Derek Trinder the BerksFHS Chairman will again be talking with Karen Kimberley about her family history between 11.00 & 12.00 on Ann Diamond's Berkshire Radio Programme this Monday the 12th October. I understand Karen has discovered a lot more about her family with Derek's help since the last programme and will be sharing it with listeners and demonstrating how your local family history society, in this case Berkshire Family History Society can help you delve into the history of your family no mater where they come from. Karen's family come from Rochdale. Do listen, especially if you want to know how Berkshire FHS can help with ancestors who did not live or work in Berkshire. Jocie

Hello everyone Just wondering whether anyone has ever heard of this church? I've been ploughing through some early Bedford wills lately (surname, not the place-name) and have hit a brick wall with one dated 1509 who wishes to be buried in the "church or churchyard of Saint James de Pole", but no reference anywhere in the will as to where it was written, or where the church was located. The only reference revealed by google is that there was a very influential family in earlier times called Le Pole/De La Pole, eventually dukes of Suffolk amongst other things. The website states that there was an abbey of De La Pole, and that the "3rd Earl's wife endowed the church of Ewelme [Berkshire], with its adjoining hospital and grammar school". Googling "Ewelme Church" confirms that it was built in the 1400s by the De La Poles. Was it also known as "St James"? I don't know the area well enough and desperately need to place this particular John Bedford, whose will it was. I would be very grateful for any help! Regards Frances (Bedford) Internet Security tips and offers from Tiscali - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/security _______________________________________________________________________

The Vale of the White Horse Branch, Berkshire Family History Society will be having a Meeting on Monday 19 October. When our speaker will be Dr Gill White who's talk will be about 'Bess of Hardwick and Hardwick Hall'. Gill studied History at Exeter University, then Medieval Studies at York and has a PhD at Warwick on Hardwick Hall. She has worked as Curator/ Collections manager for the National Trust at Hardwick Hall until 2001. She is now a freelance lecturer, including Continuing Education teaching at Oxford, Bristol and Warwick Universities. This talk will be of interest to anyone interested in Tudor history. The meeting will start at 7.30pm and will be held as usual at Long Furlong Community Centre, Boulter Drive, Abingdon. Where there is ample free parking. Everyone welcome. Regards Sue Matthews Chairman/Programme Secretary Vale of the White Horse Branch, Berkshire Family History Society

Hi Forbes You may have a little more success if you give some time periods for your surnames, we have been here a while you know <g> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > Hi All: I have the following surnames in my family tree, would like to > hear from anyone with the same > > interest. > > > > KEATE- Hagbourne Area > > WEST Hagbourne Area > > ARMSTRONG - Hagbourne area > > HARWOOD - Streatley Area and Anne Arundel Co, Maryland USA > > ALLEN - Hagbourne Area > > HADHAM - Hagbourne Area > > > > All the best > > > > Forbes (Colorado)

Hi All: I have the following surnames in my family tree, would like to hear from anyone with the same interest. KEATE- Hagbourne Area WEST Hagbourne Area ARMSTRONG - Hagbourne area HARWOOD - Streatley Area and Anne Arundel Co, Maryland USA ALLEN - Hagbourne Area HADHAM - Hagbourne Area All the best Forbes (Colorado) _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/

Jim, Perhaps if you gave people the details of ALL you know - their names & relative dates someone may be able to help. Jocie > Mr. Gaskell, > > Thank you for your prompt reply and the information. It is very much > appreciated. I will read the information on the Oxfordshire Burial Index. > Thank you for the address. > > Unfortunately, I do not know where the persons were living after their > marriages. This is the reason I gave the dates and addresses for the > christenings and marriages. > > Because both dates were in Berkshire I assumed, not the smartest thing to > do, that the odds of them dying > in Berkshire was a valid assumption. From the replies I received, lucky > for > me, the assumption in this case, was correct. They were found in > Speenhandland, Boxford and South Hinksey. Two were not found, Paynton and > Hes (sic). Hes can be spelled Hess, Heese, Hese etc. > > Warm personal regards, > > Jim WARD > MS USA > >

What are you doing next Tuesday? Do you live with driving distance of Reading? Have you ever visited an archive? Would you like to learn more about the type of records held at the BRO? Would you like help with some of your current hurdles/brickwalls? Have you any computer problems? Help is at hand next Tuesday evening- the BRO are open to all (why not bring a friend?) between 6pm and 8pm. This is for all with Berkshire interests.The BerksFHS and BRO staff will be on hand to answer questions, show you how things are located and where to find them. Original documents can't be produced on the evening, but it will give you a head start for your next visit. Then pop across the road and go into our Research Centre which is open from 6pm right up until 9.30pm - it is so close you can't possibly get wet even if it is pouring down. Two visits for just one journey. And you know what they say - Use It or Lose It - the BRO are really putting themselves out for US. Do come along and support this joint initiative.

