Hi, I have ancestors from Bishopstone, WIL. My 3 x great grandmother Mary DURHAM was born in New Sydney, Canada (about 1806) and one of her sisters was born in Ireland (about 1816). Her father (Thomas DURHAM) was a member of the Wiltshire Regiment fighting the Americans in Canada, when Mary was born. The Wiltshire Regiment eventually moved back to their base in Ireland, where general troop numbers were reduced. This meant a lot of men demobbed in Ireland around 1816, the time when Mary's sister was born. You can search the National Archive index to see what LAMBOURN men were in the army, although the cost of getting the records is prohibitive. I can recommend the researcher I used though. I have some background information that might help. Email me off list if you would like to discuss. Cheers Darren. On 12 Jul 2010, at 11:05, g3vps@tinyworld.co.uk wrote: > > Hello > > In the 1841 Census my GG/GFather JOHN LAMBOURN gave his > place of birth as I (Ireland). > > He was married in Headington to ELIZABETH BURROWS in 1825 > and moved from there to East Ilsley, Berks. Occ Ag Lab/Shepherd. > > He died in 1849 (before 1851 Census). His burial is on the Parish Reg, > but no death certificate available. > > My question is, any ideas what a LAMBOURN would be doing in > Ireland. Its not exactly an Irish Name (none at all on the IGI). > > My Guess would be that his father was in the army. Have found > several Army LAMBOURNs. But my problem with them is that I dont > know Lambourn seniors name. > > I have been looking for him for 20years, so would greatly appreciate > any help, suggestions or whatever. > > Thanks > Vera Lennard > g3vps@tinyworld.co.uk > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello In the 1841 Census my GG/GFather JOHN LAMBOURN gave his place of birth as I (Ireland). He was married in Headington to ELIZABETH BURROWS in 1825 and moved from there to East Ilsley, Berks. Occ Ag Lab/Shepherd. He died in 1849 (before 1851 Census). His burial is on the Parish Reg, but no death certificate available. My question is, any ideas what a LAMBOURN would be doing in Ireland. Its not exactly an Irish Name (none at all on the IGI). My Guess would be that his father was in the army. Have found several Army LAMBOURNs. But my problem with them is that I dont know Lambourn seniors name. I have been looking for him for 20years, so would greatly appreciate any help, suggestions or whatever. Thanks Vera Lennard g3vps@tinyworld.co.uk

