>From World ( 1787 ) ( London, England ), Friday, February 22, 1793; Issue 1920. MARRIED Yesterday, by Special License, at St. George's, Hanover-square, the Hon. Capt. WINDSOR, of the Royal Navy, brother to the Earl of Plymouth, to Miss BAGNALL, daughter of John BAGNALL, Esq., of Early Court, Berks.

Hi Tomas Thank you for your reply. I hope that, like you, I will be lucky and get some more information on Sarah Ann NETHERCLIFT Paula ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tomas Christie" <tomas_christie@yahoo.co.uk> To: <berkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [BRK] Brookwood I would just add to the previous answers. I had reason to follow up a patient at Brookwood and I was very impressed by the quick and helpful answers I was given by the staff at the Surrey History Centre. The records are very good. I found that the patient I was interested in had been moved from asylum to asylum, but the records were equally informative for them all, so it is worth pursuing. Tomas Christie. ________________________________ From: Ann Sargeant <ann.sargeant@ntlworld.com> To: "BERKSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com" <BERKSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, 10 February, 2010 17:32:44 Subject: Re: [BRK] Brookwood From: "Paula" <p.ath@virgin.net> > Does anyone know if Brookwood asylum was also a normal hospital ? > I have a SARAH Anne NETHERCLIFT who died there in 1871. Her > occupation is down as a needlewoman. Do you think this means she > was just working there as a needlewoman or she was an "inmate" ? > Are there any records of who was there? > Paula Hello Paula In the 1870s Brookwood was a hospital for the mentally ill - although the reasons then why folk were there would not necessarily accord with the modern definition of mental illness. Sadly many perfectly well people were put into asylums in the past. The original concept of Brookwood was that all the patients worked in the various departments of the asylum. There's a very good outline here: http://www.surreycc.gov.uk/sccwebsite/sccwspages.nsf/LookupWebPagesByTITLE_RTF/Brookwood+Hospital+Woking?opendocument Records are at Surrey History Centre in Woking, and there has been much past discussion on the Surrey Rootsweb List so you might also find the archives there useful. Ann Hampshire, UK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2679 - Release Date: 02/10/10 07:40:00

Hi Ann Thank you for your reply. I will certainly contact Surrey. I had hoped that by getting her death certificate I might get her address and next of kin! Paula ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Sargeant" <ann.sargeant@ntlworld.com> To: "BERKSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com" <BERKSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [BRK] Brookwood > From: "Paula" <p.ath@virgin.net> >> Does anyone know if Brookwood asylum was also a normal hospital ? >> I have a SARAH Anne NETHERCLIFT who died there in 1871. Her >> occupation is down as a needlewoman. Do you think this means she >> was just working there as a needlewoman or she was an "inmate" ? >> Are there any records of who was there? >> Paula > > Hello Paula > > In the 1870s Brookwood was a hospital for the mentally ill - although the > reasons then why folk were there would not necessarily accord with the > modern definition of mental illness. Sadly many perfectly well people > were > put into asylums in the past. The original concept of Brookwood was that > all the patients worked in the various departments of the asylum. > > There's a very good outline here: > http://www.surreycc.gov.uk/sccwebsite/sccwspages.nsf/LookupWebPagesByTITLE_RTF/Brookwood+Hospital+Woking?opendocument > > Records are at Surrey History Centre in Woking, and there has been much > past > discussion on the Surrey Rootsweb List so you might also find the archives > there useful. > > Ann > Hampshire, UK > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2679 - Release Date: 02/10/10 07:40:00

Hi Barbara Thank you for your reply. I will certainly try to perit by contacting the Surrey History Centre. Paula ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> To: <berkshire@rootsweb.com>; "berks mailing list" <BERKSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [BRK] Fw: Brookwood > Hi Paula, > > Brookwood Hospital, Knaphill, Surrey was always for the mentally ill, > an asylum, it close in 1994. > > Go into GOOGLE and enter Brookwood Hospital Surrey, there is a good > write-up about it, also a picture. > > I would think that if Sarah Ann died in Brookwood Hospital, that she > would have been an inmate, perhaps is she did needle work, to occupy > her mind, something she had previously done when she was well. > > Any records for the hospital, would possibly now be at the Surrey > History Centre, Woking, Surrey. > > Surrey History Centre > 130 Goldsworth Road > Woking, GU21 6ND, United Kingdom > 01483 518 737 > www.surreycc.gov.uk > > Kind regards > > Barbara Lewis Mallyon > Basingstoke, Hants. UK > BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paula" <p.ath@virgin.net> > To: "berks mailing list" <BERKSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:36 PM > Subject: [BRK] Fw: Brookwood> >> >> Does anyone know if Brookwood asylum was also a normal hospital ? >> I have a SARAH Anne NETHERCLIFT who died there in 1871. Her >> occupation is down as a needlewoman. Do you think this means she >> was just working there as a needlewoman or she was an "inmate" ? >> Are there any records of who was there? >> Paula > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2679 - Release Date: > 02/10/10 07:40:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2679 - Release Date: 02/10/10 07:40:00

