Hi Margaret Its a good one isn't it I would say that in 1861 its reads Burville and in 1871 its Burvil Neither exist as far as I can tell from Gazeteers etc However searching the IGI for anything like it I found WILLIAM COX Christening: 14 MAY 1797 Burghfield, Berkshire, England Father: JAMES COX Mother: GRACE P017721 1761 - 1837 0088209 Film 1235447 Film Nothing like it in Bucks either as far as I can see For others , the 1861 & 1871 census refs are as follows (as transcribed on Ancestry) 1861 Name: William Cox Age: 64 Estimated birth year: abt 1797 Relation: Wifes Father (Father-in-law) Gender: Male Where born: Burille, Berkshire, England Civil parish: Dedworth Ecclesiastical parish: Clewer St Andrew County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Registration district: Windsor Sub-registration district: Windsor ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 18 Household Members: Name Age George Cox 38 Misa Cox 39 William G Cox 7 William Cox 64 RG9; Piece: 761; Folio: 127; Page: 3 1871 Name: William Cox Age: 74 Estimated birth year: abt 1797 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Darvel, Berkshire, England Civil parish: New Windsor Ecclesiastical parish: Clewer Town: Bedworth County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Registration district: Windsor Sub-registration district: Windsor ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Household schedule number: 38 Household Members: Name Age William Cox 74 RG10; Piece: 1302; Folio: 33; Page: 7 I take it as William COX is enumerated as wifes father they are both COX's Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Dear Listers > > Thank you to Nivard for the very sensible suggestion. > > The 1861 census reference is for Dedworth Green. The family is George Cox > (38, b. Dedworth Green), his wife Eliza Cox (39, b. Clewer), their son > William George (7, b. Dedworth Green) and Eliza's father, William Cox (64, > b. Durville?). > > The 1871 census entry is for the same family: George Cox (45, b. Clewer), > Eliza (49, b. Clewer), William George (16, b. Dedworth Green), living at > #39 > Dedworth Green. > William Cox, widower, aged 74 now lives alone next door at #38. His birth > place looks like Durvel?, Berkshire. > > With thanks, Margaret

Hello Margret, There seems to be only two people who have that as a birth location in the census. One of them is Annie wife of Joseph Tyler who may give a clue, as in census 1901 this time, she is listed as Reading. The Berkshire accent would have been quite strong at that time, so two possibilities are Burghfield to the South West of Reading or Charvill between Reading and Twyford on the A4. Regards Bob -- Genealogy Database Powered by TNG on Linux Mint Server http://www.bobhutchins.me.uk http://www.roberthutchins.me.uk On Thu, 2010-04-15 at 20:58 +1000, Margaret Nichols wrote: > Dear Listers > > I am trying to decipher a town name from an 1861 and an 1871 census page. > The town is in Berkshire and looks like Burville or Burvel. Google maps > does not recognise it. > The town was someone's birth place and it states it is in Berkshire. > > Would anyone know of such a town in the period please? > > With thanks, Margaret > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Margaret With this sort of enquiry its always useful to give the census references, names/age & birth place Many listers have access to the census and can give a better opinion if they can see it for themselves Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Dear Listers > > I am trying to decipher a town name from an 1861 and an 1871 census page. > The town is in Berkshire and looks like Burville or Burvel. Google maps > does not recognise it. > The town was someone's birth place and it states it is in Berkshire. > > Would anyone know of such a town in the period please? > > With thanks, Margaret