Mr. Gaskell, Thank you for your prompt reply and the information. It is very much appreciated. I will read the information on the Oxfordshire Burial Index. Thank you for the address. Unfortunately, I do not know where the persons were living after their marriages. This is the reason I gave the dates and addresses for the christenings and marriages. Because both dates were in Berkshire I assumed, not the smartest thing to do, that the odds of them dying in Berkshire was a valid assumption. From the replies I received, lucky for me, the assumption in this case, was correct. They were found in Speenhandland, Boxford and South Hinksey. Two were not found, Paynton and Hes (sic). Hes can be spelled Hess, Heese, Hese etc. Warm personal regards, Jim WARD MS USA ----- Original Message ----- From: <PaulGask@aol.com> To: <Berkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [BRK] Berkshire Burial Index vs IGI > > In a message dated 06/10/2009 16:12:30 GMT Daylight Time, > jimone2@telepak.net writes: > > Is there a Berkshire list member that has access to the Berkshire Burial > Index? > > >

Mr, Stevenson, Thank you for the information on Goddard and Westbury. It is very much appreciated. This helps me with completing the family history. Warm personal regards, Jim WARD MS USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Stevenson" <a.d.s@btinternet.com> To: <berkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 3:39 AM Subject: Re: [BRK] BERKSHIRE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 229 > Response to Jim Ward MS USA > > > > Possible Berkshire deaths > > > > Sarah Goddard : 1) bur 21Nov1823 [49] Chievely, St Mary the virgin or 2) > bur 28Apr 1852 [77], Speenhamland, St Mary > > Naomi Westbury bur 8 Jan 1863 [77] Boxford, St Andrews > > > > Alan Stevenson Brighton UK > > > > _____ > > From: berkshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:berkshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of berkshire-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: 07 October 2009 08:02 > To: berkshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: BERKSHIRE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 229 > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In a message dated 06/10/2009 16:12:30 GMT Daylight Time, jimone2@telepak.net writes: Is there a Berkshire list member that has access to the Berkshire Burial Index? Jim Whilst you haven't specified what part of Berkshire you're interested in, I did wonder whether the Oxfordshire Burial Index 1538-1851 might be able to help you in this search. This covers the whole of the modern-day - post-1974 - county of Oxfordshire, which includes the area formerly know as North Berkshire. This latter area encompasses places such as Didcot, Wantage, Wallingford, Didcot and Faringdon, as well as the villages in the vicinity. If you think that a search of that index might help you, please post precise details of what you want us to look for. You can find more details of the Oxfordshire Burial Index 1538-1851 itself from :- _http://searches.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/_ (http://searches.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/) I should add that the index is nearing completion, although there are some parishes that have not yet been included - the interactive parish map which is linked to the webpage above gives full details. Best wishes. Paul Gaskell Publicity Officer Oxfordshire Family History Society Website : _www.ofhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk)

Hi, Does anyone know of the origins of Willam & Sarah HARRIS who had a family in West Shefford in the 1790s and early 1800s? In 1841William is listed as being born in Berks c.1761-6. Thanks

If you look at the coverage graphs for freeBMD you will see that the last quater of 1845 is about 98% completer. Since the records are probably dealt with alphabetically it is likey tha t the page for Winkworth is still to be transcribed. Perhaps you should recheck FreeBMD in a few months. Regards Peter Goggin On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 05:45 -0400, Vronia15@aol.com wrote: > Hi, > All the recent discussion re FreeBMD transcriptions prompted me to look > again at a similar problem I had a while ago - I had a baptism from IGI for > Jesse Winkworth on 29 September 1945 at Oare, Berkshire (parents David and > Emma) which looked OK in relation to the 1851 Census showing Jesse aged 5 in > Newbury Union Workhouse, but could not find a birth registration. > Eventually I found the registration in Oct-Nov-Dec 1845 by browsing the indexes on > findmypast.com. It looks as if this page has been missed on FreeBMD as I > have tried searching for some other names on the page through FreeBMD without > success. However - this is NOT meant to be a moan about FreeBMD - they have > given us a marvellous resource for which I am most grateful. I guess it's > just a case of 'no-one's perfect'. > > Anyway, finding Jesse Winkworth's birth certificate is not the end of my > problems. While his baptism is given on IGI as 29 September 1845, the date of > his birth is given on the certificate as 2 October 1845. As I don't really > think pre-natal baptism is very likely I suspect this is an error in the > IGI transcription (though I suppose Jesse's mother could have got the date > wrong when registering the birth in Novemer 1845). Is there some kind person > who could check the Oare parish records for me and perhaps solve this > conundrum? If so I'd be most grateful. > > Veronica > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Coleman" <Jeff.Coleman@ntlworld.com> > Always check with the original scan images if an entry is significant to > you. Indeed. I should have done that - and didn't. My apologies to Daryl also. best Anne H.

