Hi... Since we are all guessing about the Johns, with some facts here and there, lets assume Johan George (the elder) John .... (the son) John Joseph... (known as John Jr) I have a map of Franklin Co, VA (too large to send over email) which shows Joseph owned property on Chestnut Creek. According to land transactions, John and Barbara owned this land. Perhaps he was also known as Joseph, because of the many different Johns before and around him...then decided to be called John again? What a wild story we could write about these illusive Beckelhymers! Who wants to write this story....I guess we elected John T to take this job over. John Jr and Barbara's children that were named heirs in 2 land transactions in Clermont were: 1. SOPHIA BEHYMER ARCHER b. 1783 VA.Henry (if this birthday is correct) marr Chapman Archer. 2. JOHN BECKELHYMER #4, b. abt 1787 VA ..supposed to be the one who marr Charity Ann Harger. ALTHO, Ralph Behymer and a Mary Belle Crosier (1963) said that John marr Anna Hunter Aug 4, 1813 Clermont Co, OH; yet another researcher said John marr Anna Henry Aug 12, 1806, PA.Philadelphia. This John ended up in Fulton Co, IL. 3. LEVI B.HYMER born 1777-1792, marr Esther France (1812- Clermont OH) He died in KY, Campbell Co - wife remarried. 4. ELIZABETH D. BEHYMER, born abt 1788 VA marr a Jacob Rardin...nothing known on him. 5. CATHERINE BEHYMER, b 3-9-1791 VA; marr Thomas Littleton. 6. MARTIN BEHYMER/B'HYMER, born 1794 VA.Franklin, marr 1) Lucinda Beagle 1816 KY.Campbell 2) Elizabeth Lindsey 1827 OH.Clermont. Lived part of the time in Clermont, and part in Campbell Co, KY, where he died 1881. 7. BENJAMIN BECKELHYMER, b. abt 1794-1800; died 1844 Fountain IN. Marr 1) Jane Ferguson (dau of Isaiah) 1819 OH.Clermont; 2) Eunice Fitzpatrick 1824 OH.Clermont. 8. LYDIA BECKELHYMER b. 1794-1804; marr Jesse Beckelhymer (son of Joseph) and died bef 1829 in Clay or Henry, IN. It is said that Lydia remarried... 9. CHRISTINE BEHYMER b. abt 1800-VA; married Peter Robb 1818 OH.Clermont; She died 1866 possibly in IN. Delaware.Muncie. These are the only children named in the sale of John's land, in Clermont co OH. When Barbara died, she named Esther (Behymer) Johns as heir, but this must have been a grandchild...by who? Don't know. If there were other heirs/descendants of John, we can't verify as yet. Have a good day...stewing over all the Johns. Sallye