I am trying to find the parents, especially the mother, of Edward Vines, a solicitor in Reading. The ages given for him in the Census returns 1841-1871 all indicate a birth year about 1805 in the Reading area. As he was recorded as Edward Vines Junior I am assuming that his father was also called Edward. The older Edward was also a solicitor in Reading and it may be him whose will was signed at Russell Street Reading on 7 Jan 1840 and proved by his son Edward on 5 Nov 1841. Only two children were named in the will, Edward & Emma. Other names in the will point to Edward senior being the 7th? child (born/bap 28 March 1767) of the very prolific Edward Vines 1725-1785 & his wife Anne Henly 1737-1816 who worshipped as United Brethren in the Malmesbury area. The burial at St Mary's Reading on 19 Jan 1841 of Edward Vines 73 confirms a birth in about 1767. The Edward who made his will in 1840 may be the Edward who married Mary Hillier on 2 August 1790 at St Mary's Reading. Their first son Hillier was buried on 4 Dec 1796; their first daughter Sophia was buried on 11 Dec 1796. The mother Mary (and her infant child) were buried on 31 Dec 1796. All these burials were in the Baptist Burial Ground in Reading. Did the widower Edward Vines then re-marry and if so to whom? And was the second wife the mother of Edward & Emma mentioned in the 1840/41 will? I should be most grateful if anyone can give me this information. John Buckley

All The next meeting of the Oxfordshire Family History Society will take place on Monday 25 October 2010 at the usual venue at Exeter Hall, Oxford Road, Kidlington, Oxford OX5 1AB. Doors open at 7.15pm for coffee, help with both genealogy and computers, and the bookstall, exchange journals and the library. The subject of the talk is "The turbulent lifetime of Thomas Vachell", which will be presented by Tony Hadland. The subject of the talk, Thomas Vachell, was remarkable for two things : his extraordinarily long life, and his dogged refusal to conform to the Church of England. He lived under Henry VIII, Edward VI, Mary I, Elizabeth I and James I, and thus spanned the whole Reformation era, from the first break with Rome to the Gunpowder Plot. The Vachell family claimed to be of Norman origin and were one of the most prominent in the Reading area. Their main seat was Coley Manor, close to the centre of Reading, where they had great influence. Thomas Vachell's father was MP for Reading and the commissioner responsible for overseeing demolition of the town's huge Benedictine Abbey. Yet, despite his father's enthusiastic involvement in King Henry's attack on the Roman church, Thomas became a recusant Catholic. Having inherited Coley Manor and spent a lot of money on it, he surrendered it to a Protestant nephew and moved to Ipsden, where his wife, a READE of Abingdon, held property. At one stage, Thomas was subjected to the highest recusancy fines in Oxfordshire – a county noted for its high rate of gentry recusancy. In this illustrated talk, Tony will trace Thomas Vachell's life in Oxfordshire and Berkshire, plotting it against the major events of his lifetime, tracing his involvement with contemporaries and looking at the places he frequented. He will even go on the trail of hidden treasure ! Our guest speaker Tony Hadland has been a member of OFHS for nearly thirty years. He is currently vice chairman of the society, and is editor of our journal, the "Oxfordshire Family Historian". He is an author, editor, occasional broadcaster and retired chartered building surveyor, who also had a training in architecture. He has written on Catholic recusancy in the Thames Valley and on many aspects of cycling history. He is currently working on a major history of the Raleigh bicycle company for a publisher in California. After retiring as operational risk manager of the property services department of a major bank, Tony went back to work as manager of the Vale & Downland Museum from 2004 to 2009. During that time, he took an active part in the Oxfordshire Museums Council, the Thames Valley Museums Group, and the Oxfordshire County Council Museums Liaison Group. Tony is chairman of the Alex Moulton Museum committee (Bradford-on-Avon, Wiltshire), an occasional advisor to the Museum of Computing (Swindon), and a volunteer at the Pendon Museum (Long Wittenham, Oxon) and the Vale & Downland Museum (Wantage, Oxon.) He is also a member of the Project Steering Group for the redevelopment and refurbishment of Abingdon County Hall Museum. For more about Tony Hadland, visit his website at _www.hadland.net_ (http://www.hadland.net) All members, potential members and their guests are welcome. For directions as to how to get to the Exeter Hall, please see :- _http://www.ofhs.org.uk/ExeterHall.html_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk/ExeterHall.html) For a list of future OFHS meetings, please see :- _http://www.ofhs.org.uk/meetings.html_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk/meetings.html) Any queries, please contact me off-list. Paul Gaskell Publicity Officer Oxfordshire Family History Society _www.ofhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk)

