhaps visit, whether any of you happened to know anything useful which might point me in the right direction. A bit of a long shot perhaps, but you never know... Thanks for the photo link. Perhaps unsurprisingly, it looks very posh. Anyway, I'll be very happy to do look-ups on the 1801 census if anyone is interested (including the "missing" map!). Therese. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks!   Yes Nivard, you are quite right.  Clearly I put so much information in about the Elliotts & Van Cortlands that I forgot to point out that she's shown as Elizabeth Wheeler in the 1841, 51 and 61 censuses!  The 51 and 61 censuses describe her as Isaac's mother and grandmother.  The Parish records make clear she would be his grandmother, not mother (including the marriage between Elizabeth KNIBB and Isaac WHEELER c1780 in Binfield in 1804).  I'm sorry for any confusion caused.   No Wendy - I'm not trying to get one of you to go to the record office for me.  I was just wondering, before I send an e-mail to the record office and perhaps visit, whether any of you happened to know anything useful which might point me in the right direction.  A bit of a long shot perhaps, but you never know...   Thanks for the photo link.  Perhaps unsurprisingly, it looks very posh.   Anyway, I'll be very happy to do look-ups on the 1801 census if anyone is interested (including the "missing" map!).   Therese.

If you google Binfield House Binfield Berkshire you will get a link to Bracknell Forest Homes which has a photo and some information - the place is now retirement homes As to what is in the records - the only way to find out is to look. I wonder from your post if you are hoping some kind person will do this for you - it take a long time to go through records so if you get no response your only option is to buy whatever copies the Record Office can photocopy Wendy -----Original Message----- From: Therese Family Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 12:38 PM To: Berkshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [BRK] Elizabeth KNIBB, servant of Elliott/Van Cortlandt,Binfield 1801 census. Hi! This seems like the sort of question the experts here might be able to throw some light on. My 4x great grandmother Elizabeth KNIBB c1775-6, of "Watin" Warwickshire according to the 1861 census (Leek Wooton, possibly?), is listed in the 1801 census for Binfield, Berkshire as one servant amongst many in the household of "Elliot O E Esq (High Sheriff) & Margaret van Cortland". The property in question is "household 60", apparently Binfield Park House, Binfield, Berkshire. (I have a .jpg copy of the 1801 census map of Binfield which I can send to anyone who's interested - even though according to the recently published pamphlet on the Binfield 1801 census, the map has "gone missing" and is hence not included!) She is in fact Margaret-Hughes Van Cortlandt (daughter of Col. Philip Van Cortlandt, loyalist soldier in the American revolution, born in New York in 1734). He is O Elliott Elliott Esq. of Binfield Park Berks and Portland Place. Whatever "High Sheriff" refers to, he wasn't High Sheriff of Berkshire according to a list I found on Wiki. Does anyone know whether there are any records for Binfield Park House and the Elliott/Van Cortlandt household which might refer to their servants and where they came from in the late 1700s/early 1800s? There clearly are some records of the Elliott/Van Cortlandt household in Binfield judging by the Berkshire Record Office's the online catalogue, but it's not obvious whether they would be of any use or not. Presumably they would have any useful records if there are any. Should I be looking anywhere else? (I may visit the record office or send them an e-mail at some point, but presumably I would have to pay them to trawl through the records for me.) I'd be grateful if anyone here has any observations or bright ideas. Thanks! Therese. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone know where I can find a plan of the graves in the churchyard of St. Michael's church in Bray, please? www.royalmaidenhead.co.uk