Thank you very much for the explanation. Garry > > I thought you meant there were two entries in the freebmd transcript in this > case there is just one as usual > > The reason you find two transcribers is that some entries have been > transcribed more than once, in this case they have keyed exactly the same > information from scans of the very same page of the GRO index > <snip> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4485 (20091006) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

Thank you for your message. The entry I am referring to is a Birth June 1838 Qtr of an Anne STRATTON.(Reg. Newbury). . Garry > > Its not unusual and no there are not two entries to transcribe from > > It probably means there is a digit different in the transcriptions > > If you let me know the detail in particular I will take a look at it > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > >> Hi >> >> As the subject of FreeBMD is current I have a question. >> >> Contained in a quarter I am looking at, the Birth entry is only listed >> once but two people are shown as having transcribed it. Is there another >> entry somewhere or is this normal? >> >> Thanks and hope I haven't confused you >> Garry >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4485 (20091006) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4485 (20091006) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

I have advised Veronica off-list that there is a run of 11 pages starting with Wi... not yet transcribed in 1845 December births on FreeBMD, and how to access the image in question via the 'View Images' route on FreeBMD home page. Several of these images are rather hard to read, which may well be why transcription was delayed. I have also advised the relevant people in FreeBMD that these pages are not yet transcribed. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: <Vronia15@aol.com> To: <berkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [BRK] Baptism before birth? > Thanks Peter - you're quite right, I should have checked the coverage > charts. I'm not sure the alphabetical theory works though, because I've > searched > for an alphabetically 'later' name in the same quarter and found it on > FreeBMD. > > Regards, Veronica > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Actually the June quarter 1844 entry for William HONEY apparently in Hungerford was actually a mistranscription - the entry was really in Wallingford registration district, page 257. Always check with the original scan images if an entry is significant to you. I have submitted a correction request for this entry. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "ath" <higham@clara.net> To: <berkshire@rootsweb.com>; <dlphistory@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [BRK] Birth record missing from FreeBMD? > > > Daryl ~ I approached this from a slightly different angle. > > Since Lambourn was in the Registration District of Hungerford, I searched > FreeBMD for all registered Honey Births in that R.D.... and this is the > result. > > HONEY Births in Hungerford Reg.Dist. SQ1837-DQ1851 > SQ 1837 Male 6 151 > MQ 1838 Eli 6 191 > JQ 1839 Henry 6 212 > MQ 1841 James 6 205 > JQ 1844 William 6 25 > DQ 1845 David 11 45 > DQ 1845 David 6 178 > SQ 1848 Septimus Andrew 6 203 > JQ 1849 Martha 6 209 > DQ 1850 Eleanor 6 221 > > Most of these accord with your Honey family the 1851 census.... except > William & > Martha. I cannot find William in the 1851 census, neither can I find him > in > the FreeBMD Death Indexes. > > On that basis, could it be that William above is actually your Ambrose? > > best > Anne Higham > researching LYFORD surname worldwide > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I saw the later e-mail saying William was a transcription error but you are correct that most of the births are siblings and the rest are known cousins. I also got a few interesting ideas to try from some of the other e-mails. Thanks to everyone for your suggestions. Daryl On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:32 AM, ath <higham@clara.net> wrote: > > > Daryl ~ I approached this from a slightly different angle. > > Since Lambourn was in the Registration District of Hungerford, I searched > FreeBMD for all registered Honey Births in that R.D.... and this is the > result. > > HONEY Births in Hungerford Reg.Dist. SQ1837-DQ1851 > SQ 1837 Male 6 151 > MQ 1838 Eli 6 191 > JQ 1839 Henry 6 212 > MQ 1841 James 6 205 > JQ 1844 William 6 25 > DQ 1845 David 11 45 > DQ 1845 David 6 178 > SQ 1848 Septimus Andrew 6 203 > JQ 1849 Martha 6 209 > DQ 1850 Eleanor 6 221 > > Most of these accord with your Honey family the 1851 census.... except > William & > Martha. I cannot find William in the 1851 census, neither can I find him in > the FreeBMD Death Indexes. > > On that basis, could it be that William above is actually your Ambrose? > > best > Anne Higham > researching LYFORD surname worldwide > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi As the subject of FreeBMD is current I have a question. Contained in a quarter I am looking at, the Birth entry is only listed once but two people are shown as having transcribed it. Is there another entry somewhere or is this normal? Thanks and hope I haven't confused you Garry __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4485 (20091006) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

Thanks Peter - you're quite right, I should have checked the coverage charts. I'm not sure the alphabetical theory works though, because I've searched for an alphabetically 'later' name in the same quarter and found it on FreeBMD. Regards, Veronica