I have arranged a Wills Probate course for our Local History Society. We are more than lucky to have David Vaisey and Dr Mary Hodges take the class. You may imagine that with two such scholars we are learning not only Secretary hand, but much more. We have a limited amount of spare places on our course, and if this interest you and you would like the opportunity to participate, please contact me. We meet at the Church Hall, attached to Kingston Bagpuize Church at 2pm on Thursday afternoon. The next meeting will be on the 21st October. The class has just started and we are honing our skills on some Burford wills at present, before moving on to our project to transcribe wills of the past residents of Kingston Bagpuize, Longworth and Hinton Waldrist, all villages once in old Berkshire. The course of lessons is for 10 weeks, each lesson lasts about two hours. The cost, is a very low £30.00 Kind regards, Jill http://www.kingston-bagpuize.com - an online history of Kingston Bagpuize & area.

Richard was buried in 1637. Or are you descended from Bartholomew Perrott died Erlestoke 1581, or from Conquer Parrat baptised Evenlode 1675, or maybe from Simon Perrott of Oxford whose will was proven in 1584, or possibly from John Parratt, yeoman of Luton, who wrote his will in 1620.  Would you like to meet others from your family?  This is a last minute reminder that the P-rr-tt Society will be meeting this coming Saturday.   Or maybe you belong to one of the other groups of Parrotts, Porrits, Perrets from Berkshire, Buckinghamshire, Devon, London or elsewhere and want to find more about your ancestors.  If so, the P-rr-tt Society will be meeting in Poole in Dorset on Saturday October 16.  If you are interested in the name Parrott, Perrett, Porrit or any of the variations of the name then do join us in St John’s Church Hall, Parkstone, Poole, 10.00am -.4.00pm.  Enjoy access to our paper archive, including our large collection of wills, or obtain help to get started with your family history. Dorset FHS will be in attendance to help you as well. Further details are available from Julia Towner, 7 Woolvern Close, Poole, Dorset BH14 0QT.  Lunch may be booked.  See http://www.p-rr-tt.org.uk for more details.

Waldemar came into use in England following the Princess Royal's (Queen Victoria's eldest daughter Vicky)marriage to Crown Prince Friedrich. Their sixth child was named Prince Waldemar of Prussia (Joachim Friedrich Ernst Waldemar) he lived for only a short time, February 1868 to March 1879, dying of diphtheria at the age of eleven. As for your Fooks connection, it isn't a transcription error for Fulker is it? Always on the lookout for Fulker's in Berkshire. (My interest in the descendants of Queen Victoria is mainly their connections to Haemophilia). Pat ... also in Suffolk :-) (but I think you might know that) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Barsby" <patriciabee47@hotmail.co.uk> To: <berkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [BRK] CLARKE surname -Reading -Parish Baptisms 1880ish clipped > Thank you for the indicater, if that is him Waldermar could well be > something to look for as a Father's name, and thank you also for taking > the time to find him on the later census. I did have this one but can't > find him after this date.... clipped > > Thank you again, > Patricia [Suffolk]

