Twila: I received this message, but have noted that there aren't many messages coming thru lately.... Deb -----Original Message----- From: Veysey <veysey@coos.or.us> To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com <BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 2:47 PM Subject: Bounced messages >Several subscribers have had bounced mail lately. I have received info >that list mail has not gone through to Debbie, Arlene, and Kathy. Are >there other problems out there? > >Twila >Listowner > > >==== BEHYMER Mailing List ==== >What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other >name would smell as sweet--Shakespeare >B.Hymer, Becklehimer, Bicklesimer, Behimer, Beckelheimer, . . . . . . > >

Several subscribers have had bounced mail lately. I have received info that list mail has not gone through to Debbie, Arlene, and Kathy. Are there other problems out there? Twila Listowner

I havent had any problems...except the messages have been sparse. Good thing maybe...getting organized helps. Sallye

> HOW DO YOU LIVE YOUR DASH > > I read of a man who stood to speak > At the funeral of a friend. > He referred to the dates on her tombstone > >From the beginning...to the end. > He noted that first came her date of birth > And spoke the following date with tears, > But he said what mattered most of all > Was the dash between those years. (l900-l970) > > For that dash represents all the time > That she spent alive on earth... > And now only those who loved her > Know what that little line is worth. > For it matters not, how much we own; > The cars...the house...the cash, > What matters is how we live and love > And how we spend our dash. > > So think about this long and hard... > Are there things you'd like to change? > For you never know how much time is left, > That can still be rearranged. > If we could just slow down enough > To consider what's true and real, > And always try to understand > The way other people feel. > > And be less quick to anger, > And show appreciation more > And love the people in our lives > Like we've never loved before. > If we treat each other with respect, > And more often wear a smile... > Remembering that this special dash > Might only last a little while. > So, when your eulogy's being read > With your life's actions to rehash... > Would you be proud of the things they say > About how you spent your dash?

Here's the note from Steve Beckelhimer again: Deanna The one born in 1931 is my father but I don't know the one born in 1902. My grandfather didn't live until 1983 although I really don't know the date of death. I need to go to the county courthouse in a week or so to resolve some matters of a recently deceased maternal aunt. I'll check on some paternal relatives and pass the information along to you. PS. I don't think that my father nor grandfather had a middle name but I am not sure. Steve

Twila, I haven't had any and I posted to the list yesterday and today. Deanna

Here's the note I got from Steve this morning about the SS death index listings. Deanna

Deanna, This is info. you can pass on to Steve. Maybe he can help clear up the various relationships! First Harlin: *SOCIAL SECURITY DEATH INDEX DISC 1, V.1.12 HARLIN BECKELHIMER, B:17AUG1931, SSN 236-36-7407, ISS WV, D:JUL1977, BENEF TO HUNTINGTON CABELL OR WAYNE CO, WV. 25702 Second Harlin: *SOCIAL SECURITY DEATH INDEX DISC 1, V.1.12 HARLIN BECKELHEIMER, B:07DEC1902, SSN 234-05-1521, ISS WV, D:DEC1983, RES: SOUTH POINT, LAWRENCE, OH 45680. Third Harlin: *1910 KY LAWRENCE/MAG DIST 6 ROLL 1374504 22APR1910 104/5B L68 82/85 LANEY BECKELHIMER HD (M??) W 29 WIDOW 4/4 KY KY KY TAILOR L69 HARLIN BECKELHIMER SON MW 7 SINGL KY KY KY *1920 WV CABEL/HUNTINGTON ROLL 1821950 13,15JAN1920 25/9A ST.271 L30 HARLAN BECKELHIMER ST-SON MW 16 SINGL KY KY KY COAL MINER WITH L28 170/210 CHARLEY MESSER HD R MW 34 MARR KY KY KY COAL MINER L29 NANNIE WIFE FW 35 MARR KY KY KY LAUNDRESS L34 LUVANA MESSER DAU FW 4 SINGL KY KY KY RESID: 1649 2ND AVE. I would appreciate any other information that Steve or anyone else could give on these men and families. Rob HolmHogs@aol.com wrote: > > Can anybody on the list Please give me any clues as to who Harlin > Beckelhimer might belong to? I just got this note from Steve Beckelhimer > who is now living in West Virginia. > Deanna > > This is Steve's note: > > Since my father died young (as did his father) I > know little of his family. My grandfather was Harlin Beckelhimer and my > father was Harlin Jr. I have always heard that the family came from > eastern KY. I will be happy to provide any information that I have but > it is very little. I would be pleased to know anything of the family > that you know. > > ==== BEHYMER Mailing List ==== > What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other > name would smell as sweet--Shakespeare > Philhimer, Picklesimore, Pickilsimer, Pickleshymer, Packlesimer

