FYI: ---------- > From: John Tippet <johndoetippet@csi.com> > To: Edwin-P@worldnet.att.net > Subject: Re: An Incredible Breakthrough > Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 7:35 PM > > Rick: > > Regarding the two new children of John, Sr: I agree that Abraham is one of > them. This almost certainly is Abraham, Jr b. circa 1772 who married Mary > Kingery on 28 Oct 1790 in Franklin County, VA (Mary is also listed as a > sister-in-law who had died prior to circa 1840 - does anyone have > confirmation as to when she died?). I had this Abraham, Jr as the son of > Abraham, Sr, based on John Wayne and John Walter Picklesimer's educated > guess - apparently they were wrong. I believe, however, that the Susan > from Book A, p. 18 was Susan (Kinsey) Beckleshymer, and that the scribes > got it wrong when they entered her parents as Beckleshymers (they should > have listed Kinseys, instead). Keep in mind that the one being baptised > had to be either Jonathan or Susannah. > > Your idea about David, Sr b. 1772 is quite interesting. I double checked > the probate records for the David who died in Clermont County circa 1818 > and it shows that the administrator of his estate was Elizabeth (his > probable wife) - is this Elizabeth Smith? Does anyone have any data on a > Smith Behymer? John Walter Picklesimer: what do you say to this? > > Lastly, in a follow-up to the observation that I had made regarding the > children of John, Sr and Sophia: John b. 1780 was likely the son of John, > Jr and Barbara Weddle - I must have been burning the candles on both ends > when I suggested otherwise. > > John Charles Tippet > JohnDoeTippet@csi.com > > P.S. Good look with your Trout fishing! > > ---------- > > From: Rick Phillips <Edwin-P@worldnet.att.net> > > To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: An Incredible Breakthrough > > Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 10:53 AM > > > > Great work John! > > > > As far as I can tell, the information you have unearthed is entirely > > consistent with the unifying of all the Picklesimer/Behymer families. > > It looks like there are two new children of John Sr.: Susan (from Book > > A,p.18), and Abraham. > > > > I was very curious about the Smith Behymer mentioned in book C p. 13. > > Since Jonathan was an uncle, is it possible that this Smith is the son > > of David Sr. b. 1772, and Elizabeth Smith of Montg. Co. VA? If so , > > then maybe this David is not the same one who married Sarah Prater in > > 1817. > > > > The other significant findings in my mind are the Rinker names given - > > which may help locate that family; and that Jonathan's grandfather's > > name was John - which again is consistent with our hypothesis about the > > origin of this family in America. > > > > Thanks again for all your hard work, John. > > > > Rick Phillips > > > > P.S. I hope to do some work on the Trout Family in the summer. I still > > think it is worth pursuing the hypothesis that John Sr's 2nd wife was > > Anna Catharina Traut/Trout who he married in 1756. > > > > > > >John Tippet wrote: > > > > > > Behymers: > > > > > > I have just returned from a four day trip to the LDS genealogical > library > > > in Salt Lake City. While there, I made IMHO, a most important > discovery > > > related to Behymer research. I think this will be hard to top, and I > was > > > flabbergasted with the find and want to share it with all of you. I > have > > > previously posted to the Behymer page, some index cards that were > > > transcribed form the early LDS church records for Jonathan Beckelshymer > and > > > his wife, Susanna (Kinsey) Beckelshymer. At