Actually Nivard, I'm not certain where the William came from. I think I thought I had found him under that name and later dismissed it. Unforunately the brain didn't kick in when I sent in my message to the list. I should of course have just given the W as a middle initial.My apologies. Thank you for the indicater, if that is him Waldermar could well be something to look for as a Father's name, and thank you also for taking the time to find him on the later census. I did have this one but can't find him after this date. Thank you again, Patricia [Suffolk] ---------------------------------------- > From: ovington1@sky.com > To: berkshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 15:39:44 +0100 > Subject: Re: [BRK] CLARKE surname -Reading -Parish Baptisms 1880ish > > Hi Patricia > > How certain are you that its Ernest *William* ? > > I only see one Ernest William CLARKE birth registered after the 1881 census > > There is one more Ernest W that looks more likely to be him > > Name: Ernest Waldermar Clarke > Year of Registration: 1878 > Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun > District: Reading (1837-1974) > County: Berkshire > Volume: 2c > Page: 359 > > If that is the case, could WALDERMAR be an indicator of his fathers name? > > In 1891 they are with grandparents John and Martha SIMMOND > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > PS not sure what offence anyone could take from your post? > > >> >> This is my first time on this list, and so I hope that I'm keeping within >> the guidelines for my request as no offense is meant. >> >> I have two illegimate children born at Reading while their mother was in >> service. Her name was Mary Ann Dinah Clarke and theirs were ERNEST WILLIAM >> CLARKE born 1879 Reading and MARY GERTRUDE CLARKE born 1880 Reading and >> left in the care of a family named Fooks [1881 census gives St. Giles as >> the area]. >> >> I would dearly love to know if any comment of the father was made on the >> original baptism record, assuming their mother had them christened. >> >> I'm not hopeful of finding the information I seek but you never know! >> >> I know that it is a long shot, but is anyone on the list able to either >> point me in the direction of purchasing a CD or fiche that would cover the >> Reading area for baptisms around 1880 or possibly do a look up for me >> please? >> >> I'd be very grateful for any help, thank you. >> Patricia [Suffolk] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Patricia How certain are you that its Ernest *William* ? I only see one Ernest William CLARKE birth registered after the 1881 census There is one more Ernest W that looks more likely to be him Name: Ernest Waldermar Clarke Year of Registration: 1878 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Reading (1837-1974) County: Berkshire Volume: 2c Page: 359 If that is the case, could WALDERMAR be an indicator of his fathers name? In 1891 they are with grandparents John and Martha SIMMOND Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) PS not sure what offence anyone could take from your post? > > This is my first time on this list, and so I hope that I'm keeping within > the guidelines for my request as no offense is meant. > > I have two illegimate children born at Reading while their mother was in > service. Her name was Mary Ann Dinah Clarke and theirs were ERNEST WILLIAM > CLARKE born 1879 Reading and MARY GERTRUDE CLARKE born 1880 Reading and > left in the care of a family named Fooks [1881 census gives St. Giles as > the area]. > > I would dearly love to know if any comment of the father was made on the > original baptism record, assuming their mother had them christened. > > I'm not hopeful of finding the information I seek but you never know! > > I know that it is a long shot, but is anyone on the list able to either > point me in the direction of purchasing a CD or fiche that would cover the > Reading area for baptisms around 1880 or possibly do a look up for me > please? > > I'd be very grateful for any help, thank you. > Patricia [Suffolk]

This is my first time on this list, and so I hope that I'm keeping within the guidelines for my request as no offense is meant. I have two illegimate children born at Reading while their mother was in service. Her name was Mary Ann Dinah Clarke and theirs were ERNEST WILLIAM CLARKE born 1879 Reading and MARY GERTRUDE CLARKE born 1880 Reading and left in the care of a family named Fooks [1881 census gives St. Giles as the area]. I would dearly love to know if any comment of the father was made on the original baptism record, assuming their mother had them christened. I'm not hopeful of finding the information I seek but you never know! I know that it is a long shot, but is anyone on the list able to either point me in the direction of purchasing a CD or fiche that would cover the Reading area for baptisms around 1880 or possibly do a look up for me please? I'd be very grateful for any help, thank you. Patricia [Suffolk]

The Vale of the White Horse Branch, Berkshire Family History Society, in collaboration with Abingdon Library, are holding a Family History, Drop-in Session at Abingdon Library, between 10am and 4pm on Saturday 16 October. The Societies members will be on hand to help you with your Family History whether you are new to Family History or you just need some fresh ideas so that you can move forward. Our Monthly Meeting is on Monday 18 October when Trevor Davies will talk about " <http://www.berksfhs.org.uk/cms/2010-10-18/Entertainment-and-Self-improvemen t-in19th-Century-Abingdon-a-talk-by-Trevor-Davies.html> Entertainment and Self-improvement in19th Century Abingdon " Trevor will offer an insight into the entertainment available for 19th century Abingdonians as well as some leisure activities available with self-improvement and self-advancement opportunities. The meeting will start at 7.30pm and will be held as usual at Long Furlong Community Centre, Boulter Drive, Abingdon. Where there is ample free parking. Everyone welcome. Regards Sue Matthews Chairman/Programme Secretary Vale of the White Horse Branch, Berkshire Family History Society