Deanna, Thru Soc Sec records, I have the following: Harlin Beckelheimer, b. Dec 7, 1902 (applied at WV); died Dec 1983 WV Harlin Beckelhimer, b. Aug 17, 1931 (applied at WV); died Jul 1977 (no residence) These are the only 2 Harlins....unless Harlin was a middle name. Sallye

Can anybody on the list Please give me any clues as to who Harlin Beckelhimer might belong to? I just got this note from Steve Beckelhimer who is now living in West Virginia. Deanna This is Steve's note: Since my father died young (as did his father) I know little of his family. My grandfather was Harlin Beckelhimer and my father was Harlin Jr. I have always heard that the family came from eastern KY. I will be happy to provide any information that I have but it is very little. I would be pleased to know anything of the family that you know.

Sal, You have a typo in #4, Mattie who married 2) John CROSS: *1892-1898 OH CLERMONT/ INDEX TO MARRIAGE RECORDS (FN327574) V-23 MATTIE BEHYMER M JOSEPH CROSS, 26JUN1895, CLRMNT CO. #545 Hope this helps. Thanks for the additional information also. Rob SalGundy@aol.com wrote: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > --part0_919050273_boundary > Content-ID: <0_919050273@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> > Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Helen, > Geo & Laurena were married May 16, 1867 Clermont Co, OH (9A-051) > Geo age 20 and Laurena age 17, consent of her stepfather David John > and Susan (...) Abbott John You can find some information in the > "Clermont Co, OH" 1980 book, at Clermont Co. Gen Soc. I have a bit > of added/different info than you indicate. > > 1. Ida M Behymer b. Jul 26, 1867 Clermont, OH; died 1894 Clermont Co, > OH bur Mt. Moriah Cem; marr 1) Chas L. Hopper 8-24, 1884; marr 2) > John Spresser who was born 1861 > 2. Anna E Behymer b. May 13, 1871, marr Steele Boltz; > 3. Susan Behymer, born 12.17-1869 > 4. Mattie b. May 3, 1874 Clermont OH; marr 1) John Gomien 1892. > Apr. 20 OH. Clermont; 2) John Croiss 1895.Jun.26 OH.Clermont. > > #3. you didn't show. > > I am sending a copy of this toCindy Breller, as she is descended from > this family - Harry who marr Agnes Marck, sister to Clara. > email - Breller@fuse.net > > Hope this helps you . > > Sallye > > --part0_919050273_boundary > Content-ID: <0_919050273@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> > Content-type: message/rfc822 > Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > Content-disposition: inline > > Return-Path: <BEHYMER-L-request@rootsweb.com> > Received: from rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (rly-zd04.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.228]) by > air-zd04.mail.aol.com (v56.26) with SMTP; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:16:28 > -0500 > Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) > by rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) > with ESMTP id TAA06851; > Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:16:20 -0500 (EST) > Received: (from slist@localhost) > by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA09118; > Sun, 14 Feb 1999 16:03:35 -0800 (PST) > Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 16:03:35 -0800 (PST) > From: Helenbe@aol.com > Message-ID: <47d0f531.36c766d4@aol.com> > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:14:12 EST > Old-To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Found Relatives (1-4-99) > X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 > Resent-Message-ID: <"2Hu04.A.ROC.WR2x2"@bl-14.rootsweb.com> > To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-From: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com > Reply-To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com > X-Mailing-List: <BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1403 > X-Loop: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: BEHYMER-L-request@rootsweb.com > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > > Hi, > > George Washington Behymer b. 9 Aug. 1846 d. ? > married 16 May 1867 > Laurena Abbot > > I have no information on the Abbots. I don't know where they were married. I > have seen her name listed as Laura, Luranah, and Larana. My husband's > grandfather's obit (Samuel J. Behymer) lists it as Loraine. > Children of George & Laurena. > Mattie m. Gomein > Anna m. 1 Steel - 2 Boltz > Ida m. Spresser > Minnie m. William Evans > Alice m. Stopher > Florence m. Uchtmann > Samuel J. m. Clara Marck > Harry m. Agnes Marck > Marcellus d. as infant > > Samuel J. Behymer b. Nov. 20, 1877 d.Oct. 14, 1959 > m. Dec. 31, 1903 in Campbell Co., KY > Clara Marck b. 1885 d. 1962 > > One child. > Christopher Behymer b.July 26, 1905 d.1974 > m. Sept. 1, 1928 > Mary Ellen Jones b. Nov. 4, d.1979 > > There were seven children, some of which are still alive. I will only list my > husband as some of them are not interested in family trees. > > Llewellyn Roger b.April 30, l929 > m. Dec. 6, 1952 > Helen Marie Heath b. May 11, 1935 > > We have three children, 10 grandchildren, and 2 great grandchildren (this > could change any day now as there is another on the way). > > Sorry it took so long to get this out. I just can't seem to stay out of the > hospital long enough to get anything done. > > One of the Clermont Co. Bunch, > Helen > > ==== BEHYMER Mailing List ==== > What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other > name would smell as sweet--Shakespeare > Bevelheimer, Picklesimer, Beehimer, Beckelshymer, P'Hymer, . . . . . . > > --part0_919050273_boundary-- > > ==== BEHYMER Mailing List ==== > What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other > name would smell as sweet--Shakespeare > B.Hymer, Becklehimer, Bicklesimer, Behimer, Beckelheimer, . . . . . .

