In a message dated 99-05-05 00:08:44 EDT, you write: << Discussion is great, John, but what happened to our coharts? You guys put in your two cents also but I am sure you males will stick together!!! Sallye..born in Colorado...but with the mentality of a Missourian... >> Everybody on this list: You have to LOVE Sallye!!! She's got that down home kind of methodical logic, I just love her! Christine Rose gave a lecture to our Sonoma County Genealogical Group a couple of years ago and she discussed circumstantial evidence and in so many words said, determining the facts from circumstantial evidence is fine so long as it's overwhelming and convincing circumstantial evidence. So I'll leave you with that. Deanna