the library, I was able to > > > find some of the original source material from which these index cards > were > > > transcribed. The source material comes from the Nauvoo Temple Baptisms > for > > > the Dead, which is in 4 volumes (A through D) covering the period from > 1840 > > > to 1845. They contain lists of relatives of the church members no > longer > > > living that were baptized via proxy through the church member, in our > case, > > > Jonathan and Susanna Beckelshymer. It turns out there was quite a bit > of > > > additional material over and above what was contained in the index > cards > > > that I had found, > > > due, I suspect, to the variations in the way the name, Beckelshymer was > > > spelled, i.e., Behymer, etc. Following is what is contained for > Jonathan > > > and Susanna (items difficult to read are followed by a question mark): > > > > > > Book A (1840 -1845) - microfilm number 0183376 > > > > > > p. 9 Jonathan Beckelshymer, son of John Beckelshymer > > > p. 10 Enoch Behymer, brother of Jonathan Behymer > > > p. 11 Jonathan Beckelshymer, son of Elizabeth Beckelshymer > > > p. 15 Jonathan Becklehamer, great grandson of great grandfather > Becklehamer > > > p. 15 Jonathan Becklehamer, great grandson of great grandmother > Becklehamer > > > p. 18 Susan Behymer, daughter of father Behymer > > > p. 18 Susan Behymer, granddaughter of grandmother Behymer > > > p. 18 Jonathan Behymer, grandson of grandmother Behymer > > > p. 30 Susannah Becklehimer, niece of Jacob Dillman > > > p. 30 Susannah Becklehimer, niece of Margaret Dillman > > > p. 31 Susannah Behymer, cousin of Daniel Dillman > > > p. 31 Susannah Behymer, cousin of Michael Dillman > > > p. 31 Susannah Behymer, cousin of Mary Dillman > > > p. 42 Jonathan Behimer, uncle of Margaret Epard > > > p. 91, Susannah Bickelhammer, daughter of Jacob Kinzey > > > p. 91 Susannah Behimer, niece of Henry Kinzey > > > p. 92 Susanna Becklehimer, niece of John Kinsey > > > p. 92 Susanna Becklehimer, cousin of John Kinsey > > > p. 92 Susanna Becklehimer, granddaughter of <unreadable> Kinzey > > > p. 93 Susan Behymer, niece of Eve Kinsey > > > p. 94 Susanna Behymer, aunt of Rebecca Kinzey > > > p. 96 Susannah Behymer, granddaughter of grandmother Kinsey > > > p. 96 Susanna Behimer, great granddaughter of great grandfather Kinzy > > > p. 96 Susanna Behimer, great granddaughter of great grandmother Kinzy > > > p. 99 Susannah Becklehimer, niece of Elizabeth Lemon > > > p. 100 Susan Behymer, granddaughter of George Lemon > > > p. 100 Susan Behymer, granddaughter of Sarah Lemon > > > p. 118 Susanna Behimer, cousin of David Lemon > > > p. 118 Susanna Behimer, great granddaughter of great grandfather Lemons > > > p. 118 Susanna Behimer, great granddaughter of great grandmother Lemons > > > p. 133 Susanna Behimer, sister-in-law of Joseph Overholts > > > p. 138 Jonathan Becklehimer, grandson of grandmother Rinker > > > p. 138 Jonathan Becklehimer, cousin of John Rinker > > > p. 138 Jonathan Becklehimer, cousin of Jonathan Rinker > > > p. 138 Jonathan Becklehimer, cousin of George Rinker > > > p. 139 Jonathan Behymer, grandson of grandfather Rinker > > > p. 141 Susanna Behymer, sister of Elizabeth Reed > > > p. 177 Susannah Behymer. cousin of Hannah Wimmer > > > p. 178 Jonathan Behymer, nephew of George Wrinkle (or Winkle?) > > > p. 184 Susanna Behimer, grandniece or greatniece? of Andrew Young > > > p. 184 Susanna Behimer, grandniece or greatniece? of Eppiderly? Young > > > p. 189 Jonathan Behymer, brother of John Behymer > > > p. 189 Jonathan Behymer, brother of Abraham Behymer > > > p. 189 Jonathan Behymer, grandson of John Behymer > > > > > > Book B (1841 - 1845) - microfilm number 0183377 > > > > > > nil for Behymers > > > > > > Book C (1842 - 1843) - microfilm number 0183378 (note: also contains > > > overflow from Book A) > > > > > > p. 13 Jonathan Behymer, nephew of Abraham Behymer > > > p. 13 Jonathan Behymer, nephew of Teny? Behymer > > > p. 13 Jonathan Behymer, brother-in-law of Anny Behimer > > > p. 13 Jonathan Behymer, brother-in-law of Mary Behimer > > > p. 13 Jonathan Behymer, uncle of Smith Behimer > > > p. 13 Jonathan Behymer, stepson of Sophia Behimer > > > p. 13 Jonathan Behymer, stepson of Anna Behimer > > > p. 13 Jonathan Behymer, cousin of Henry Burgett > > > p. 13 Jonathan Behymer, brother of Joseph Behimer > > > p. 13 Jonathan Behymer, brother-in-law of Barbara Behimer > > > p. 13 Jonathan Behimer, brother-in-law of Catherine Behimer > > > p. 13 Jonathan Behymer, cousin of David Behimer > > > p. 13 Susanna Behimer, sister-in-law of James Burk > > > p. 61 Jonathan Behymer, friend of Nancy Chole > > > p. 309 Jonathan Behymer, nephew of George Rinker > > > p. 309 Jonathan Behymer, cousin of Huldah Rice > > > p. 335 Jonathan Behymer, uncle of Nancy Short > > > p. 335 Susanna Behimer, great? niece of Peter Snider > > > p. 402 Susanna Behimer, cousin of David Wimmer > > > > > > Book D (1843 - 1845) - microfilm number 0183379 > > > > > > p. 7, 27 Aug 1843, Peggy Hough, niece of Jonathan Beckelshymer > > > p. 7, 27 Aug 1843, Jacob Beckelshymer, uncle of Jonathan Beckelshymer > > > p. 7, 27 Aug 1843, Elizabeth Beckelshymer, aunt of Jonathan > Beckelshymer > > > p. 78, 20 Jul 1844, Sophia Beckelshymer, step mother of Jonathan > > > Beckelshymer > > > p. 78, 20 Jul 1844, Anna Beckelshymer, step mother of Jonathan > Beckelshymer > > > p. 78, 20 Jul 1844, Jacob Beckelshymer, uncle of Jonathan Beckelshymer > > > p. 78, 20 Jul 1844, John Lower, nephew of Jonathan Beckelshymer > > > p. 78, 20 Jul 1844, Sarah Lower, niece of Jonathan Beckelshymer > > > p. 78, 20 Jul 1844, Margaret Spangle, great aunt of Susannah > Beckelshymer, > > > baptized by D. Carns > > > p. 78, 20 Jul 1844, Jane Scott, friend of Susannah Beckelshymer, > confirmed > > > by Edmund Bosley? > > > p. 78, 20 Jul 1844, Jacob Lemons, uncle of Susannah Beckelshymer, > witness > > > J. W. Coolidge > > > p. 78, 20 Jul 1844, Catharine Lemons, aunt of Susannah Beckelshymer, J. > C. > > > Wright - Clerk > > > > > > Nauvoo Temple Endowments (1845 - 1846) - microfilm number 0183371 > > > > > > p. 5 Jonathan Beckelhymer born 31 Dec 1787 > > > p. 5 Susannah Kinsey born 12 Jun 1790 > > > > > > There is a lot of new material here. I have yet to digest it all (and > do > > > my taxes), but I wanted to get this information distributed to you all > as > > > quickly as possible. Let me know what you think of this little gem. > > > > > > John Charles Tippet > > > JohnDoeTippet@csi.com > > > > > > P. S.: I believe there yet may be more to be mined out of the Nauvoo > Temple > > > records, as the index cards indicated that Jonathan and Susannah were > born > > > in Franklin County, MD. I ran out of time, and was unable to find the > > > original source for that piece of data. I also have some more new > > > information to share, which will be the subject of a future posting. > > > > > > ==== BEHYMER Mailing List ==== > > > Check this out: The Picklesimers of Eastern Kentucky > > > > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/p/i/c/John-W-Picklesimer/index.html > > > Thanks, John! > > > > > > ==== BEHYMER Mailing List ==== > > Related website: Behymer Genealogy Group > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3927/ > > Thanks, Jen! > >