To John Tippet, Thanks for adding Henry Behymer to the Civil War page at your web site. Kathy Graham Friend

Helen, I found your message interesting. I had recently corresponded with a lady who was descended from George W. BEHYMER's son Harry. I am descended from Lewis BEHYMER, brother of George W. Someone sent me info saying George and Laurena were married in Clermont Co., OH on May 16, 1867. I have her mother's name as "Susan", father only as ? Abbott. Not sure if this is the right one, but on the Ohio Death Certificate Index on-line, I found "Luranah Behymer d. 20 Feb 1922 Hamilton Co., OH cert.# 9325 vol.# 3803". Could not find record of George's death on this index or in KY. Linda

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_919050273_boundary Content-ID: <0_919050273@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Helen, Geo & Laurena were married May 16, 1867 Clermont Co, OH (9A-051) Geo age 20 and Laurena age 17, consent of her stepfather David John and Susan (...) Abbott John You can find some information in the "Clermont Co, OH" 1980 book, at Clermont Co. Gen Soc. I have a bit of added/different info than you indicate. 1. Ida M Behymer b. Jul 26, 1867 Clermont, OH; died 1894 Clermont Co, OH bur Mt. Moriah Cem; marr 1) Chas L. Hopper 8-24, 1884; marr 2) John Spresser who was born 1861 2. Anna E Behymer b. May 13, 1871, marr Steele Boltz; 3. Susan Behymer, born 12.17-1869 4. Mattie b. May 3, 1874 Clermont OH; marr 1) John Gomien 1892. Apr. 20 OH. Clermont; 2) John Croiss 1895.Jun.26 OH.Clermont. #3. you didn't show. I am sending a copy of this toCindy Breller, as she is descended from this family - Harry who marr Agnes Marck, sister to Clara. email - Breller@fuse.net Hope this helps you . Sallye --part0_919050273_boundary Content-ID: <0_919050273@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: <BEHYMER-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (rly-zd04.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.228]) by air-zd04.mail.aol.com (v56.26) with SMTP; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:16:28 -0500 Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id TAA06851; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:16:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA09118; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 16:03:35 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 16:03:35 -0800 (PST) From: Helenbe@aol.com Message-ID: <47d0f531.36c766d4@aol.com> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:14:12 EST Old-To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Found Relatives (1-4-99) X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Resent-Message-ID: <"2Hu04.A.ROC.WR2x2"@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1403 X-Loop: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: BEHYMER-L-request@rootsweb.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi, George Washington Behymer b. 9 Aug. 1846 d. ? married 16 May 1867 Laurena Abbot I have no information on the Abbots. I don't know where they were married. I have seen her name listed as Laura, Luranah, and Larana. My husband's grandfather's obit (Samuel J. Behymer) lists it as Loraine. Children of George & Laurena. Mattie m. Gomein Anna m. 1 Steel - 2 Boltz Ida m. Spresser Minnie m. William Evans Alice m. Stopher Florence m. Uchtmann Samuel J. m. Clara Marck Harry m. Agnes Marck Marcellus d. as infant Samuel J. Behymer b. Nov. 20, 1877 d.Oct. 14, 1959 m. Dec. 31, 1903 in Campbell Co., KY Clara Marck b. 1885 d. 1962 One child. Christopher Behymer b.July 26, 1905 d.1974 m. Sept. 1, 1928 Mary Ellen Jones b. Nov. 4, d.1979 There were seven children, some of which are still alive. I will only list my husband as some of them are not interested in family trees. Llewellyn Roger b.April 30, l929 m. Dec. 6, 1952 Helen Marie Heath b. May 11, 1935 We have three children, 10 grandchildren, and 2 great grandchildren (this could change any day now as there is another on the way). Sorry it took so long to get this out. I just can't seem to stay out of the hospital long enough to get anything done. One of the Clermont Co. Bunch, Helen ==== BEHYMER Mailing List ==== What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet--Shakespeare Bevelheimer, Picklesimer, Beehimer, Beckelshymer, P'Hymer, . . . . . . --part0_919050273_boundary--