Looking for any descendants of Robert COLE, born 1868 in Wokingham. Married Mary Ann COTTRELL in 1894, and still living in Easthampstead in 1911. Robert was the s/o Henry Cole and Martha nee BROOKER. Any connections please get in touch. Regards Dianne Researching PHILLIPS, TREWARTHA, NANKIVELL, CORNWALL MAYNARD, BERKSHIRE HOSKINS, SOMERSET. VORT WORLD WIDE

I would just add to the previous answers.  I had reason to follow up a patient at Brookwood and I was very impressed by the quick and helpful answers I was given by the staff at the Surrey History Centre.  The records are very good.  I found that the patient I was interested in had been moved from asylum to asylum, but the records were equally informative for them all, so it is worth pursuing. Tomas Christie. ________________________________ From: Ann Sargeant <ann.sargeant@ntlworld.com> To: "BERKSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com" <BERKSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, 10 February, 2010 17:32:44 Subject: Re: [BRK] Brookwood From: "Paula" <p.ath@virgin.net> > Does anyone know if Brookwood asylum was also a normal  hospital ? > I have a SARAH Anne NETHERCLIFT who died there in 1871.  Her > occupation is down as a needlewoman.  Do you think this means she > was just working there as a needlewoman or she was an "inmate" ? > Are there any records of who was there? > Paula Hello Paula In the 1870s Brookwood was a hospital for the mentally ill  - although the reasons then why folk were there would not necessarily accord with the modern definition of mental illness.  Sadly many perfectly well people were put into asylums in the past.  The original concept of Brookwood was that all the patients worked in the various departments of the asylum. There's a very good outline here: http://www.surreycc.gov.uk/sccwebsite/sccwspages.nsf/LookupWebPagesByTITLE_RTF/Brookwood+Hospital+Woking?opendocument Records are at Surrey History Centre in Woking, and there has been much past discussion on the Surrey Rootsweb List so you might also find the archives there useful. Ann Hampshire, UK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From: "Paula" <p.ath@virgin.net> > Does anyone know if Brookwood asylum was also a normal hospital ? > I have a SARAH Anne NETHERCLIFT who died there in 1871. Her > occupation is down as a needlewoman. Do you think this means she > was just working there as a needlewoman or she was an "inmate" ? > Are there any records of who was there? > Paula Hello Paula In the 1870s Brookwood was a hospital for the mentally ill - although the reasons then why folk were there would not necessarily accord with the modern definition of mental illness. Sadly many perfectly well people were put into asylums in the past. The original concept of Brookwood was that all the patients worked in the various departments of the asylum. There's a very good outline here: http://www.surreycc.gov.uk/sccwebsite/sccwspages.nsf/LookupWebPagesByTITLE_RTF/Brookwood+Hospital+Woking?opendocument Records are at Surrey History Centre in Woking, and there has been much past discussion on the Surrey Rootsweb List so you might also find the archives there useful. Ann Hampshire, UK

Hi Paula, Brookwood Hospital, Knaphill, Surrey was always for the mentally ill, an asylum, it close in 1994. Go into GOOGLE and enter Brookwood Hospital Surrey, there is a good write-up about it, also a picture. I would think that if Sarah Ann died in Brookwood Hospital, that she would have been an inmate, perhaps is she did needle work, to occupy her mind, something she had previously done when she was well. Any records for the hospital, would possibly now be at the Surrey History Centre, Woking, Surrey. Surrey History Centre 130 Goldsworth Road Woking, GU21 6ND, United Kingdom 01483 518 737 www.surreycc.gov.uk Kind regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula" <p.ath@virgin.net> To: "berks mailing list" <BERKSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:36 PM Subject: [BRK] Fw: Brookwood> > > Does anyone know if Brookwood asylum was also a normal hospital ? > I have a SARAH Anne NETHERCLIFT who died there in 1871. Her > occupation is down as a needlewoman. Do you think this means she > was just working there as a needlewoman or she was an "inmate" ? > Are there any records of who was there? > Paula No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2679 - Release Date: 02/10/10 07:40:00

Does anyone know if Brookwood asylum was also a normal hospital ? I have a SARAH Anne NETHERCLIFT who died there in 1871. Her occupation is down as a needlewoman. Do you think this means she was just working there as a needlewoman or she was an "inmate" ? Are there any records of who was there? Paula

Does anyone know if Brookwood asylum was also a normal hospital ? I have a SARAH Anne NETHERCLIFT who died there in 1871. Her occupation is down as a needlewoman. Do you think this means she was just working there as a needlewoman or she was an "inmate" ? Are there any records of who was there? Paula

>From London Evening Post ( London, England ), Tuesday, April 26, 1774; Issue 8126. This morning was married at Eton College chapel, Mr. WISE, jun. attorney-at-law at Wokingham, Berks, to Miss POTE, daughter of Mr. POTE, of Eton.