Colleagues The next computer meeting of the Oxfordshire Family History Society will take place on Monday 12 April 2010. It will be held at the usual venue at Exeter Hall, Oxford Road, Kidlington, Oxford OX5 1AB. Doors open at 7.15pm for a 7.30pm start. The subject of the talk at 7.30pm is :- "See where your ancestors lived & died - an exploration in pictures on the web". This topic will be presented by Wendy Archer. She will be demonstrating the use of resources including image searches and beyond, and exploring the newly extended Google Street View. This will enable those present to look at the churches, houses and environments featuring in the lives of their ancestors. For those who live "out of county" or who are otherwise unable to attend, a page of links that have featured in the talk will be loaded onto the "Past meetings" page of the society's website at _www.ofhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk/) . That page will appear within a few days of the talk. In addition, the usual detailed synopsis of the talk will be published in the "Oxfordshire Family Historian", the journal of the Oxfordshire Family History Society, which is issued to members of the society three times per year. All members, potential members and their guests are welcome to attend the meeting. For directions as to how to get to the Exeter Hall, please see :- _http://www.ofhs.org.uk/ExeterHall.html_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk/ExeterHall.html) For a list of future OFHS meetings, please see :- _http://www.ofhs.org.uk/meetings.html_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk/meetings.html) Any queries, please contact me off-list. Paul Gaskell Publicity Officer Oxfordshire Family History Society Website : _www.ofhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk/)

The Vale of the White Horse Branch, Berkshire Family History Society will be having our Annual Meeting on Monday 19 April 2010. But don't let this put you off. The formal part of the meeting will not take long and will be followed by at talk by Margaret Young the Berkshire Family History Society Projects Coordinator, who will tell us about projects the Society has undertaken, working on at present and plan to do in the future. We will also be discussing the Vale Branch own project at St Peter Drayton where we are transcribing the Monumental Inscriptions. Margaret is also the Berkshire Regional Representative of the Guild of One Name Studies and I am sure she will help anyone wish it start one or who needs help with theirs. The meeting will start at 7.30pm and will be held as usual at Long Furlong Community Centre, Boulter Drive, Abingdon. Where there is ample free parking. Everyone welcome. Regards Sue Matthews Chairman/Programme Secretary Vale of the White Horse Branch, Berkshire Family History Society

She is almost certainly looking for relief - either she was destitute, unable to find work or incapable of working, or she was pregnant. The overseers of Brightwell had, presumably, questioned whether she was their responsibility - ie they were looking at a way of avoiding paying for her (and her child's) support. The JP (Warner) may well have concluded that she should seek relief or have her child in Dorchester. Phil -----Original Message----- From: berkshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:berkshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pamela Andre Sent: 09 April 2010 05:17 To: BERKSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [BRK] Query about an Examination in 1769 The examination quoted below is from the Berkshire Overseers Project, vol.9, Wallingford Union. My query is: why was Frances being examined? "23 4. 1] 23 July 1769 Examination of 2] Frances BATTEN [x] of Brightwell before 6] J. Warner [+]. She is about 20 years of age and born at Brightwell. Lived with her father for about 8 years and then family moved to Dorchester, Oxon and lived there some years. She maintained herself there and at Brightwell by her own labour. Sometime before Christmas last past she moved to London in service for one month (and after that cohabited) [these 4 words crossed out] with Levy BANNISTER and received a months wages from him and after that cohabited with him until sometime after last Easter, when she returned to Brightwell." [End] The document is from "a mixed bundle of 8 documents relating to bastardy" so can I assume that Frances was pregnant and seeking financial assistance? I haven't found a matching baptism in Dorchester or Brightwell but I think (hope) the child was named Thomas and would have been born in 1769. Any help or advice would be much appreciated. Pamela Sydney, Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2800 - Release Date: 04/09/10 07:32:00

The examination quoted below is from the Berkshire Overseers Project, vol.9, Wallingford Union. My query is: why was Frances being examined? "23 4. 1] 23 July 1769 Examination of 2] Frances BATTEN [x] of Brightwell before 6] J. Warner [+]. She is about 20 years of age and born at Brightwell. Lived with her father for about 8 years and then family moved to Dorchester, Oxon and lived there some years. She maintained herself there and at Brightwell by her own labour. Sometime before Christmas last past she moved to London in service for one month (and after that cohabited) [these 4 words crossed out] with Levy BANNISTER and received a months wages from him and after that cohabited with him until sometime after last Easter, when she returned to Brightwell." [End] The document is from "a mixed bundle of 8 documents relating to bastardy" so can I assume that Frances was pregnant and seeking financial assistance? I haven't found a matching baptism in Dorchester or Brightwell but I think (hope) the child was named Thomas and would have been born in 1769. Any help or advice would be much appreciated. Pamela Sydney, Australia

>From Jackson's Oxford Journal, Saturday, August 9, 1800; Issue 2467. MARRIED. At St. James's Church, Westmister, Mr. JAGGER, Farmer, of Chalvey Green, near Windsor, aged 70 years, to his servant girl, Betty THOMAS, aged 22. She is the daughter of one THOMAS, a labouring man, of Compton, near Iffley, Berks; what is remarkable, THOMAS has ten children, all living, and the Parson of the parish, to his credit be it spoken, took the tenth child, and has entirely brought it up, and educated it, at his own expence.

