Sallye: Thanks for clearing up the story on Esther Behymer. I had mistakenly assumed that Esther France was married 1st to Levi Behymer, 2nd to John Gray and 3rd to James John. Now I know that Esther France, born circa 1777 and Esther Behymer, born 26 Nov 1812 were two separate people. Another very interesting piece of data in your reply is the age at marriage of Esther France to her 2nd husband, John Gray. If Esther France were born circa 1777, then likely her first husband, Levi Behymer, was born circa 1776. This makes him much older than I had expected. In fact, it makes him too old to have been the son of John, Jr's wife, Barbara Weddle (assuming the DAR ladies got it right when they read her tombstone as being born 11 Apr 1764). In fact, it makes him older than John, III (of Fulton County, IL) born 12 Mar 1780. Of cource, John, Jr could have been married prior to his marriage to Barbara Weddle. Do you have a family group sheet on this line that you could send me? I am interested in your sources for this information. John Charles Tippet JohnDoeTippet@csi.com ---------- > From: SalGundy@aol.com > To: johndoetippet@csi.com > Cc: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: ESTHER BEHYMER & JAMES JOHN > Date: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 8:05 PM > > John, > In answer to your email of the 4th.... Here is your answer to one > question. > > > Esther Behymer marr James John Sep 13, 1832 by Wm. Robb MG > > Esther Behymer and James John was named heir for Barbara (Weddle) > Behymer. Deed Book K2-page 320, dated Mar 21, 1835. > James John and Esther John, heirs to estate of Barbara Behymer, > sold to Benjamin B'hymer of Fountain Co, IN; (re 158 acres of Barbara's > husband, John). > > NOTE: Esther Behymer was thought to be dau of John and Barbara > Weddle Behymer, but its more likely she was a granddaughter. She is > one of young females that was with Barbara in 1830 census. When > Esther marr James they moved to Spencer, IN (about 1854). > > James John was grandson of Barthlolomew and Rachel (Wood) Gaskins of > VA and James John, Rev. Soldier, who went to Clermont Co, OH in 1796. > JAMES's parents were Thomas and Sarah (Witham) John. > > Because of Esther's birth, I believe it is more reasonable that she was a > granddaughter of John and Barbara, but do not know who her father was... > could have been 1) John Jr 2) Levi 3) Martin. Esther was born Nov 26, 1812 > in Clermont, OH. She died Nov 5, 1877 in Newtonville, Spencer, In and > buried in New Hope Baptist Cem. She was not the same person as the > wife of Levi. > Levi marr Esther Franz Nov 23, 1812 by Stephen Lindsay, JP (1-32). > Esther Franz Behymer marr John Gray Mar 2, 1820 by Wm Robb MG > Reb Baptist (1-137)...Esther Franz Behyme was age 43 at 2nd marr, > making her born about 1777. Would estimate Levi was about the > same age. > If Esther Behymer Johns was their daughter, she was born a couple days > after Levi's marr to Esther Franz...Not impossible, but illogical. > Esther Franz and Esther Behymer are two different people. > Esther Behymer couldn't be Martin's daughter. His first marriage was > to Lucinda Beagle on Dec 5, 1816. > Esther could have been daughter of John, Jr...since I don't feel we > have found the right John for this family. > > Esther and James John had: > 1. Thomas L. John b. 3-31-1836 OH.Clermont > 2. Mary Ann John, b. 2-2-1838 d. 10-12-1840 OH.Clermont > 3. Benjamin B. John b. 1-7-1840 OH.Clermont > 4. Alonzo A. John b. 1-9-1841 OH.Clermont > 5. Lorenzo Dow John b. 3-21-1844 OH.Clermont > 6. Martin Taylor John b. 8-22-1846 OH.Clermont > 7. Emily Alice John b. 12-18-1849 OH.Clermont > ...Thomas, Benjamin, Alonzo and Martin in civil war. > > > Hope this clears up the question on Esther. > > > Sallye > > > >