Richard was buried in 1637. Alternatively, are you descended from Bartholomew Perrott died Erlestoke 1581, or from Conquer Parrat baptised Evenlode 1675, or maybe from Simon Perrott of Oxford whose will was proven in 1584, or possibly from John Parratt, yeoman of Luton, who wrote his will in 1620.  Would you like to meet others from your family?  Or maybe you belong to one of the other groups of Parrotts, Porrits, Perrets from Lincolnshire, Buckinghamshire, Devon, London or elsewhere and want to find more about your ancestors.  If so, the P-rr-tt Society will be meeting in Rowde near Devizes in Wiltshire on Saturday May 15.  If you are interested in the name Parrott, Perrett, Porrit or any of the variations of the name then do join us in the Village Hall, Rowde, 10.00am -.4.00pm.  Enjoy access to our paper archive, including our large collection of wills, or obtain help to get started with your family history.  Further details are available from Janet Flanagan on 01793 523048.  Lunch may be booked.  See http://www.p-rr-tt.org.uk for further details.

Dear Listers I sent the request below in January. Since then I have received his death certificate from the GRO. It reads: William George Cox of 5 Jubilee Cottages, Rose lane, Dedworth, Clewer Without, died on 30 November 1925. He was 71 (born 1854) and a retired Metropolitan Police Constable. His son, William Victor James Cox was the informant. Hoping that this extra information helps. With thanks, Margaret "I am looking for a William Cox who lived at 5 Jubilee Cottage in Dedworth Green, Windsor in 1902 (address given in a letter to a cousin in Australia). He reputedly ran a pub there and was an ex-policeman (neither confirmed). Any information gratefully received. Margaret Nichols (Canberra, Australia)"

Births Jun 1883   (>99%) ________________________________ COX  William Victor J    Windsor  2c 457 Mike ________________________________ From: Margaret Nichols <mnichols@netspeed.com.au> To: berkshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 23 March, 2010 9:39:54 AM Subject: [BRK] William Cox of Dedworth Green Dear Listers I sent the request below in January.  Since then I have received his death certificate from the GRO.  It reads: William George Cox of 5 Jubilee Cottages, Rose lane, Dedworth, Clewer Without, died on 30 November 1925. He was 71 (born 1854) and a retired Metropolitan Police Constable. His son, William Victor James Cox was the informant. Hoping that this extra information helps. With thanks, Margaret  "I am looking for a William Cox who lived at 5 Jubilee Cottage in Dedworth Green, Windsor in 1902 (address given in a letter to a cousin in Australia). He reputedly ran a pub there and was an ex-policeman (neither confirmed). Any information gratefully received. Margaret Nichols (Canberra, Australia)" ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Births Jun 1854   (99%) ________________________________ COX  William George    Windsor  2c 385 Mike ________________________________ From: Margaret Nichols <mnichols@netspeed.com.au> To: berkshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 23 March, 2010 9:39:54 AM Subject: [BRK] William Cox of Dedworth Green Dear Listers I sent the request below in January.  Since then I have received his death certificate from the GRO.  It reads: William George Cox of 5 Jubilee Cottages, Rose lane, Dedworth, Clewer Without, died on 30 November 1925. He was 71 (born 1854) and a retired Metropolitan Police Constable. His son, William Victor James Cox was the informant. Hoping that this extra information helps. With thanks, Margaret  "I am looking for a William Cox who lived at 5 Jubilee Cottage in Dedworth Green, Windsor in 1902 (address given in a letter to a cousin in Australia). He reputedly ran a pub there and was an ex-policeman (neither confirmed). Any information gratefully received. Margaret Nichols (Canberra, Australia)" ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nivard wrote: If there is one thing I have learned with family history its to expect the unexpected <g> Tell Me About It!!!!! You've helped me with some of my unexpected's, Nivard, boy is this the truth! <G> Regards, Jon

Thanks for the thought I will certainly keep it in mind If there is one thing I have learned with family history its to expect the unexpected <g> I have only just picked up this line after some years so its quite fresh as yet but there are few of them remaining it seems unless I can identify the two girls who may have married and spawned a new generation, albeit under a different name Time will tell I guess Thanks for the input Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Nivard, Not sure if you are going to like this but over in Kent I was > looking at SPARKS family. There was also a PARKS family and the two > families kept getting mixed up. It got so bad I eventually gave up with > them. I hope you don't run into this problem but it may be worth keeping > an > eye out for PARKS.. > >> ---------------------------------------- >> 1. SPARKS of Cookham (Nivard Ovington)