>From The Morning Chronicle , Wednesday, January 30, 1839; Issue 21591. The following building is certified as a place duly registered for solemnizing marriages, pursuant to the act of 6 and 7 Wm. 1V., cap. 85:- The Independent Chapel, Upton cum Chalvey, Buckinghamshire. C. P. BARRETT , superintendent registrar.

>From Jackson's Oxford Journal, Saturday, May 14, 1836; Issue 4333. First stone of new Church of Upton-cum-Chalvey, near Slough, was laid yesterday afternoon by Prince George of Cambridge.

Hello Margaret Thanks for your response to my query. Our line has no connection with Swindon or Wiltshire that I'm aware of but they seem to be widespread from Berkshire to London (Lambeth), Birmingham and Dublin and various places overseas. Although the name Skeate has been given as a second name for generations in our line I haven't yet found the original White/Skeate connection which I think is pre-1750 at least and possibly much older. Regards, Elissa ----- Original Message ----- From: "MARGARET ALEXANDER" <malexa2889@btinternet.com> To: <berkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [BRK] EDWARD SKEATE WHITE My Grandmother was a Skeates/Skates born in Swindon, Wiltshire do you have connection with this area? Margaret ________________________________ From: DAVID SKATES <david.p.skates@btopenworld.com> To: berkshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 6 April, 2010 21:44:19 Subject: Re: [BRK] EDWARD SKEATE WHITE Hello, I am researching my name Skates which has a number of historical variations including Skeate. My family came from around Alton in Hampshire and moved to London - Wandsworth and Lambeth. However as far as I know there are no Whites in the family. I have located early variations of the name in both Hampshre and Cumbria. Good luck & I would be interested to know if you find any connections with my family. Best Regards David Skates ________________________________ From: Elissa <elissa@globaldial.com> To: berkshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 6 April, 2010 6:34:46 Subject: Re: [BRK] EDWARD SKEATE WHITE Hello all I am hoping to fill in some gaps in my WHITE line. Edward Skeate WHITE was a brother of my great-grandfather, John William White. Their father was Richard WHITE born c1796 in Reading who married Mary Ann CUTTER on 21 November 1822 at St Giles, Reading. They later moved to Lambeth Surrey where all their children were born. But there were earlier family members called Edward Skeate WHITE one of whom was a mayor of Reading in 1777. 'Esther HATTON married one Edward Skeate WHITE the younger of Reading. In 1777, one Edward Skeate WHITE was Mayor of Reading.' I am trying to join the dots between Richard and earlier generations of Whites. So far I've been unable to find parish records relating to this family and I'd be grateful for any relavant information. Regards, Elissa Kester ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello David Thanks for your comments re Skates/Skeate. I don't know when the Skeate/White connection began but it was pre-1750 at least as far as I'm aware. I haven't gone further back yet. My White line came from Berkshire but there were business and family connections in London, other counties and also in Dublin. Presumably there was an as-yet-undocumented White/Skeate marriage further back ... who knows how far? On the White side Skeate has been given as a second name at least once in each generation up until at least my grandparents generation and perhaps even further forward as I haven't traced all the descendants of this line. Likewise I'd be interested if you ever get back to the White connection. Best wishes, Elissa Kester Australia I am researching my name Skates which has a number of historical variations including Skeate. My family came from around Alton in Hampshire and moved to London - Wandsworth and Lambeth. However as far as I know there are no Whites in the family. I have located early variations of the name in both Hampshre and Cumbria. Good luck & I would be interested to know if you find any connections with my family. Best Regards David Skates ________________________________ From: Elissa <elissa@globaldial.com> To: berkshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 6 April, 2010 6:34:46 Subject: Re: [BRK] EDWARD SKEATE WHITE Hello all I am hoping to fill in some gaps in my WHITE line. Edward Skeate WHITE was a brother of my great-grandfather, John William White. Their father was Richard WHITE born c1796 in Reading who married Mary Ann CUTTER on 21 November 1822 at St Giles, Reading. They later moved to Lambeth Surrey where all their children were born. But there were earlier family members called Edward Skeate WHITE one of whom was a mayor of Reading in 1777. 