Deb & Dave, Thanks on the information you set forth Feb 13 re Michael Weddle. Calvin Weddle and I have worked several years on this, my finding his information on Benjamin Weddel, brother to Barbara Weddle Becklehymer/Behymer. I have maintained that we had the wrong Michael due to the land warrant dated 1739.May.29. I could not believe he could not gotten over here before he obtained that warrant. I am now forwarding a copy of research done by Calvin Weddle in Germany. I will try to type it exactly as he received it, and later forwarded a photocopy to me. ============================================================ Letter from Dr. Martin Jordan, of Heidelberg, Germany. ============================================================ Dr. Martin Jordan D 69121 Heidelberg, 19.9.1994 Klein Lobingsgasse 7 Tel. 06221-412287 Mr. Calvin Weddle 1900 E. Ocean View Ave, Unit E Norfolk, VA 23503-2555 Dr Mr. Weddle, After receiving your letter of Aug 4th, I began to dig into the Dossenheim registers of that time, helped by Mr. Fritz Reibel, Dossenheim. Firstly I regret to inform you, that of my book "Die Handschuhsheimer vor 1900" there are no more copies to get, they are all sold out. In that time the Wedels seem to have been a widespread family in Dossenheim. Hans Georg, citisan and acciser, +before 1708. He was married to Barbara NN. + 11.11.1722, 61 years old. Their children: Hans George.*16.1.1669, +1753, oo16.6.1702 Anna Margaret Popp George, conf. 1701, oo16.1.1706 Eva Katherina Schepp Elisabeth *(1671), +11.5.1740, oo 1.11.1708 Johannes Frisch Hans Michael, oo 24.1.1713 Anna Margarde Schlepp. Valentin, *(1679), + 4.11.1741, oo 22.1.1707 Kathar.Elisab. Burgemeister. ? Maria, oo 14.1.1715 Hans Michael Rimsberger ? Johannes, *(8.2.1687), + 18.2.1715 Valentin, (see above) Hans Niklas Eva Katharina, oo 23.2.1727 Bernhard Moll Hans George, (see above) Maria Barbara *5.5.1704, oo 22.1.1726 Johann George Scholl Anna Maria Gretha, *15..3.1706 oo 11.1.1729 Johannes Herdel, Hanschuhsheim Anna Katharina * Nov. 1708, oo 6.2.1731 Johann Nikolaus Casper Eva Katharina *14.4.1711 Anna Maria, *2.9.1713 Christoph. *15.6.1715 Elisabeth, *16.3.1718, +25.3.1721 (Tochterchen des Hans George Wedel") Johann Georg, *29.12.1719, oo Susanne Margrete WeiBmehl Johann Balthasar, *9.1.1722, + 21.10.1729 George and Eva Katharina Schlepp (see above) Anna Margarte, *25.2.1707 Anna Margarte, *27.1.1709, conf Whitsun 1718 * Georg Adam, *23.5.1711 Benedictus, *20.10.1713 * Johann Michael *17.12.1716 Sebastian, *7.1.1719, +24.12.1740 * Johann Peter, *21.10.1721 Eva Rosina, *11.10,1724 Anna Margarete, *9.3.1726 Valentin (s.a.) Eva Katharina, *7.1.1708 + 4.3.1746 oo 23.2.1727 Bernard Moll Johann Nikolaus, *7.5.1710, +4.3.1788, oo 29.2.1753 Anna Katharina Scholl Anna Maria, 13.1.1713, + 2.3.1771, oo Johann Nickolaus Gramm * Hans Michael, *19.3.1716 Anna Margarte, *3.7.1718 + 6.12.1782, oo K.W. Hahn Johann Valentine, *27.5.1721, + 27.9.1749 Jakob, *25.3.1725 Hans George, "the younger", oo Anna Margarete N.N. Johann Philipp, *23.12.1711, + 27.12.1735 oo bef 1735 Anna Margarete NN. Anna Maria, *18.11.1715 Elisabeth, *14.2.1718 Maria Katharina *13.10.1720 Eva Katharina, *20.2.1724 Eva Katharina, *20.1.1726 Elisabeth, *5.2.1729 Hans Michael, oo 24.1.1713 Anna Margarete schlepp, d. of the late Hans Peter Schlepp. (*1.1.1697) Maria Katharina, *2.10.1713 Martin *10.12.1715. Hans Martin, *24.4.1718, godfather Martin WeiBmehl. Hans