Hi Connie, I got kinda concerned when realized that letter went on list....as it kinda offlist writing. but guess BELCHER list is more relaxed than some. Yes, as I remember my Catherine DeWITT was b in NY acc to census. They were in Cincinnati area, OH and she married my Charles NEFF of the H Line. Yes, I am looking at a chart prepared by my Dad's cousin, Everett Rudolph NEFF of Topeka, KS. He did the research a number of years ago. Catherine DeWITT, b. 1812, pb. New York, D. ?, pd. Indiana. She married first Charles NEFF b. 1801, pb. Phila., PA, m. 1829?, d. 1846-1847?, pd. Cinti, OH. I am descended from their son, Civil War vet Rudolph NEFF and his wife Sarah Jane LOPERb. 1843, pb. Cinti OH, d.1932 pd. Firwood School District, Pierce Co., WA near Puyallup. Their daughter, Emma Frances NEFF m. John Culbert RANKIN II in Mitchell Co., KS, residing Glen Elder where my father, James Forrest RANKIN was b. 2 Feb. 1906; the family moved to WA state in 1910 to Pierce Co., WA, Puyallup area. My father m. my mother Evelyn Blanche RIDLEY of Tacoma, WA 1931, moved East of the Cascades to Wenatchee Valley in 1943 (Chelan Co.) , settling in Dec. at Peshastin where they raised their family and spent the rest of their lives. I personally have not researched the DeWITT family. I believe a picture of Catherine's father exists and it is reported that he lived to be l02 years old. Oh, yes, Catherine m. second John GOLDEN after Charles NEFF passed away young, est. 45 or 46 years old. Sorry I have no further info on this family. Thanks for asking, Connie. Nola Payne in Wenatchee, WA Surnames (updated11/23/99) PATERNAL--PAYNE(1933WA->MO->VA/WVA),DYER(KENT,ENG.1828) DEAN,BELCHER,WISER,CHILDS(?) COTTON. MATERNAL--RANKIN(1935-->IMM 1839) ,NEFF(H-LINE),LOPER,COLE,DEWITT, WOLFE, BUSER, CLOMAN,MARKS, CULBERT,EDMUNDSON, RIDLEY(CAPT. MARK),DAY,CONGER,POND,FAIRBANKS,ROBINSON,BOWIE,WEBBER,SMALLEY, STROUT,HENDERSON,NORTON. MCCRACKEN,HARKNESS,MADDISON Snail Mail Address: 1122Glenwood Ave., Wenatchee, WA 9880l Tel:509-663-1410 "The warmest thoughts we ever send..... are those that go from friend to friend."