'Esther HATTON married one Edward Skeate WHITE the younger of Reading. In 1777, one Edward Skeate WHITE was Mayor of Reading.' I am trying to join the dots between Richard and earlier generations of Whites. So far I've been unable to find parish records relating to this family and I'd be grateful for any relavant information. Regards, Elissa Kester ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My Grandmother was a Skeates/Skates born in Swindon, Wiltshire do you have connection with this area? Margaret ________________________________ From: DAVID SKATES <david.p.skates@btopenworld.com> To: berkshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 6 April, 2010 21:44:19 Subject: Re: [BRK] EDWARD SKEATE WHITE Hello, I am researching my name Skates which has a number of historical variations including Skeate.     My family came from around Alton in Hampshire and moved to London - Wandsworth and Lambeth.   However as far as I know there are no Whites in the family.     I have located early variations of the name  in both Hampshre and Cumbria.    Good luck & I would be interested to know if you find any connections with my family. Best Regards David Skates ________________________________ From: Elissa <elissa@globaldial.com> To: berkshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 6 April, 2010 6:34:46 Subject: Re: [BRK] EDWARD SKEATE WHITE Hello all I am hoping to fill in some gaps in my WHITE line. Edward Skeate WHITE was a brother of my great-grandfather, John William White. Their father was Richard WHITE born c1796 in Reading who married Mary Ann CUTTER on 21 November 1822 at St Giles, Reading. They later moved to Lambeth Surrey where all their children were born. But there were earlier family members called Edward Skeate WHITE one of whom was a mayor of Reading in 1777. 'Esther HATTON married one Edward Skeate WHITE the younger of Reading. In 1777, one Edward Skeate WHITE was Mayor of Reading.' I am trying to join the dots between Richard and earlier generations of Whites. So far I've been unable to find parish records relating to this family and I'd be grateful for any relavant information.  Regards, Elissa Kester ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I am researching my name Skates which has a number of historical variations including Skeate.     My family came from around Alton in Hampshire and moved to London - Wandsworth and Lambeth.   However as far as I know there are no Whites in the family.     I have located early variations of the name  in both Hampshre and Cumbria.    Good luck & I would be interested to know if you find any connections with my family. Best Regards David Skates ________________________________ From: Elissa <elissa@globaldial.com> To: berkshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 6 April, 2010 6:34:46 Subject: Re: [BRK] EDWARD SKEATE WHITE Hello all I am hoping to fill in some gaps in my WHITE line. Edward Skeate WHITE was a brother of my great-grandfather, John William White. Their father was Richard WHITE born c1796 in Reading who married Mary Ann CUTTER on 21 November 1822 at St Giles, Reading. They later moved to Lambeth Surrey where all their children were born. But there were earlier family members called Edward Skeate WHITE one of whom was a mayor of Reading in 1777. 'Esther HATTON married one Edward Skeate WHITE the younger of Reading. In 1777, one Edward Skeate WHITE was Mayor of Reading.' I am trying to join the dots between Richard and earlier generations of Whites. So far I've been unable to find parish records relating to this family and I'd be grateful for any relavant information.  Regards, Elissa Kester ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Heather, I have Charles Frederick Hale born 1842, married Eliza (Alice-Agnes) Wichelow 1874. 9 children born SA and Vic. His father was also Chalres and mother Elizabeth Cowdery. I have 3 children for Charles/\cowdery, George 1841, Charles F and William 1844, (who marrd Mary E Heath 1876 also Vic. George marrd Elizabeth LOADER 1863, she was the d/o William and Sarah Maynard. The Maynards are my family. If I can help more, please email me off list. dianneb@baonline.com.au Regards Dianne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather Debono" <heather_debono@hotmail.com> To: <berkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 3:18 PM Subject: [BRK] CHARLES & WILIAM HALE Hi all, I'm hoping that someone may be able to help me find more details about the family of my gg grandfather CHARLES HALE and his brother WILLIAM. On the shipping records it states that they were from Berkshire and on CHARLES marriage certificate (he married Elisa Wichelow here in Australia) his fathers name is recorded as CHARLES, his mother's name was not listed. My gg grandfather was born circa 1846, his brother William circa 1848. I have looked on the Hale family website but my family doesn't appear to be listed there. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Regards- Heather _________________________________________________________________ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/