Michael, *30.3.1721 Anna Barbara, *2.2.1725 ? Elisabeth *(19.5.1739), + 3.4.1733 *Michael, s. of Michel Wedel and Anna Maria Roscher, (1697), oo 10.1.1720 Anna Maria Roscher. Hans Ulrich, *6.7.1722 Hans Bernhard *27.2.1724 Anna Katharina, *10.1.1726 Elisabeth, *20.5.1730 Anna Margarete, *23.2.1735 (this family probably emigrated to Jutland (Denmark) Hans, oo Eva NN. Anna Maria *2.2.1720 Hans oo Maria NN Bernhard *26.11.1720 Johan Philipp, *23.12.1711, +27.12.1735, oo Anna Margarete NN Anna Maria, *1.11.1735 Johann Nikolaus, *7.5.1710, + 4.3.1788, oo 29.5.1753, Anna Margarete NN Johann Valentin, *27.7.1755, + 17.3.1797 Maria Katharina, *25.8.1759, + 10.2.1762 Anna Maria *25.10.1761, + 1.8.1764 Johann Philipp *8.4.1764, +7.11.1834 Katharina Margarete *20.7.1766 + 16.9.1833 Johann Jakob *20.9.1768 + 30.1.1844 Johannes, *1.9.1772, +17.6.1857 Maria Salome, *15.1.1776 + 2.8.1846 Anna Elisabeth *11.6.1779, +13.4.1852 I underlined the persons who might be your ancestors and marked with asterics(*) the possible emigrants in Hackers list. As you see from these excerpts the parishioner was not too exact with his notes. There are children who died without their baptism beeing registered, deaths of children often were not noted - there were so many! The Hans Martin Wedel you found in the Handschuhsheim register probably followed his brother, who died within a years time. Now the question of emigration. The Michael Wedel, listed in Hacker's emigration list, possibly tried to emigrate illegally and succeeded. Of all his family there are no deaths and marriages registered in Dossenheim with the possible exception of the youngest daughter whose filiation is doubtful. If she was his daughter, he was still in Dossenheim as late as 1733, to have her death registered there, if not, the latest registered date is 1725, prior to his request for legal emigration. What sources could you follow up on your side of the ocean? Are there shipping lists? A relative of my son in law found his ancestors gravestone with an inscription naming his home town in Germany, but that is probably a rare luck. A possible source of information could be the "Grundbucher" of Dossenheim, where sales of houses and fields were registered, but I do not know, whether they still exist, if they are at the Burgermeisteramt at Dossenheim or at the State archive at Karlsruhe. In any case, a search in them would take a lot of time (Address would be: Gemeinde- verwaltung, Rathausplatz 1, D69221 Dossenheim. Wishing that my notes will be a help to you I am, Yours truly, Dr. M. Jordan ======================================================= Please...anyone...any comments on this. Any suggestions other than to find entry to USA. I did find Georg Adam Wedel entry, but nothing other than that. He could also have gone to another country and then over here, but I would guess he landed at Philadelphia as that is where he obtained a land grant/warrant. I still believe this is the Michael that lived in York Co, PA...and the rest of the information is correct. If any of you would like a copy of the original letter, let me know and I will forward reg mail to you. Incidently Calvin was a descendant of Benjamin, and I am descended from Barbara. I am sending a copy of this to the Brethren group. Maybe they have something to add??? Sallye (Gundy) Martin 9819 Shadow Way Sunland, CA 91040-1543 email -- Sal Gundy@AOL Tel: 818-352-3097 (Calif, LA County)