Hi Therese I don't know about others but I am a tad confused by your post perhaps its just the way I read it? I can find no Elizabeth KNIBBS in Binfield in 1861, the nearest I can find is an Elizabeth WHEELER aged 86 born Watin Warwickshire (or so it is transcribed) She is living with her son? and his wife Isaac and Elizabeth WHEELER (in 1851 the older Eliz' is the grandmother to the same couple) Or did you mean the 1801 for that as well ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) Hi! This seems like the sort of question the experts here might be able to throw some light on. My 4x great grandmother Elizabeth KNIBB c1775-6, of "Watin" Warwickshire according to the 1861 census (Leek Wooton, possibly?), is listed in the 1801 census for Binfield, Berkshire as one servant amongst many in the household of "Elliot O E Esq (High Sheriff) & Margaret van Cortland". The property in question is "household 60", apparently Binfield Park House, Binfield, Berkshire. (I have a .jpg copy of the 1801 census map of Binfield which I can send to anyone who's interested - even though according to the recently published pamphlet on the Binfield 1801 census, the map has "gone missing" and is hence not included!) She is in fact Margaret-Hughes Van Cortlandt (daughter of Col. Philip Van Cortlandt, loyalist soldier in the American revolution, born in New York in 1734). He is O Elliott Elliott Esq. of Binfield Park Berks and Portland Place. Whatever "High Sheriff" refers to, he wasn't High Sheriff of Berkshire according to a list I found on Wiki. Does anyone know whether there are any records for Binfield Park House and the Elliott/Van Cortlandt household which might refer to their servants and where they came from in the late 1700s/early 1800s? There clearly are some records of the Elliott/Van Cortlandt household in Binfield judging by the Berkshire Record Office's the online catalogue, but it's not obvious whether they would be of any use or not. Presumably they would have any useful records if there are any. Should I be looking anywhere else? (I may visit the record office or send them an e-mail at some point, but presumably I would have to pay them to trawl through the records for me.) I'd be grateful if anyone here has any observations or bright ideas. Thanks! Therese.

Hi!   This seems like the sort of question the experts here might be able to throw some light on.   My 4x great grandmother Elizabeth KNIBB c1775-6, of "Watin" Warwickshire according to the 1861 census (Leek Wooton, possibly?), is listed in the 1801 census for Binfield, Berkshire as one servant amongst many in the household of "Elliot O E Esq (High Sheriff) & Margaret van Cortland".   The property in question is "household 60", apparently Binfield Park House, Binfield, Berkshire.   (I have a .jpg copy of the 1801 census map of Binfield which I can send to anyone who's interested - even though according to the recently published pamphlet on the Binfield 1801 census, the map has "gone missing" and is hence not included!)   She is in fact Margaret-Hughes Van Cortlandt (daughter of Col. Philip Van Cortlandt, loyalist soldier in the American revolution, born in New York in 1734).    He is O Elliott Elliott Esq. of Binfield Park Berks and Portland Place.  Whatever "High Sheriff" refers to, he wasn't High Sheriff of Berkshire according to a list I found on Wiki.   Does anyone know whether there are any records for Binfield Park House and the Elliott/Van Cortlandt household which might refer to their servants and where they came from in the late 1700s/early 1800s?   There clearly are some records of the Elliott/Van Cortlandt household in Binfield judging by the Berkshire Record Office's the online catalogue, but it's not obvious whether they would be of any use or not.  Presumably they would have any useful records if there are any.    Should I be looking anywhere else?   (I may visit the record office or send them an e-mail at some point, but presumably I would have to pay them to trawl through the records for me.)   I'd be grateful if anyone here has any observations or bright ideas.  Thanks! Therese.