Way back in July last I was looking for this marriage at St Helen's, Abingdon. Bob Burns kindly looked through the Oxfordshire FHS cd for Abingdon and was unable to find it, and I left it as a puzzle to be solved. I'm writing now to report success! The archivist at St Helen's confirmed thsat the marriage was not recorded there, but I have at last seen the cd and the marriage is, after all, at St Nicholas' Abingdon and I've been able to move a further generation back with the family. Happy hunting, Pete Dale

Colleagues The next computer meeting of the Oxfordshire Family History Society will take place on Monday 8 February 2009. It will be held at the usual venue at Exeter Hall, Oxford Road, Kidlington, Oxford OX5 1AB. Doors open at 7.15pm for a 7.30pm start. The subject of the talk at 7.30pm is :- "Why have a computer? What can it do for you?". All members, potential members and their guests are welcome to attend the meeting. For directions as to how to get to the Exeter Hall, please see :- _http://www.ofhs.org.uk/ExeterHall.html_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk/ExeterHall.html) For a list of future OFHS meetings, please see :- _http://www.ofhs.org.uk/meetings.html_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk/meetings.html) Any queries, please contact me off-list. Paul Gaskell Publicity Officer Oxfordshire Family History Society Website : _www.ofhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk)

The Vale of the White Horse Branch, Berkshire Family History Society will be having a Meeting on Monday 15 February 2010. When Kathy Chater will be making a welcome return to our branch to tell us all about 'Coroners' Inquests'. The meeting will start at 7.30pm and will be held as usual at Long Furlong Community Centre, Boulter Drive, Abingdon. Where there is ample free parking. Everyone welcome. Regards Sue Matthews Chairman/Programme Secretary Vale of the White Horse Branch, Berkshire Family History Society

>From Jackson's Oxford Journal, Saturday, June 29, 1822; Issue 3609. A most melancholy and fatal accident happened on Tuesday last to Mr. W illiam DAVIS, of Abingdon. He returned home in his gig in the evening, from his farm at Radley, with some of his children, and as they were alighting, it is supposed that one of them, with the foot, touched the trigger of a double-barrelled gun, which went off, and lodged the whole contents in the body of Mr. DAVIS, and he died almost on the spot. It appears he was so attached to his gun that he scarcely ever went from home without it. He was a Gentleman universally beloved and respected, and his relatives and connexions have lost in him the affectionate husband and tender parent, and a warm-hearted and sincere friend. He has left a disconsolate widow and seven children to lament his loss. On Wednesday an inquest was held before J. F. SPENLOVE, Esq., coroner for the borough. Verdict " Accidental Death. "

>From Whitehall Evening Post or London Intelligencer ( London, England ), Saturday, August 12, 1749; Issue 548. DEAD. Thursday died at Bingham, near Reading in Berkshire, Richard HOPKINS, Esq., Recorder of that Corporation.

great to get the smith info ----- Original Message ----- From: "Therese Family" <familytherese@yahoo.co.uk> To: <berkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:55 AM Subject: Re: [BRK] BERKSHIRE Digest, Vol 5,Issue 18 (Was: Waltham St Lawrence PRs - Richard CARTER and wifeSusannah...) The three main families which seem to be intertwined with cousin mariages, etc in that 1/4 of my tree are WHEELER, CARTER and LONG, all in the Binfield and Waltham St Lawrence area, but also with marriages in Clewer, Wokingham and possibly Hurst. There is also Elizabeth KNIBB c1776 (from Warwickshire, possibly Leek Wootton). Going further back there are also ATTYs and DOWLINGs and possibly WILLABY. I'm still not sure where any of these families came from prior to about 1750, although if anyone has the parish BMD records for Binfield or Waltham St Lawrence in the 1700s I'd be very grateful if they could spot anything for WHEELER, LONG, CARTER, ATTY and DOWLING - especially if any of the PRs have the sort of notes sometimes added mentioning people who come from other parishes! One of the problems with Binfield is that there were a lot of large houses and a lot of servants from all over the country (like Elizabeth KNIBB) who married into poorer local families and seem to "come from nowhere" in the records. I have no idea what Susannah <CARTER>'s maiden name was. There are some SMITHs in the 1801 Binfield Census, but no FOXes, otherwise I know nothing about those two names. (I'll send you the Smith stuff directly.) Therese. Message: 2 Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:45:18 -0800 From: "John and Myrna Bailey" <jmbailey@hwy16.com> Subject: Re: [BRK] BERKSHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 18 To: <berkshire@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <5C6EAF0066B04D088C012141C7B74B6E@Bailey> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Would your Carter have married into a Smith family? and would you have a Fox married a Smith?? ----- Original Message ----- From: <berkshire-request@rootsweb.com> To: <berkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 12:03 AM Subject: BERKSHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 18 > > 1. Binfield PRs - Questions about LONG and ATTY in mid-1700s. > (Therese Family) > 2. Waltham St Lawrence PRs - Richard CARTER and wife Susannah - > mid 1700s. (Therese Family)