Hi, George Washington Behymer b. 9 Aug. 1846 d. ? married 16 May 1867 Laurena Abbot I have no information on the Abbots. I don't know where they were married. I have seen her name listed as Laura, Luranah, and Larana. My husband's grandfather's obit (Samuel J. Behymer) lists it as Loraine. Children of George & Laurena. Mattie m. Gomein Anna m. 1 Steel - 2 Boltz Ida m. Spresser Minnie m. William Evans Alice m. Stopher Florence m. Uchtmann Samuel J. m. Clara Marck Harry m. Agnes Marck Marcellus d. as infant Samuel J. Behymer b. Nov. 20, 1877 d.Oct. 14, 1959 m. Dec. 31, 1903 in Campbell Co., KY Clara Marck b. 1885 d. 1962 One child. Christopher Behymer b.July 26, 1905 d.1974 m. Sept. 1, 1928 Mary Ellen Jones b. Nov. 4, d.1979 There were seven children, some of which are still alive. I will only list my husband as some of them are not interested in family trees. Llewellyn Roger b.April 30, l929 m. Dec. 6, 1952 Helen Marie Heath b. May 11, 1935 We have three children, 10 grandchildren, and 2 great grandchildren (this could change any day now as there is another on the way). Sorry it took so long to get this out. I just can't seem to stay out of the hospital long enough to get anything done. One of the Clermont Co. Bunch, Helen