Oh you are a lovely lady That is the best lead that I have had for a long time Thanks very, very much Cheers Steve -----Original Message----- From: berkshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:berkshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mofid42@tiscali.co.uk Sent: Sunday, 3 July 2011 5:52 PM To: berkshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRK] WESTLEY, Thomas & Phoebe Hi Steve I am not connected to the family but I did find on the IGI a baptism for a Phoebe Davis c 12 Jul 1795 St Giles Cripplegate London d/o David Davis and Elizabeth. (Only shows up when you do a search without adding a county) There are several other baptisms in the area for a couple of that name, two of which also have the name Morgan as a middle name. Have you seen the actual images for the marriages of Phoebe Davis/Westley? The one where she marries Thomas Westley the witnesses are David Davis and what looks to me as if it could be Sarah Westley but spelled as Wesley or Westey. There is a baptism for a Thomas Westley c 6 Jun 1790 St Katherine by the Tower London s/o John Westley and Elizabeth but I couldn't find that they had a child called Sarah so maybe not your Thomas. Although she could be the wife of a male sibling Hope this may help you regards MOIRA -----Original Message----- From: Steve Westley Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 12:25 AM To: BERKSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [BRK] WESTLEY, Thomas & Phoebe Good morning listers My name is Stephen Westley and I am searching for information on my Great, Great Grandparents. I believe that they may have been transient workers, as I am finding it very hard to fill in the gaps in their lives. Thomas Westley & Phoebe Davis were married on the 23 January 1821 at St Leonards, Shoreditch, London, Middlesex. Originally, I thought that they were "natives" of London, but after considerable searching and professional research, I can still find no sign of them until 20 February 1833 when their so called youngest son William was baptised at St Marys, Islington. He was 1 month old when baptised and may have been born in another county, although his parent's address was listed as Payne Street. At the age of 16, William migrated to New Zealand, so I have quite a lot of information on his life, however Thomas and Phoebe once again managed to disappear. I have since learned that Phoebe was married to Isaac Webster on 19 April 1852 at St Pancras Parish Church so Thomas must have died prior to this date. Maybe a family from this list has a Thomas and Phoebe Westley that were not married in the area but who have children born in the parish or elsewhere. I have already placed this notice in Kent, Surrey, and Hertfordshire lists with a limited amount of success, but a lot of helpful advice. I look forward to hearing from a cousin!!! Cheers Steve Westley Grafton NSW ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1516/3739 - Release Date: 07/02/11 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good morning listers My name is Stephen Westley and I am searching for information on my Great, Great Grandparents. I believe that they may have been transient workers, as I am finding it very hard to fill in the gaps in their lives. Thomas Westley & Phoebe Davis were married on the 23 January 1821 at St Leonards, Shoreditch, London, Middlesex. Originally, I thought that they were "natives" of London, but after considerable searching and professional research, I can still find no sign of them until 20 February 1833 when their so called youngest son William was baptised at St Marys, Islington. He was 1 month old when baptised and may have been born in another county, although his parent's address was listed as Payne Street. At the age of 16, William migrated to New Zealand, so I have quite a lot of information on his life, however Thomas and Phoebe once again managed to disappear. I have since learned that Phoebe was married to Isaac Webster on 19 April 1852 at St Pancras Parish Church so Thomas must have died prior to this date. Maybe a family from this list has a Thomas and Phoebe Westley that were not married in the area but who have children born in the parish or elsewhere. I have already placed this notice in Kent, Surrey, and Hertfordshire lists with a limited amount of success, but a lot of helpful advice. I look forward to hearing from a cousin!!! Cheers Steve Westley Grafton NSW

Hi Steve I am not connected to the family but I did find on the IGI a baptism for a Phoebe Davis c 12 Jul 1795 St Giles Cripplegate London d/o David Davis and Elizabeth. (Only shows up when you do a search without adding a county) There are several other baptisms in the area for a couple of that name, two of which also have the name Morgan as a middle name. Have you seen the actual images for the marriages of Phoebe Davis/Westley? The one where she marries Thomas Westley the witnesses are David Davis and what looks to me as if it could be Sarah Westley but spelled as Wesley or Westey. There is a baptism for a Thomas Westley c 6 Jun 1790 St Katherine by the Tower London s/o John Westley and Elizabeth but I couldn't find that they had a child called Sarah so maybe not your Thomas. Although she could be the wife of a male sibling Hope this may help you regards MOIRA -----Original Message----- From: Steve Westley Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 12:25 AM To: BERKSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [BRK] WESTLEY, Thomas & Phoebe Good morning listers My name is Stephen Westley and I am searching for information on my Great, Great Grandparents. I believe that they may have been transient workers, as I am finding it very hard to fill in the gaps in their lives. Thomas Westley & Phoebe Davis were married on the 23 January 1821 at St Leonards, Shoreditch, London, Middlesex. Originally, I thought that they were "natives" of London, but after considerable searching and professional research, I can still find no sign of them until 20 February 1833 when their so called youngest son William was baptised at St Marys, Islington. He was 1 month old when baptised and may have been born in another county, although his parent's address was listed as Payne Street. At the age of 16, William migrated to New Zealand, so I have quite a lot of information on his life, however Thomas and Phoebe once again managed to disappear. I have since learned that Phoebe was married to Isaac Webster on 19 April 1852 at St Pancras Parish Church so Thomas must have died prior to this date. Maybe a family from this list has a Thomas and Phoebe Westley that were not married in the area but who have children born in the parish or elsewhere. I have already placed this notice in Kent, Surrey, and Hertfordshire lists with a limited amount of success, but a lot of helpful advice. I look forward to hearing from a cousin!!! Cheers Steve Westley Grafton NSW ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1516/3739 - Release Date: 07/02/11