Hello Kevin Thanks for all the information you've sent... it fills in some background and certainly fits what is already known. Best wishes, Elissa

Hello all I am hoping to fill in some gaps in my WHITE line. Edward Skeate WHITE was a brother of my great-grandfather, John William White. Their father was Richard WHITE born c1796 in Reading who married Mary Ann CUTTER on 21 November 1822 at St Giles, Reading. They later moved to Lambeth Surrey where all their children were born. But there were earlier family members called Edward Skeate WHITE one of whom was a mayor of Reading in 1777. 'Esther HATTON married one Edward Skeate WHITE the younger of Reading. In 1777, one Edward Skeate WHITE was Mayor of Reading.' I am trying to join the dots between Richard and earlier generations of Whites. So far I've been unable to find parish records relating to this family and I'd be grateful for any relavant information. Regards, Elissa Kester

Hi all, I'm hoping that someone may be able to help me find more details about the family of my gg grandfather CHARLES HALE and his brother WILLIAM. On the shipping records it states that they were from Berkshire and on CHARLES marriage certificate (he married Elisa Wichelow here in Australia) his fathers name is recorded as CHARLES, his mother's name was not listed. My gg grandfather was born circa 1846, his brother William circa 1848. I have looked on the Hale family website but my family doesn't appear to be listed there. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Regards- Heather _________________________________________________________________ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/

On 5/04/2010 3:18 PM, Heather Debono wrote: > Oops Sorry ! Missed William off the 1851 census aged 7 William in Adelaide > Hi all, > > > > I'm hoping that someone may be able to help me find more details about the family of my gg grandfather CHARLES HALE and his brother WILLIAM. On the shipping records it states that they were from Berkshire and on CHARLES marriage certificate (he married Elisa Wichelow here in Australia) his fathers name is recorded as CHARLES, his mother's name was not listed. My gg grandfather was born circa 1846, his brother William circa 1848. > > I have looked on the Hale family website but my family doesn't appear to be listed there. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Regards- Heather >

Hi Heather Could be these folk :- 1841 census has :- Living in Barkham Charles Hale 25 Elizabeth 25 George 4 months Ages rounded down in 1841 1851 census in Winnersh,Berkshire Charles Hale 38 ag lab born Finchampstead ? Elizabeth 37 born Hurst,Berkshire George 10 Charles 9 Mary Anne 4 Lucy 1 Children born in Barkham,Berkshire except Lucy in Hurst 1861 census in Sandhurst,Berkshire Charles 48 Cowman Elizabeth 47 George 20 Carter Mary Anne 14 Lucy 11 There is a marriage between Charles Hale and Elizabeth Cowdery in the Oct qtr of 1838,Wokingham District, Vol 6,Page 509 Hope this helps Kind Regards,William in Adelaide On 5/04/2010 3:18 PM, Heather Debono wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'm hoping that someone may be able to help me find more details about the family of my gg grandfather CHARLES HALE and his brother WILLIAM. On the shipping records it states that they were from Berkshire and on CHARLES marriage certificate (he married Elisa Wichelow here in Australia) his fathers name is recorded as CHARLES, his mother's name was not listed. My gg grandfather was born circa 1846, his brother William circa 1848. > > I have looked on the Hale family website but my family doesn't appear to be listed there. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Regards- Heather > >