Tom Robison and Kathy Friend: I updated the Civil War page today for Behymers to include your ancestors. Point your browser to: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JohnDoeTippet I also added some Lower census returns if anyone is interested to this related family to the Beckelhymers. John Charles Tippet JohnDoeTippet@csi.com

This came to me via the Weddle list and I thought you all might like to see it. Deb -----Original Message----- From: Laurie Howland <lhowland@ilos.net> To: weddle@onelist.com <weddle@onelist.com> Date: Saturday, February 13, 1999 1:21 AM Subject: [weddle] Re: Immigrant Michael Weddle- other evidence (long) >From: "Laurie Howland" <lhowland@ilos.net> > >I've been meaning to send this info to the list for some time, but havent >found the time to compile it into a meaningful post. These are mostly >things passed on to me by other researchers that I assumed were fairly >widely known, but apparently not. I got pretty excited when I got this >information, so want to share it w/ other Weddle searchers. I believe most >of this was discovered & published in Appalachian Notes by Calvin Weddle. >Again, I did not do most of this research myself, but consider it far more >credible than the family legends we have all heard. Basically this is a >different version of the Weddle ancestry & supporting documents which I have >scanned & included below. > >Laurie McDaniels Howland >Box 27, Group 326, RR3 >Selkirk, Manitoba R1A 2A8 >Canada >lhowland@ilos.net >Genealogy Home Page http://www.ilos.net/~lhowland > > >1. Johan Michael WEDDLE b. Germany, (possibly m. 3 Jul 1694, in >Bayern, Pfalz, Germany, Appollonia GRIESSEN, d. bef 1757.- IGI) >Johan died aft 1762, Manheim Township, York, PA, > Children: > 2. i Martin. > ii Catherina WEDDLE married Jeremiah WOLFE > iii Barbara WEDDLE married Mark FARNE > > >2. Martin WEDDLE b. Germany ?, m. (1) bef 1742, in PA, >Elizabeth WISE, (daughter of Jacob WISE and Barbara --) m. >(2) Kathrean _____, d. bef 1794, Botetourt Co, VA, USA. >Martin died 1783, Botetourt Co, VA, USA. > Children: > i Benjamin b. abt 1742. > ii Barbara WEDDLE m. bef 1783, John PHILSTHIMER. > Barbara died ab 1831. > > > >**(Evidence that Martin Married Eliz. Wise. If he was married to her in >1754 & Benjamin was born in 1742, then his mother had to be Elizabeth rather >than Kathrean .) > >PA Vital Records Vol I > ORPHANS COURT held at Lancaster for the County of Lancaster, the 3rd day >of September 1754. > Upon the Petition of Jacob Wise, eldest Son Of JACOB WISE, deceased (who >died Intestate) Praying that he may be permitted to hold and enjoy a certain >tract of land late of the said Jacob Wise, deceased, situate in the Township >of Cocolico, containing 140 acres, he paying the respective shares of the >other heirs according to valuation made by Martin Weidman, Michael Feasor, >Valentine Hercleroadt and John Shutz. The heirs being Barbara Wise the >Widow, >George Michael Wise the other Son of the said Intestate, Martin Widdle and >Elizabeth his wife one of the Daughters of said Intestate, Susanna Wise, >another Daughter and to the Children of Catherine another Daughter of said >Intestate, now deceased, by her two Husbands Michael Kitch and John Berger, >that is to say, Michael, Elizabeth, Sophia and Martin Kitch and Anna, >Barbara, Leonora, Margaret and Catherine Berger, or to their heirs. > Emmanuel Carpenter, Esqr. it appointed Guardian over Elizabeth, Sophia >and Martin Kitch, and Anna, Barbara, Leonora, Margaret and Catharine >Berger, Orphan and Minor children of Catherine one of the Daughters of >Jacob Wise dececeased. > > >**1739 May 29 PA.Philadelphia- Land warrant (Michael Wetel) -(If he >obtained a land warrant in 1739, it isn't likely that he was the Johan >Michael Weddle who came in 1742 on the "Francis & Elizabeth") > >Submitted by Calvin Weddle to Virginia Appalchian Notes (October 1977) > > THIS INDENTURE made the Sixteenth day of December Anno Domini one > thousand seven hundred and Sixty nine BETWEEN, Martin Wetel of > Manheim Township in the County of York in the Province of Pennsylvania > Yeoman of the one Part and Mark Farne of the same place Yeoman of > the other part WHEREAS the said Martin Wetel in and by a certain > Obligation or Writing Obligatory under his Hand and Seal bearing even > date herewith... Bound unto the said Mark Farne in the sum of two > hundred Pounds Lawful Money of Pennsylvania Conditioned for the Pay- > ment of one hundred Pounds Lawful Monay aforesaid on the fifteenth > day of December next ensueing the Date hereof as in and by the said > recited Obligation and Condition Hereof Relation being thereunto had > more fully and at large appear NOW THIS INDENTURE WITNESSETH that > the said, Martin Wetel for and in Consideration of the aforesaid > Debt or sum of one Hundred Pounds and for the better Securing the > Payment thereof unto the said Mark Farne his Heirs Executors Adminis- > trators and Assigns in Discharge of the said recited Obligation > and in Consideration of the further sum of five Shillings by the said > Mark Farne to the said Martin Wetel in Hand Paid at the > and Delivery of these Presents the Receipt of which five shillings is > hereby Acknowledged HATH Granted bargained sold... Confirmed > and by these Presents DOTH Grant bargain Sell Release and Confirm > unto the said Mark Farne and to his Heirs and Assigns a certain > Messuage or Tenement Plantation and Tract of Land Situate in > Manheim Township in York County aforesaid adjoining the Lands of > Andrew Hersey, Peter Dichs and the Pidgion Hills Containing two > Hundred Acres be the same more or less (It being the same which > Originally was granted unto Michael Wetel, Farther of the said Martin > Wetel party hereto by Warrant bearing date at