Thank you very much to John and Peter for their replies. They have explained all and I have some reading to do. Cheers, Margaret in Canberra -----Original Message----- From: berkshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:berkshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Brown Sent: Saturday, 10 July 2010 7:18 PM To: berkshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRK] Windsor Union It refers to the 'Poor Law' area covering Windsor and its environs. The Union was administered by a Board of Guardians who were responsible for a range of matters relating to the welfare of the population, including the provision of a workhouse for those who were destitute or otherwise in need. There is a significant amount of information on the 'The Workhouse' website at http://www.workhouses.org.uk/ and 'googling' for terms such as 'Poor Law' and 'Board of Guardians' will provide many sites with much more. John B Leic., Eng ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Nichols" <mnichols@netspeed.com.au> To: <berkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 8:41 AM Subject: [BRK] Windsor Union > Dear Listers > > > > Can anyone explain exactly what the Windsor Union is/was please? > > I have found several names in the 1841 census - the registration district > is > Windsor Union. Is that what it is - an area? > > > > With thanks in advance, Margaret (Canberra, Australia) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Local Tribunals dealt with people who appealed against being conscripted into the army, for example conscientious objectors (COs) and key workers. Quoting from http://www.ppu.org.uk/coproject/guide.html, In both conscription periods (1916-19 and 1939-63), Tribunals (a tribunal is similar to a court, but less formal and limited in function) were set up to consider and decide upon applications. There were, however, important differences in the arrangements for the two periods. In WW1, the responsible government department was the Local Government Board (now the Department for Communities and Local Government). Under the Board, Borough and District Councils were required to set up Military Service Tribunals for applicants in their area. However, these Tribunals did not deal only with applications from COs: the majority of cases arose from matters such as key workers in employment, domestic hardships, and even health grounds. Although Tribunals were intended to be impartial, there was no means of ensuring a quality of objectivity in the character of members. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Betteridge" <pbetteridge@pobox.com> To: <berkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [BRK] George Frederick SLADE M.B.E. > Dear Helen > > > George Frederick SLADE was born 1851 at Aston Upthorpe, he was a > > solicitor at Wallingford and died 1931 at Wallingford, his death > > notice says M.B.E. > > > > Trying to find out when he recieved his M.B.E. and what for > > I would say that searching the Times is a sound idea. > > I have also tried the London Gazette archive: > http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/search > > It was a little tricky to find the right search conditions - not so > difficult to find references to him in his capacity as a solicitor, but > the one you want seems to be in the "Supplement to the London Gazette", > 7 June 1918, where he appears (page 6741) for his services as Clerk to > Wallingford Rural Tribunal and Crowmarsh Local Tribunal. (I'm not sure > what these bodies were, incidentally). The first page of the supplement > shows it is a list of people awarded honours in the King's birthday > honours list for services in connection with the war. (You may want to > read at least some of the pages in between, which may say something else > of interest.) > > Perhaps given a date, you may have more luck looking in the Times. Also, > a more local newspaper may give other details. > > Best wishes > > Paul > > -- > Paul Betteridge, Leafield, Oxfordshire > pbetteridge@pobox.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thankyou   Most informative, abit of Engliish history unknown to me as a Aussie. He was not against active service as his 2 sons both served in WW I as did a number of his nephews   Helen  --- On Sun, 11/7/10, Jeff Coleman <Jeff.Coleman@ntlworld.com> wrote: From: Jeff Coleman <Jeff.Coleman@ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: [BRK] George Frederick SLADE M.B.E. To: berkshire@rootsweb.com Received: Sunday, 11 July, 2010, 11:39 PM Local Tribunals dealt with people who appealed against being conscripted into the army, for example conscientious objectors (COs) and key workers. Quoting from http://www.ppu.org.uk/coproject/guide.html, In both conscription periods (1916-19 and 1939-63), Tribunals (a tribunal is similar to a court, but less formal and limited in function) were set up to consider and decide upon applications. There were, however, important differences in the arrangements for the two periods. In WW1, the responsible government department was the Local Government Board (now the Department for Communities and Local Government). Under the Board, Borough and District Councils were required to set up Military Service Tribunals for applicants in their area. However, these Tribunals did not deal only with applications from COs: the majority of cases arose from matters such as key workers in employment, domestic hardships, and even health grounds. Although Tribunals were intended to be impartial, there was no means of ensuring a quality of objectivity in the character of members. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Betteridge" <pbetteridge@pobox.com> To: <berkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [BRK] George Frederick SLADE M.B.E. > Dear Helen > > > George Frederick SLADE was born 1851 at Aston Upthorpe, he was a > > solicitor at Wallingford and died 1931 at Wallingford, his death > > notice says M.B.E. > > > > Trying to find out when he recieved his M.B.E. and what for > > I would say that searching the Times is a sound idea. > > I have also tried the London Gazette archive: > http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/search > > It was a little tricky to find the right search conditions - not so > difficult to find references to him in his capacity as a solicitor, but > the one you want seems to be in the "Supplement to the London Gazette", > 7 June 1918, where he appears (page 6741) for his services as Clerk to > Wallingford Rural Tribunal and Crowmarsh Local Tribunal. (I'm not sure > what these bodies were, incidentally). The first page of the supplement > shows it is a list of people awarded honours in the King's birthday > honours list for services in connection with the war. (You may want to > read at least some of the pages in between, which may say something else > of interest.) > > Perhaps given a date, you may have more luck looking in the Times. Also, > a more local newspaper may give other details. > > Best wishes > > Paul > > -- > Paul Betteridge, Leafield, Oxfordshire > pbetteridge@pobox.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Helen > ... > had tried the London Gazette but kept coming up with legal bits Formulating a search in the London Gazette took a few tries. Searching for "slade" and "wallingford" in the period 1900 to 1931 was what I used in the end: http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/1900-01-01;1931-12-31/all=slade+wallingford/start=1 > I've tried searching the Times to no avail > ... No, the Times is not easy either. One point that makes it more difficult to find is that there were so many names that they were published over 5 or 6 days. The other is the patchy indexing - even when I tried to search for "birthday honours" in 1918, the precise article with Mr Slade's honour did not appear. The notice appears on page 2 of the issue of 13 June 1913. It says the same as the London Gazette. > Unfortuneatly here in West Australia I don't have access to local > papers after 1900 That would make it more difficult. Best wishes Paul -- Paul Betteridge, Leafield, Oxfordshire pbetteridge@pobox.com

