John, your work is great! Thank you so much for sharing. I am having difficulty in deciphering your family genealogy format in understanding the sequence from one family to another. Don't want to sound ungrateful, but Is there a way that you could format the information so that would be a little plainer. If tabs could be used to place under specific families, that would be nice. If not, don't worry about it. Just thought I would ask. Another question concerns the Surnames in your files compared to Billy Bob's. Yours are Becklehymers, but his has different spellings and variations. How is the correct name spelling determined? Thanks again for your help. robert ----- Original Message ----- From: John Tippet <johndoetippet@csi.com> To: <BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 10:01 PM Subject: Web Page Update > Fellow Behymer researchers: > > I have been on a break from Behymer research for the last several months > working on other lines, but have decided to get back in the hunt for the > elusive Behymer. > > To that end, I just posted an update to my web page today. Point your > browser to: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JohnDoeTippet/ > > The Behymer file now has 1,071 Behymer descendants posted through 6 > generations from the common ancester, John George Beckelhymer, the Elder of > the COB. This represents about a 20% increase from the last version > (approximately 200 more names). Most of the additions are for descendants > of Samuel, Jacob and Solomon. Because the file is so large it takes quite a > long time to load. At some point in the near future, I will find a way to > break the file up into more manageable chunks. Until then, this will have > to do. > > Probably the most controversial change is that I have decided to show > Abraham, Jr as the son of John, Sr, rather than Abraham, Sr as in the > previous post. The file contains the rationale for this decision. I > welcome comments, corrections, additions, etc. on any of the data contained > therein. > > Regards... > > John Charles Tippet > JohnDoeTippet@csi.com > > > ==== BEHYMER Mailing List ==== > Behymer website: The Gerald Behymer Family Home Page > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/e/h/Gerald-I-Behymer/index.html > Thanks, Gerald! > >

Fellow Behymer researchers: If any of you have tried to access my web page recently which is located at: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JohnDoeTippet/ then you have probably experienced: (1) It takes a long time to load the various files because they are so big. This is worse on slower computers. (2) As a couple of people on this list have informed me, the links from the index of people and places page back to the descendancy narrative is not working (a page not found error message occurs). Regarding (1), I am happy to report that I have found a new feature of my genealogy program (TMG) that will allow each generation to be stored as a separate html file (each linked together), making the individual files quite a bit smaller than they would otherwise be. Of course, generation 6 will still be the largest file, but the situation will not be nearly so bad as it is now. Also, currently the source index file is unnecessarily large, do to each reference having a unique endnote number resulting in a long string of "ibids." This resulted from the fact that I had recently upgraded to a new version of TMG which had unique endnote numbers as the default. Fortunately, this feature can be turned off so that a common source is only referenced once. Regarding (2), this I believe is a bug in the new version of TMG in that the index file is missing the .htm extension on the files that it is trying to reference. This should go away when I implement the solution indicated in (1). Thats the good news. The bad news is that I've got to pay the bills this weekend, so I will not be able to remedy this situation just yet. I hope to post the update next weekend. Regards... John Charles Tippet JohnDoeTippet@csi.com