Paul, Paul and Peter Thank you so much for your help and the suggestions outlined. Patricia Fuller Castle Cary --- On Sun, 3/10/10, Paul Betteridge <pbetteridge@pobox.com> wrote: > From: Paul Betteridge <pbetteridge@pobox.com> > Subject: Re: [BRK] Robert DEW(E) & Hannah POWELL > To: berkshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, 3 October, 2010, 22:14 > Dear Patricia > > > Other than her marriage, is Hannah in the Chilton > registers and I have > > missed the entry, or is she somewhere else? Is there > another set of > > registers that I should check? > > Peter and Paul (Gaskell) have both suggested (from > different indexes) > that Hannah daughter of Benjamin and Sarah baptised at > Cholsey on 23 > August 1789. > > However, before accepting this possibility, you will want > to consider > the fact that a _burial_ is recorded at Cholsey on 11 > November 1817 of > Hannah POWEL, aged 27, daughter of Benjamin and Sarah. > (from Oxfordshire > FHS transcript.) This may well be the same woman - had she > been a > married woman, I imagine that she would have been described > as "wife of > ...". > > Paul's suggestions about possible places to find (or not > find) Hannah > are sound ones, and probably contain the explanation. > > Best wishes > > Paul > > -- > Paul Betteridge, Leafield, Oxfordshire > pbetteridge@pobox.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Dear Patricia > Other than her marriage, is Hannah in the Chilton registers and I have > missed the entry, or is she somewhere else? Is there another set of > registers that I should check? Peter and Paul (Gaskell) have both suggested (from different indexes) that Hannah daughter of Benjamin and Sarah baptised at Cholsey on 23 August 1789. However, before accepting this possibility, you will want to consider the fact that a _burial_ is recorded at Cholsey on 11 November 1817 of Hannah POWEL, aged 27, daughter of Benjamin and Sarah. (from Oxfordshire FHS transcript.) This may well be the same woman - had she been a married woman, I imagine that she would have been described as "wife of ...". Paul's suggestions about possible places to find (or not find) Hannah are sound ones, and probably contain the explanation. Best wishes Paul -- Paul Betteridge, Leafield, Oxfordshire pbetteridge@pobox.com

Patricia, The only Hannah Powell on the IGI in the right timeframe is: Name: Hannah Powell Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: 23 Aug 1789 Baptism/Christening Place: CHOLSEY,BERKSHIRE,ENGLAND Birth Date: 18 Aug 1789 Father's Name: Benjm. Powell Mother's Name: Sarah Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C021302 Chilton and Cholsey are only 18m from each other so might be her. Peter Hello List Thanks to past help and the 2 Wantage PR disks I have found that Robert DEW(E) of Blewbury married Hannah POWELL on 20/08/1816 at Chilton. Their children were Sophia, Jane, Henry and Ann Arnold all born in Blewbury. I have tried to look thoroughly(!) at the Chilton transcripts for Hannah's baptism but have not been successful. There are other POWELL baptisms but I have no idea if they are from the same family. Hannah was buried at Blewbury on 24/12/1846 with her age recorded as 53. Other than her marriage, is Hannah in the Chilton registers and I have missed the entry, or is she somewhere else? Is there another set of registers that I should check? many thanks Patricia Fuller Castle Cary

In a message dated 03/10/2010 16:10:42 GMT Daylight Time, patriciamfuller@btinternet.com writes: Thanks to past help and the 2 Wantage PR disks I have found that Robert DEW(E) of Blewbury married Hannah POWELL on 20/08/1816 at Chilton. Their children were Sophia, Jane, Henry and Ann Arnold all born in Blewbury. I have tried to look thoroughly(!) at the Chilton transcripts for Hannah's baptism but have not been successful. There are other POWELL baptisms but I have no idea if they are from the same family. Hannah was buried at Blewbury on 24/12/1846 with her age recorded as 53. Other than her marriage, is Hannah in the Chilton registers and I have missed the entry, or is she somewhere else? Is there another set of registers that I should check? Patricia You give details of Hannah POWELL's burial, which suggests that she might have been born in 1793. Meanwhile, a quick check of the society's transcription of the 1841 census suggests that Hannah POWELL was aged fifty. Although that age might well have been rounded, it puts her birth at roughly around 1791. Hence, we are looking at roughly the early 1790s. In addition, the 1841 census indicates that she was born in the county - which was Berkshire. A quick look at the incomplete Oxfordshire Baptism Index 1538-1851 gives us one possible baptism. That is :- Hannah POWELL, daughter of Benjn & Sarah, baptised at Cholsey in 1789. Have you considered that as a possibility ? Three points about your Hannah POWELL :- 1. she might not have been baptised, or the recording of the baptism might be flawed or lost. 2. she might have been baptised in a parish that is in modern-day Berkshire, and hence isn't in the Oxfordshire Baptism Index. 3. she might have been baptised in a Berkshire parish that is in modern-day Oxfordshire, but has not yet been added to our incomplete index. Best wishes. Paul Gaskell Publicity Officer Oxfordshire Family History Society Website : _www.ofhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk)