Hi Helen Google books has a listing for a George Frederick Slade, Woodlea, Wood Street Wallingford, Councellor and Mayor of Wallingford c 1906 This is from - The Municipal year book and public services directory volume 1906 There are a couple of others along the same lines. My guess would be that he received the MBE for his work on the council Hope this helps regards MOIRA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Carter" <helen.carter28@yahoo.com> To: <BERKSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 3:45 PM Subject: [BRK] George Frederick SLADE M.B.E. George Frederick SLADE was born 1851 at Aston Upthorpe, he was a solicitor at Wallingford and died 1931 at Wallingford, his death notice says M.B.E. Trying to find out when he recieved his M.B.E. and what for Tis possible the Oxford alumini may give a clue I've tried searching the Times with no luck so far Need some help with this Helen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Helen > George Frederick SLADE was born 1851 at Aston Upthorpe, he was a > solicitor at Wallingford and died 1931 at Wallingford, his death > notice says M.B.E. > > Trying to find out when he recieved his M.B.E. and what for I would say that searching the Times is a sound idea. I have also tried the London Gazette archive: http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/search It was a little tricky to find the right search conditions - not so difficult to find references to him in his capacity as a solicitor, but the one you want seems to be in the "Supplement to the London Gazette", 7 June 1918, where he appears (page 6741) for his services as Clerk to Wallingford Rural Tribunal and Crowmarsh Local Tribunal. (I'm not sure what these bodies were, incidentally). The first page of the supplement shows it is a list of people awarded honours in the King's birthday honours list for services in connection with the war. (You may want to read at least some of the pages in between, which may say something else of interest.) Perhaps given a date, you may have more luck looking in the Times. Also, a more local newspaper may give other details. Best wishes Paul -- Paul Betteridge, Leafield, Oxfordshire pbetteridge@pobox.com

Thankyou Paul   I've tried searching the Times to no avail, but will now have another search, had tried the London Gazette but kept coming up with legal bits, so now for another look   Unfortuneatly here in West Australia I don't have access to local papers after 1900   Helen    --- On Sun, 11/7/10, Paul Betteridge <pbetteridge@pobox.com> wrote: From: Paul Betteridge <pbetteridge@pobox.com> Subject: Re: [BRK] George Frederick SLADE M.B.E. To: berkshire@rootsweb.com Received: Sunday, 11 July, 2010, 3:44 PM Dear Helen > George Frederick SLADE was born 1851 at Aston Upthorpe, he was a > solicitor at Wallingford and died 1931 at Wallingford, his death > notice says M.B.E. > > Trying to find out when he recieved his M.B.E. and what for I would say that searching the Times is a sound idea. I have also tried the London Gazette archive: http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/search It was a little tricky to find the right search conditions - not so difficult to find references to him in his capacity as a solicitor, but the one you want seems to be in the "Supplement to the London Gazette", 7 June 1918, where he appears (page 6741) for his services as Clerk to Wallingford Rural Tribunal and Crowmarsh Local Tribunal. (I'm not sure what these bodies were, incidentally). The first page of the supplement shows it is a list of people awarded honours in the King's birthday honours list for services in connection with the war. (You may want to read at least some of the pages in between, which may say something else of interest.) Perhaps given a date, you may have more luck looking in the Times. Also, a more local newspaper may give other details. Best wishes Paul -- Paul Betteridge, Leafield, Oxfordshire pbetteridge@pobox.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

George Frederick SLADE was born 1851 at Aston Upthorpe, he was a solicitor at Wallingford and died 1931 at Wallingford, his death notice says M.B.E.   Trying to find out when he recieved his M.B.E. and what for   Tis possible the Oxford alumini may give a clue   I've tried searching the Times with no luck so far   Need some help with this   Helen

Dear Listers Can anyone explain exactly what the Windsor Union is/was please? I have found several names in the 1841 census - the registration district is Windsor Union. Is that what it is - an area? With thanks in advance, Margaret (Canberra, Australia)