Excerpts Taken from Jackson's Oxford Journal Sat. 14th July 1849 Thomas FORD a postman, charged with having on the 19th of May at the parish of St. Mary Reading, stolen a letter and a half-crown, the property of her Majesty's Postmaster-General, was sentenced to 10 years' transportation. Thomas Fred. WOODLEY, charged with having at St. Giles, Reading, broken and entered the dwelling house of John DIBLEY, and stolen therein one coat and various other articles, his property, was sentenced to 12 months' imprisonment. Lea[-] BRUNSDEN, charged with having on the 30th of November at Purley stolen a brooch value 5s the property of John SIMMONS, was acquitted. Henry HOWARD and John WHITE, charged with having on the 8th of July at East Ilsely stolen one gallon loaf, three-quarters lb. of cheese and half lb. of butter, the property fo Wm BROWN; and 2lbs. of mutton and half lb. of butter the property of Richard BROWN were sentenced to 18 months' imprisonment and hard labour. No bills were found against Maria TARRANT charged with the wilful murder of a new-born male child; and Michael FITZGERALD charged with having set fire to a stack of oats at Woodley. Alfred POINTER charged with stealing half a crown the property of Thos BENHAM of Hurst was convicted and sentenced to 6 weeks' imprisonment with hard labour. Samuel OLIVER charged with stealing two cows the property of George BAILEY of Old Windsor was convicted and sentenced to 18 months' imprisonment and hard labour. Jas. WARE was charged with a criminal assault on Hannah PRIOR at Wokingham on 16th of March. (further details) Child Murder: Mary JOHNSON who was tried and convicted on Tuesday was sentenced to 12 months' imprisonment and hard labour. Diane J. Researching George Henry PRICE of Herefordshire who lived from 1880-1925 at 52 Peach Street, Wokingham (and none of above!)

The next meeting of the Reading Branch of the Berkshire Family History Society will be held at the usual venue - The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 280 The Meadway, Tilehurst, Reading, RG30 4PE, on Thursday, 25th February 2010. The doors open at 7:15 for 7:45 pm. Alan Johnson will be explaining about the Family History Centre at the LDS Church, what they have available and how to use their facilities. Afterwards, there will be a short visit to the Centre for those interested. There will also be the usual Help Desk, Bookstall and Exchange Magazine Library. Everyone is welcome at our meetings, you do not have to be a member of our Society, so why not bring your friends along? Hope to see you at the meeting. Vicki Chesterman Programme Secretary Reading Branch, BFHS

Colleagues The New Year is really with us on Sunday 31 January 2010 when the annual Bracknell Family History Fair takes place. Traditionally, this event sees the commencement of the year's family history calendar, and is the largest Sunday family history fair held in the UK, with some two-hundred or so stalls in attendance. I'm delighted to report that Oxfordshire FHS will have its usual stall at this Fair, when we will be selling our CDs and some items from our bookstall. In addition, we will have our "Search Services" available on computer, featuring an array of Oxfordshire and North Berkshire indexes to censuses, baptism registers, marriage registers, burial registers and monumental inscriptions. Those researchers wishing to plan their visit to our stall in advance can view our resources on the following webpages :- CD sales ; _http://www.ofhs.org.uk/CDsales.html_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk/CDsales.html) bookstall ; _http://www.ofhs.org.uk/books.html_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk/books.html) Search Services ; _http://searches.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/_ (http://searches.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/) The Bracknell Family History Fair takes place on Sunday 31 January 2010 at Bracknell Sports and Leisure Centre, Bagshot Road (A322), Bracknell, Berkshire RG12 9SE. The doors open at 10.00am. Further details about the Fair itself from :- _http://www.familyhistoryfairs.org/_ (http://www.familyhistoryfairs.org/) Best wishes. Paul Gaskell Publicity Officer Oxfordshire Family History Society Web : _www.ofhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk/)