Colleagues The next computer meeting of the Oxfordshire Family History Society will take place on Monday 4 October 2010. It will be held at the usual venue at Exeter Hall, Oxford Road, Kidlington, Oxford OX5 1AB. Doors open at 7.15pm for a 7.30pm start. The subject of the talk at 7.30pm is :- "Protect and Save - Looking after your family history research" This topic will be presented by Leslie Binns. A founder-member of the society's computer group, Les has many years of computing experience behind him, and is particularly passionate about the need for researchers to protect and save their data - both digitally and in other formats - so that it can be accessed easily by future generations. For those who live "out of county" or who are otherwise unable to attend, a page of links that have featured in the talk will be loaded onto the "Past meetings" page of the society's website at _www.ofhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk/) . That page will appear within a few days of the talk. In addition, the usual detailed synopsis of the talk will be published in the "Oxfordshire Family Historian", the journal of the Oxfordshire Family History Society, which is issued to members of the society three times per year. All members, potential members and their guests are welcome to attend the meeting. For directions as to how to get to the Exeter Hall, please see :- _http://www.ofhs.org.uk/ExeterHall.html_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk/ExeterHall.html) For a list of future OFHS meetings, please see :- _http://www.ofhs.org.uk/meetings.html_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk/meetings.html) Any queries, please contact me. Paul Gaskell Publicity Officer Oxfordshire Family History Society Website : _www.ofhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk/)

Hello List Thanks to past help and the 2 Wantage PR disks I have found that Robert DEW(E) of Blewbury married Hannah POWELL on 20/08/1816 at Chilton. Their children were Sophia, Jane, Henry and Ann Arnold all born in Blewbury. I have tried to look thoroughly(!) at the Chilton transcripts for Hannah's baptism but have not been successful. There are other POWELL baptisms but I have no idea if they are from the same family. Hannah was buried at Blewbury on 24/12/1846 with her age recorded as 53. Other than her marriage, is Hannah in the Chilton registers and I have missed the entry, or is she somewhere else? Is there another set of registers that I should check? many thanks Patricia Fuller Castle Cary

Colleagues The annual Open Day of the Oxfordshire Family History Society takes place on Saturday 2 October 2010. For details of times, the venue at Woodstock etc, please see :- _http://www.ofhs.org.uk/OpenDay.html_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk/OpenDay.html) The Open Day will feature the usual assortment of visiting societies, publishers, dealers in second-hand books and postcards, and the like. Our own society's search services will be available for consultation, whilst we will also be manning a beginners' helpdesk. Additionally, there will be computing demonstrations, which will give advice on such things as which genealogical software package to choose, and the use of the internet in family history. A special feature will be a joint stall put together by Oxfordshire Record Office and Oxfordshire Studies, which will give advice on the use of their resources. Admission and car parking are free, and light refreshments will be on sale all day. Best wishes. Paul Gaskell Publicity Officer Oxfordshire Family History Society Website : _www.ofhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk/)

Colleagues Yesterday, I collected stocks of two brand new titles from Oxfordshire Black Sheep Publications. In due course, these will be added to the society's postal booksales' list and shopping cart, but only when I've formally updated our stock records and calculated prices to include postage and packing. In the meantime, they are available to researchers at :- 1. tomorrow (Monday) evening's meeting at the Exeter Hall. 2. Saturday's Open Day at Woodstock. 3. the Holford Centre during its normal opening hours - Tuesday 5 October 2010 being the next day that it is open. The two new books are :- Oxford Gaol Prisoner Portraits 1870-1881 - Volume Seven : More Crimes in West Oxfordshire. £4.00. Childhood Secrets : Oxfordshire Children sent to Reformatories and Industrial Schools 1855-1900 - Volume One. £4.50. I haven't yet properly examined the latter book, but it strikes me as a possible key to finding ancestors who seem to have disappeared without trace ! Best wishes. Paul Gaskell Bookstall Manager Oxfordshire Family History Society Website : _www.ofhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk/)