It refers to the 'Poor Law' area covering Windsor and its environs. The Union was administered by a Board of Guardians who were responsible for a range of matters relating to the welfare of the population, including the provision of a workhouse for those who were destitute or otherwise in need. There is a significant amount of information on the 'The Workhouse' website at http://www.workhouses.org.uk/ and 'googling' for terms such as 'Poor Law' and 'Board of Guardians' will provide many sites with much more. John B Leic., Eng ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Nichols" <mnichols@netspeed.com.au> To: <berkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 8:41 AM Subject: [BRK] Windsor Union > Dear Listers > > > > Can anyone explain exactly what the Windsor Union is/was please? > > I have found several names in the 1841 census - the registration district > is > Windsor Union. Is that what it is - an area? > > > > With thanks in advance, Margaret (Canberra, Australia)

Margaret, I think you will find it is a workhouse. Peter Dear Listers Can anyone explain exactly what the Windsor Union is/was please? I have found several names in the 1841 census - the registration district is Windsor Union. Is that what it is - an area? With thanks in advance, Margaret (Canberra, Australia)

This could be a useful site for listers. It has names of convicts sent to Australia in 1791. The place of sentence, & length of sentence, is included. Hope it helps some of you. Mick & Norma http://members.tip.net.au/~pdownes/dps/3rdflt.txt

Good morning Nivard, Would you like me to verify the marriage of William and see if I can find marriages for any of the others? Colin. ----- Original Message ----- From: Nivard Ovington To: berkshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 2:43 AM Subject: Re: [BRK] SEYMOUR - HUGHES marriage Old Windsor 1825 Thank you very much Colin All very useful information, particularly the maiden name of Jane (I am also embarrassed to see I missed that on the later IGI baptisms) I have failed to find any of them apart from Elizabeth in later census although there is a possible marriage for William WILLIAM HUGHES Marriages: Spouse: SOPHIA CRUTCHER Marriage: 08 MAR 1830 Clewer, Berkshire, England M017674 1813 - 1836 1279455 Film 6908279 Film I will have to dig deeper Very much appreciate your help Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Nivard, > > The CD I have covers St. Andrews Church in Clewer from the 1600s to early > 1800s for Baptisms, Banns and Marriages, there are a few burials for the > early years in the 1600s. > > I couldn't find the Banns or Marriage for Richard and Jane so it would > appear they married in a different church. > The baptism from the IGI is correct and I also found the following > baptisms which I presume are siblings of Elizabeth. > May 14th 1806, William s/o Richard and Jane HUGHES. > May 8th 1808, Jane d/o Richard and Jane HUGHES. > December 2nd 1810, Hannah d/o Richard & Jane (Late MATHEWS) HUGHES born > Nov. 10th. > May 17th 1812, Jane d/o Richard & Jane (Late MATHEWS) HUGHES born May 8th. > >>From 1810 onwards they give what appears to be the maiden name of the >>mother. I suspect the Jane born 1808 died but could not find her death as >>the burials for those years were not covered, they are held by the >>Berkshire Record Office. > If I can be of further help, let me know. > > Regards, > > Colin in sunny Queensland. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Colin If you can I would be most grateful If its relatively easy please do but I wouldn't want to put you to, to much trouble Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Good morning Nivard, > > Would you like me to verify the marriage of William and see if I can find > marriages for any of the others? > > Colin. > Thank you very much Colin > > All very useful information, particularly the maiden name of Jane > (I am also embarrassed to see I missed that on the later IGI baptisms) > > I have failed to find any of them apart from Elizabeth in later census > although there is a possible marriage for William > > WILLIAM HUGHES > Marriages: > Spouse: SOPHIA CRUTCHER > Marriage: > 08 MAR 1830 Clewer, Berkshire, England > M017674 1813 - 1836 1279455 Film 6908279 Film > > I will have to dig deeper > > Very much appreciate your help > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Thank you very much Colin All very useful information, particularly the maiden name of Jane (I am also embarrassed to see I missed that on the later IGI baptisms) I have failed to find any of them apart from Elizabeth in later census although there is a possible marriage for William WILLIAM HUGHES Marriages: Spouse: SOPHIA CRUTCHER Marriage: 08 MAR 1830 Clewer, Berkshire, England M017674 1813 - 1836 1279455 Film 6908279 Film I will have to dig deeper Very much appreciate your help Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Nivard, > > The CD I have covers St. Andrews Church in Clewer from the 1600s to early > 1800s for Baptisms, Banns and Marriages, there are a few burials for the > early years in the 1600s. > > I couldn't find the Banns or Marriage for Richard and Jane so it would > appear they married in a different church. > The baptism from the IGI is correct and I also found the following > baptisms which I presume are siblings of Elizabeth. > May 14th 1806, William s/o Richard and Jane HUGHES. > May 8th 1808, Jane d/o Richard and Jane HUGHES. > December 2nd 1810, Hannah d/o Richard & Jane (Late MATHEWS) HUGHES born > Nov. 10th. > May 17th 1812, Jane d/o Richard & Jane (Late MATHEWS) HUGHES born May 8th. > >>From 1810 onwards they give what appears to be the maiden name of the >>mother. I suspect the Jane born 1808 died but could not find her death as >>the burials for those years were not covered, they are held by the >>Berkshire Record Office. > If I can be of further help, let me know. > > Regards, > > Colin in sunny Queensland.

