John... Remember, when looking for the several Behymers in the 1812...they might be listed as B.Hymer or B'hymer. I have the war papers, pension papers for Martin, so we need for Levi B'Hymer and John Behymer/Beckelhymer (remember all the various corrupted names to look at. Somewhere in my pile of papers, I have all that was under Haines in the 1812 war. You should have a copy of Martin FRS, sources, etc in a 2-3 days..as well as Jacob & Elizabeth. I have goofed off on getting them together. then I will go thru and get the rest of Clermont/Campbell Co. Sallye