Hi Nivard, Not sure if you are going to like this but over in Kent I was looking at SPARKS family. There was also a PARKS family and the two families kept getting mixed up. It got so bad I eventually gave up with them. I hope you don't run into this problem but it may be worth keeping an eye out for PARKS.. > ---------------------------------------- > 1. SPARKS of Cookham (Nivard Ovington)

Dear all Seeking help on the SPARKS of Cookham Are there burial indexes available ? I am looking for a burial for Elizabeth SPARKS (1796 to 1800) and a son Thomas SPARKS (1793 to 1803) I have a marriage in 1783 for a Thomas SPARKS to Elizabeth ADAMS at Wraysbury, Thomas noted as of Taplow Bucks I knew they had a Mary and an Elizabeth and that by 1803 at least Elizabeth had died Looking for children of a Thomas and Elizabeth SPARKS I found MARY SPARKS Christening: 25 OCT 1789 Cookham, Berkshire, England Father: THOMAS SPARKS Mother: ELIZABETH P008651 1563 - 1812 0088236 Film 1235365 Film THOMAS SPARKS Christening: 16 JUN 1793 Cookham, Berkshire, England Father: THOMAS SPARKS Mother: ELIZABETH P008651 1563 - 1812 0088236 Film 1235365 Film ELIZABETH SPARKS Christening: 04 NOV 1796 Cookham, Berkshire, England Father: THOMAS SPARKS Mother: ELIZABETH P008651 1563 - 1812 0088236 Film 1235365 Film Elizabeths fathers will states "my late daughter Elizabeth SPARKS" so she was deceased by 1803 Which fits conveniently with Text: Thomas Sparks of prsh of Cookham Berks & Susannah Dee of this parish banns 04 Aug 1800 Book: Marriages (Marriage) Collection: Berkshire: Bisham - Parish Register, 1560-1812 THOMAS SPARKS Christening: 09 AUG 1801 Cookham, Berkshire, England Father: THOMAS SPARKS Mother: SUSANNAH P008651 1563 - 1812 0088236 Film 1235365 Film EDWARD SPARKS Christening: 19 JAN 1806 Cookham, Berkshire, England Father: THOMAS SPARKS Mother: SUSANNAH P008651 1563 - 1812 0088236 Film 1235365 Film With that as a possibility I would ask why no children from the marriage in 1783 to 1789 ? Could have been baptised somewhere not on the IGI and died young perhaps I am always very wary of convenient families like this so am seeking further proof of their connection I found a will on the National Archives so speculatively bought it as follows Edward Sparks 1831 This is the last will and testament of Edward Sparks of Bray Berks Miller. I Edward Sparks of Bray Berks Miller being of sound and disposing mind make this my last will and testament whereby I give and bequeath to my dear Brother Thomas Sparks of the Parish of Cookham Berks I Edward Sparks whereby I give twenty pounds and all my wearing apparel I Edward Sparks whereby I give and bequeath to Jury? (Amy?) Wilson all my property of what kind and nature soever I also nominate and appoint Jury Wilson whole & sole Executrix of this my will dated the twenty third day of November in the year of out Lord One Thousand Eight Hundred and Thirty Edward Sparks - signed sealed declared and published by the above named Edward Sparks as and for his last will and testament in the presence? of us who at his request and in his presence have subscribed our names as witnesses thereto William Austin Thomas Brown Proved at London 14th July 1831 before the Judge by the Oath of Jury (Amy?) Wilson spinster the sole Executrix to whom administration was granted having been first sworn by Commission duly to administer I have found possible 1841 & 1851 census entries for Edward & Thomas but not Mary or Elizabeth who may of course have married If anyone could help with burials or indeed any other information on the SPARKS I would be most grateful Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Colleagues The next meeting of the Oxfordshire Family History Society will take place on Monday 22 March 2010. It will be held at the usual venue at Exeter Hall, Oxford Road, Kidlington, Oxford OX5 1AB. Doors open at 7.15 pm for coffee, help with both genealogy and computers, and the bookstall. The subject of the talk at 8.00pm is "Your Ancestors, Population and Birth Control", which will be presented by Colin Chapman. Colin has been a well-known face on the family history circuit for some forty years, and an informative evening is guaranteed. All members, potential members and their guests are welcome. For directions as to how to get to the Exeter Hall, please see :- _http://www.ofhs.org.uk/ExeterHall.html_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk/ExeterHall.html) For a list of future OFHS meetings, please see :- _http://www.ofhs.org.uk/meetings.html_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk/meetings.html) Any queries, please contact me. Paul Gaskell Publicity Officer Oxfordshire Family History Society _www.ofhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk/)