Nivard, The CD I have covers St. Andrews Church in Clewer from the 1600s to early 1800s for Baptisms, Banns and Marriages, there are a few burials for the early years in the 1600s. I couldn't find the Banns or Marriage for Richard and Jane so it would appear they married in a different church. The baptism from the IGI is correct and I also found the following baptisms which I presume are siblings of Elizabeth. May 14th 1806, William s/o Richard and Jane HUGHES. May 8th 1808, Jane d/o Richard and Jane HUGHES. December 2nd 1810, Hannah d/o Richard & Jane (Late MATHEWS) HUGHES born Nov. 10th. May 17th 1812, Jane d/o Richard & Jane (Late MATHEWS) HUGHES born May 8th. >From 1810 onwards they give what appears to be the maiden name of the mother. I suspect the Jane born 1808 died but could not find her death as the burials for those years were not covered, they are held by the Berkshire Record Office. If I can be of further help, let me know. Regards, Colin in sunny Queensland. ----- Original Message ----- From: Nivard Ovington To: berkshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [BRK] SEYMOUR - HUGHES marriage Old Windsor 1825 Thank you Colin If I don't here in the meantime I would appreciate it but are you saying the CD covers Old Windsor as well or that there may be Banns at Clewer? I wouldn't want to waste your time as the marriage was reportedly at Old Windsor Elizabeth HUGHES was born 1801/2 and baptised at Clewer as follows from IGI ELIZABETH HUGHES Christening: 26 DEC 1802 Clewer, Berkshire, England Father: RICHARD HUGHES Mother: JANE P017671 1708 - 1812 0088232 Film 1235447 Film It would be extremely useful to know if that is a correct extraction Many thanks for your help, much appreciated Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Nivard, I have the CD for the Clewer Church but cannot do the lookup for > you till the weekend, if you do not get the info from another Lister let > me know and I will do it for you on the weekend. > > Colin in Queensland. > Dear all > > Some years ago I was kindly given the details of a marriage between John > SEYMOUR & Elizabeth HUGHES (of Clewer) > > The place and date were 9th Jan 1825 at Old Windsor > > Since then I had a loss of data and have just noticed I have no source > for > the marriage > > Could someone please confirm the marriage please > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Colleagues BBC Oxford 95.2FM will have a one-hour family history feature on Tuesday 6 July 2010, commencing at 12 noon and ending at 1.00pm (GMT). The station's "Louisa Hannan Show" will have as studio guests :- Mark Priddey, Archives Manager at the Oxfordshire Record Office. Mark Lawrence, Local Studies Manager at Oxfordshire Studies. Tony Hadland, Vice-Chairman of this society and editor of the Oxfordshire Family Historian. A core part of the programme will be listeners 'phoning in to the studio with their tricky research problems. BBC Radio Oxford broadcasts on 95.2 FM in Oxfordshire, and can also be listened to on _www.bbc.co.uk_ (http://www.bbc.co.uk) . "Listen live" and "listen again" are actually in the middle of the page :- _http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/oxford/_ (http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/oxford/) Enjoy ! Paul Gaskell Publicity Officer Oxfordshire Family History Society Website : _www.ofhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk)

An interesting site, naming some of the children who were sent to South Africa, in the 1830's, by the Children's Friend Society. Originally called the Society for the Suppression of Juvenile Vagrancy http://www.genealogyworld.net/immigration/children/children_1.html