Hi Paul, I forgot to reply to your question "do I know the regiment Charles Long was in?" Unfortunately I don't at this stage, but hopefully I may in the future. Regards & thanks for your help. Elaine. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Betteridge" <pbetteridge@pobox.com> To: <berkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [BRK] LONG family of Tubney > Dear Elaine > >> I have just subscribed to the list > > Welcome > >> Is there anyone on the list with access to the Fyfield Parish Registers? > > As I live in Australia I am unable to access them. > > The older Fyfield registers were apparently damaged by fire in 1893, so > the best available substitute are the "Bishop's Transcripts" (BTs). > > Obviously, being in Australia does make it difficult to access original > records in the UK. However, because the area of historic Berkshire which > contained Fyfield and Tubney is now part of Oxfordshire, Oxfordshire FHS > has transcribed the parish records (BTs in this case) and published them > on CD: > http://www.ofhs.org.uk/CDsales.html#prs > >> Charles Long was a soldier & gained the rank of Lt. Colonel. His wife > > was Margaret and they had 4 daughters and 1 son. > > I wonder how you know they had 4 daughters and 1 son? > >> Mary c 7 Oct 1766 at the Fyfield Parish Church. >> Elizabeth Emma c 4 Sep 1768 at the Fyfield Parish Church. >> Charles c 2 Mar 1779 at the Fyfield Parish Church. >> I have also found another daughter - Ann or Anna but have yet to > > find her christening and one daughter still missing. > > David Lay has provided you with the information available from the > Fyfield records. He also mentioned the marriage of a Samuel LONG, "clerk > to the parish of Bensington" (now Benson) (in Oxfordshire), to Catherine > WESTON in 1768. You may be interested to know that there are 2 baptisms > recorded in Benson (once again courtesy of an Oxfordshire FHS > transcript) which appear to be earlier children of Charles LONG and > Margaret his wife: > > 19 November 1757: Charles Richard LONG son of captain Charles and > Margaret; born October 23 > 26 July 1759: Mary LONG daughter of captain Charles and Margaret > > Also in Benson, a Charles LONG (not necessarily the same) acted as > witness at the marriage of James BURGIS and Ann NEWBERY in 1758. > > Also in the Benson PR transcript is a list of minsters, which shows > Samual LONG, MA, of Christ Church as minister between 1754 and 1780 (I'm > not sure of the source of this information.) I had originally > interpreted the marriage in Fyfield in 1768 as that of the "parish > clerk" of Benson, but it seems it may well have been that of the "clerk > in holy orders" belonging to Benson. > > I cannot see any definite connection between Charles LONG and Samuel > LONG, but I would suspect they may be related - perhaps they are > brothers. If so, this may (almost certainly will) help you take the > family back further. > > There is no marriage recorded for a Charles LONG in the Oxfordshire FHS > marriage indexes for Oxfordshire and north Berkshire > (http://searches.oxfordshirefhs.org.uk/). These are complete for > surviving records for those areas, so Charles and Margaret probably > married elsewhere - perhaps in London. > > If you decide to look in to Samuel LONG, you will find the "Clergy of > the Church of England Database" useful, here: > http://www.theclergydatabase.org.uk/index.html > You'll find that he became vicar of Shabbington, Buckinghamshire, and > that his successor was called Phipps WESTON - one of the witnesses at > Samuel LONG's marriage had this name. > > Do you know which regiment Charles LONG served in? > > Best wishes > > Paul > > -- > Paul Betteridge, Leafield, Oxfordshire > pbetteridge@pobox.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BERKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.445 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3148 - Release Date: 09/20/10 17:04:00

Thank you to David, Paul and Jill for your further information. Jill, I am a member of the AIGS & unfortunately they don't have the parish registers I need for this search, but thank you for searching as you did. I do appreciate it. Paul, I found mention of the Long family in excerpts from The Gentleman's Magazine etc. online & this is where I read they had 4 daughters and a son, this however is incorrect as David kindly gave me the name of another son. I am trying to prove what I found on the internet. On the IGI I found the christenings of the 3 children that I mentioned in my first email. Charles & Margaret's daughter Mary was married to Sir William Wynn & resided in Bath. Again, from online information I have found that Margaret passed away in Bath, but I have yet to prove it. Once again thank you all for your kind help. I have found this list to be very helpful. Regards, Elaine. Melbourne, Australia.

Born abt 1800 married Sarah Eleanor Matthews. They had 11 children, 3 of them put in later census they were born Castle windsor Berkshire. John was a royal servant to the Queen. would have been Charlotte. When he retired and lived in London he put as his occupation reitired servant Queen. The other children put Windsor Berkshire as their birthplace. Could the children have been born in the Castle? Would those attached to royalty live in the castle? sorry but us folks across the pond don't know these things. Any help? Katy