Wednesday 6 February 1754, John Nixey was apprenticed to William Cox, of Brightwell, Berkshire, wheelwright, for 7 years. The premium paid was £10, and the tax paid was 5 shillings. These details are from the Apprenticeship Tax records found at http://www.theoriginalrecord.com Regards, Jon

Thanks very much for your replies Hugh and Elizabeth. Elizabeth, the surname was NIXY, and the burial was in 1702. No forename given which is a real shame. I was confused by "Shi" as other places such as Garcington were in full on the search results I paid for. Thanks again, best wishes, Jon

You do not give a name but there are several "widow-widower" of Shippon Elizabeth

Jon, I think you have only seen the index! The full entry, which I transcribed for Oxfordshire Family History Society reads "widow of Shippon". See _www.ofhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk) Hugh

Hi listers, I have a burial record in 1702 at St helen, Abingdon where the person is described as "widow of Shi". does anyone know what this may refer to? Thanks, Best wishes, Jon

Another important distinction surely, is that (British) Civil records can be, to a great extent, self-accessed world-wide, whilst PRs (especially post-1837) can't. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Rogers" <brad@fineby.me.uk> To: "Berks ML" <berkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [BRK] Parish Register Transcripts > On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:25:07 +1100 > Michael Lightfoot <michael.lightfoot@pcug.org.au> wrote: >

On Tuesday 16 March 2010 03:33:31 Brad Rogers wrote: > On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:07:20 -0000 > "Jon" <jons.family.tree@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > > Hello Jon, > > > The sad thing is it ends at 1837 which is where my interest begins. Is > > that typical or is that typical > > I know that's probably meant as a rhetorical question, but yes, that is > typical. Why? Because civil registration begins in 1837 and is, > usually, a better source of info than PRs. > I'd contest that. In my experience Civil records only become reliable in the 1850s when it is not only compulsory, but there are sanctions for not registering. CofE Parish records are reliable right up to the present day. In the 19th century they were often a source of additional information not recorded in civil records. Often the comments by bigoted vicars or parish clerks are quite enlightening. :-) -- ==== Michael Lightfoot Canberra, Australia OPC Merther, St Breock & Egloshayle, Cornwall see http://www.cornwall-opc.org michael.lightfoot@pcug.org.au ====

Jon, I have them for Clewer. Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon To: berkshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:04 AM Subject: [BRK] Parish Register Transcripts Hi folks, does anyone know if transcriptions of the Parish records for Clewer and/or Sunninghill are available please? Many thanks, Jon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:25:07 +1100 Michael Lightfoot <michael.lightfoot@pcug.org.au> wrote: Hello Michael, > I'd contest that. In my experience Civil records only become reliable I said "...usually a better source of information..." meaning that DoB was recorded, whereas in PRs that may not be the case. Also, mother's maiden name is noted. Also, unlike PRs, there may be two addresses recorded. One for place of birth and one for normal residence of the informant. The two addresses may be the same, of course. Now, the info recorded on a birth cert may well be total fiction, but it's rarely so. The info in PRs may be more accurate since only the curate/vicar/whoever writes them up, but is often less informative. > in the 1850s when it is not only compulsory, but there are sanctions > for not registering. Sanctions didn't arrive until 1875, but registration was always compulsory. The difference being that prior to 1875 the onus was on the Registrar to ask for the information whereas after 1875 the responsibility was shifted to parents/bereaved to give the information. Mind you, I don't know what the registrar would do if they asked for the details and somebody refused. Just ask again, until the person they were asking got fed up, I suppose. :-) -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" An old custom to sell your daughter Hong Kong Garden - Siouxsie & The Banshees

In a message dated 15/03/2010 21:25:24 GMT Standard Time, michael.lightfoot@pcug.org.au writes: In my experience Civil records only become reliable in the 1850s when it is not only compulsory, but there are sanctions for not registering. Michael I think that you'll find that the sanctions were brought in from 1874. Paul Gaskell Publicity Officer Oxfordshire Family History Society Website : _www.ofhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk)

On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:07:20 -0000 "Jon" <jons.family.tree@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: Hello Jon, > The sad thing is it ends at 1837 which is where my interest begins. Is > that typical or is that typical I know that's probably meant as a rhetorical question, but yes, that is typical. Why? Because civil registration begins in 1837 and is, usually, a better source of info than PRs. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" That's what I call you Heaven Sent - INXS