Philada the 29th May > 1739) TOGETHER with all and Singular the Houses Out Houses Buildings > Barnes Stables Gardens Orchards Improvements Ways (?)Woods Waters > Watercourses Rights Liberties Privileges Hereditaments and Appurte- > nances whatsoever Thereunto belonging or in any wise Appertaining and > the... and Remainders Rents ... and Profits thereof TO HAVE > AND TO HOLD the said Messuage or Tenement Plantation and Tract of > Land Hereditaments and Premises hereby Granted or mentioned or in- > tended or to be with the Appurtenances unto the said Mark Farne his > Heirs and Assigns to the only proper Use d Behoof of the said Mark > Farne his Heirs and Assigns forever PROVIDED allways Nevertheless > that if the said Martin Wetel his Heirs Executors Administrators or > Assigns Shall and do well and truly Pay or Cause to be Paid unto the > said Mark Fame his Heirs Executors Administrators or Assigns the > aforesaid Debt or Sum of one hundred Pounds on the day and Time > herein before mentioned and appointed for the Payment thereof > according to the Condition of the said recited Obligation without any > Fraud or further Delay and without any Deduction Defalcation or > abatement to be made of any.thing for or in Respect of any Taxes > Charges or Assignments whatsoever then and from Henceforth as well > this Present Indenture and the Estate hereby Granted as the said > Recited Obligation shall cease determine and become absolutely Null > and Void to all Intents and Purposes whatsoever any thing herein > before Contained to the Contrary in any wise notwithstanding IN > WITNESS whereof the said parties.to these Presents have hereunto > interchangeably Set their hands and Seals dated the day and Year > first above Written. > SEALED AND DELIVERED) > In presence of ) Martin Wetel (Seal) > Mathias Detter > Jacob Billmeyer, Junr > > > >MICHAEL WETEL'S WILL left property to: >son, Martin Wetel of Lancaster County.PA >son-inlaw, Jeremiah Wolf and dau Catherine, of Lancaster Co.PA >son-inlaw, Mark Farne and dau Barbara, of Manheim Township.York.PA > >**(His will was dated 1756-57 & he was an assessed inhabitant in Manheim >twsp, York County PA in 1762. The schoolmaster who was married to Anna >Barbara Vogler died in 1744. I found the following information on that >family which shows pretty clearly that there were two different Michael >Weddles.) > >>From Eighteenth Century Emigrants-Northern Kraichgau published by the PA >German Society-1983 > >571. WAIDELE, JOH. MICHAEL Adersbach = >Francis & Elizabeth 1742 6920 Sinsheim, Elsenz > >S-H 328 > >ADERSBACH LUTHERAN KB: >m. 8 Mar. 1718 Johann Michael Wejidelein, schoolmaster, and Anna Barbara, >daughter of Joh. Friederich Vogler. Children: > 1. Joh. Michael b. 18 Aug. 1719 > 2. Johannes b. 25 Mar. 1721; d. > 3. Johannes b. 7 Aug. 1722 > (One of the sponsors for all of these three children was Johannes >Heer- > burger, the schoolmaster at Hasselbach, q. v.] This Johannes remained >in > Adersbach and became the schoolmaster there after his father left for > Pennsylvania. He m. Maria Juliana Franck in 1745, and is mentioned as > the schoolmaster in the subsequent baptismal records. > 4. Johann Friederich b. 1 Oct. 1724 > 5. Anna Maria b. 23 Feb. 1727 [surname in record: Weydele] > 6. Maria Eva b. 17 Aug. 1728 > 7. Johann Christian b. 9 Oct. 1730 > 8. Amalia,Rosina b. 14 Nov. 1732 > 9. Georg Adam b. 3 Feb. 1735; sp. at his baptism was Georg Heinrich Geck > [who became the schoolmaster at Hasselbach when Johannes Heerberger > left for Pennsylvania.] > 10. Elisabetha Rosina b. 5 May 1737 > 11. Georg Sebastian b. 7 Aug. 1740 > >Pennsylvania records: >TRINITY LUTHERAN KB, LANCASTER: >In 1743, Joh. Michael Waidelin, the schoolmaster, and wife Anna Barbara are >sponsors for a child of Georg Stephen Mann. >m. (1) 9 Oct. 1752 Christian Weidel, master potter, surviving legitimate son >of the >late Hanns Michael Weidel here in the town, and Margaretha Knecht, >legitimate >single daughter of Philipp Knecht. >m. (2) 21 Apr. 1761 Christian Weydtele, widower, and Barbara Schenck, >single. > >LANCASTER MORAVIAN KB: >D. 14 June 1744 Schoolmaster Waidelin age 63 years >D. 1 Jan. 1750 Anna Barbara Waidel > >Frederick Waidle, Lancaster twp., Lancaster co., nat. Philadelphia by >affirmation >24 Sept. 1760.

Hi John, I always enjoy your website and updates. I was looking at Samuel Behymer, b. 24 Dec 1809, married to Sarah Ward. I have some info on their children and descendants, if you would like me to send it to you. Lewis, their son, was married to Hester Woods, these (I'm pretty sure) are my grgrgrandparents. Let me know if you would like it, it may help when you get ready to add the next generation. Linda

I just posted a major update to my web page today. Point your browser to: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JohnDoeTippet Included in the update is: (1) Transcriptions of 3 more wills - Jacob Behymer, William Robb and Henry Slingluff (2) A new page for Behymers in the military - currently posted are some Behymers who served in the War of 1812 and the Civil War (3) A new page of Behymer Census Returns - currently posted are the 1820, 1830 and 1840 census returns for many Behymers I am working on posting the Behymer marriages to the web, but that will have to wait for another weekend. If you are aware of any Behymers who served in either of the Wars indicated above, let me know and I will add your information to my web page. Likewise, if you have 1820, 1830 or 1840 census data that is not included, let me know and I will add that as well. Finally, I have not proof-read the census data that I posted thoroughly, as yet, so there may be some errors. If you see anything that looks wrong, let me know. Regards... John Charles Tippet JohnDoeTippet@csi.com