>From The Morning Post ( London, England ), Saturday, November 28, 1857; pg. 8; Issue 26182. DEATH. NEWELL . - On the 14th ult., at his residence, Holyport Lodge, Bray, Berks., George Wm. NEWELL, Esq., aged seventy - one.

>From Oracle and Public Advertiser ( London, England ), Thursday, September 1, 1796; Issue 19 415. MARRIED. On Sunday last, at St. Faith's, Watling-street, Mr. Stephen NEAT , butcher, of Newgate-market, aged 25, to the beautiful Miss Sarah SILVERSIDE , aged 45, of Wantage, in the county of Berks. Also in the Whitehall Evening Post ( 1770 ) ( London, England ), August 30, 1796 - September 1, 1796; Issue 7172. AND, Morning Post and Fashionable World ( London, England ), Wednesday, August 31, 1796; Issue 7635. This is NOT connected to our research, but we checked for the announcement, or any disclaimer, in other newspapers, with a Butcher ( name NEAT ( similar to MEAT ) ) marrying Miss SILVERSIDE !

Dear Rosemary, Thank you very much for this, I'm sure it will prove very useful! Kindest regards, Jon

Very many thanks Karen, I know the trees you refer to, sadly they are mostly duplicated and contain quite a number of errors, where info hasn't been thoroughly checked and corrected. This happens a lot with online trees unfortunately. I guess even back in the mid 1700's, 30 miles wasn't far away. My John NIXEY started his life in Cuddesdon, Oxfordshire, in 1737, then as I say was apprenticed in Brightwell in 1754, married in Upton cum Chalvey, Bucks, in 1765 where he appears to have stayed for the rest of his life until his death in 1817. I don't know if these places appear to form a route, or whether its here there and everywhere. <G> Many thanks once again, Jon

Hi Jon, I don't know if you already know of this but on GenUKI you can find out how far 2 places are from each other without using a map. Go to http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/gaz and type in the name of one place ie Brightwell. A number of results come up including Brightwell, Berks. Click on the Gazetteer place entry (not the GenUKI parish name) and you are taken to a page with a map and other links. Right at the bottom of this page there is this statement: "You can also ask for a calculation of the distance from Brightwell to another place." Clicking on this takes you to a page where you can input a second place ie. Peasemore, and the result is: "Peasemore, Berkshire [SU461774] is 10.8 miles (17.4 Km) SW of Brightwell, Berkshire [SU575905]. This is measured directly between the two points 'as the crow flies' ignoring any geographical features such as rivers or hills. " HTH Rosemary Northumberland UK Email: rosemary@rprobert.co.uk Family History: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rprobert/ Banburyshire Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~engcbanb/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On 21/06/2011 11:33, Jon's FH wrote: > > Being totally blind, I'm unable to view online maps of Berkshire. > Could SKS please give me an idea of how far Brightwell and Peasemore > were from each other? > > With many thanks in advance for any hints, clues, suggestions and > help, best wishes to all, > > Jon