Fellow Behymer researchers: Recorded below are all the entries for Behymer/Beckelhymer deaths listed in the California death index for the period 1905 to 1949: Benjamin Beckelhymer, initials of spouse: S?, age: 34 or 84?, POD: Los Angeles County, died 11 Sep 1929 Laura Beckelhymer, initials of spouse: <blank>, age: 67, POD: Los Angeles County, died: 20 Jan? 1920 Aaron S Behymer, initials of spouse: <blank>, age: 76, POD: Los Angeles County, died: 26 Sep 1908 Agnes ? Behymer, initials of spouse: <blank>, age: 61, POD: Fresno County, died: 15 Jan 1908 Frances E? Behymer, initials of spouse: <blank>, age: 73 or 78?, POD: Los Angeles County, died: 21 Oct 1926? Henry M Behymer, initials of spouse: <blank>, age: 73, POD: Fresno County, died: 4 Jan 1912 Lorain J Behymer, initials of spouse: L M, age: 66, POD: Los Angeles County, died: 23 Jan 1920 Missouri J Behymer, initials of spouse: <blank>, age: 72, POD: Fresno County, died: 29 Dec 1916 Samuel E Behymer, initials of spouse: B?, age: 47, POD: San Joaquin County, died: 21 Mar 1919 Simon S? Bechtelheim..., initials of spouse: L, age: 74, POD: Los Angeles County, died: 16 Feb 1923 Antone Behumer (sic), initials of spouse: <blank>, age: 61, POD: Los Angeles County, died: 7 Feb 1937 Catherin... Behymer, initials of spouse: C E, age: 69, POD: Los Angeles County, died: 11 Jul 1931 Charles E Behymer, initials of spouse: E C, age: 71, POD: Los Angeles County, died: 15 Aug 1934 Daniel E Behymer, initials of spouse: D? M?, age: 37?, POD: Los Angeles County, died: 24 Aug 1931 Edward Behymer, initials of spouse: F B, age: 73, POD: Los Angeles County, died: 4 Feb 1938 George F Behymer, initials of spouse: <blank>, age: 75?, POD: Los Angeles County, died: 26 May 1930 Ida H? Behymer, initials of spouse: <blank>, age: 73, POD: San Bernardino County, died: 21 Feb 1934 Jacob M? Behymer, initials of spouse: H, age: 92, POD: Los Angeles County, died: 27 Dec 1930 Bebetha A Beckelhymer, initials of spouse: F, age: 95, POD: Los Angeles County, died: 28? Jul 1937 Bud D? Beckelhymer, initials of spouse: E, age: 39, POD: Los Angeles County, died: 11 Jan 1933 Vuelta Beckelhymer, initials of spouse: <blank>, age: 3, POD: Santa Clara County, died: 14 Dec 1935 Edmund Beckelhymer, initials of spouse: C P, POD: Los Angeles County, died: 4 Dec 1943 Matilda Beckelhymer, initials of spouse: G L, POD: Los Angeles County, died: 13 Nov 1947 Carrie W Behymer, initials of spouse: F A, POD: Los Angeles County, died: 29 Jul 1947 Douglas W Behymer, initials of spouse: <blank>, POD: Sacramento County, died: 29 Aug 1944 Frieda D Behymer, initials of spouse: G B, POD: Los Angeles County, died: 12 Jul 1946 Josephin M Behymer, initials of spouse: G B, POD: San Diego County, died: 30 Sep 1945 Lottie M Behymer, initials of spouse: G B, POD: Los Angeles County, died: 19 Oct 1949 Lynden E Behymer, initials of spouse: N S, POD: Los Angeles County, died: 16 Dec 1947 William W Behymer, initials of spouse: E C, POD: Mendocino County, died: 18 Apr 1948 John Charles Tippet JohnDoeTippet@csi.com

Sal, I have a few questions for you regarding Samuel Enoch Behymer & Lydia Logsdon. Please help me out! My questions are imbedded in your message IN CAPS. SalGundy@aol.com wrote: > Susan, > This is what I have on Minerva. > > SAMUEL B. HYMER > b. 1775-1794 VA > m. Jan 11, 1811 - Madison, KY > d. > FATHER: DANIEL BEHYMER > MOTHER: ANNA .... > WHAT INFORMATION DO YOU HAVE ON DANIEL AND MARRIAGE TO ANNA. WHAT DO YOU > KNOW OF HER? WHAT OTHER CHILDREN DID THEY HAVE BESIDES SAMUEL? > LYDIA LOGSDON ..... (LUDDY) > B. 1775-1794 > D. > FATHER: JAMES LOGSDON > MOTHER: ... > WHAT IS SOURCE OF LYDIA'S FATHER? I HAVE THE FOLLOWING ON HER: *1811 KY MADISON/ MARR. REC. V-1, 976.953 V28v, V-1 P.65 SAMUEL PICKELSIMON M: LYDIA LOGSDON, BONDDATE 11JAN1811, BONDSMAN - JAMES LOGSDON, CONSENT BY EDWARD LOGSDON, FATHER OF BRIDE. RETURN: 11JAN1811 > children > ------------------------- > 1. Cecilia B'hymer > b. May 1817 -KY > d. > m. Elias Logsdon, Feb 2, 1839, Madison, KY I HAVE A MARRIAGE BOND DATE OF 01FEB1839. DO YOU HAVE AN ACTUAL MARRIAGE DATE OF 02FEB? PLEASE E-MAIL THE SOURCE & INFORMATION CONTAINED - I DON'T NEED A COPY OF DOCUMENT. > ------------- > 2. Eady B.hymer > b. abt 1820 > d. > m. Aaron Richardson Jan 30, 1840 WHAT IS SOURCE OF INFORMATION ON EADY? I DON'T SEEM TO HAVE HER ANYWHERE NOR HER MARRIAGE TO AARON RICHARDSON. WHEREDID YOU FIND A DATE FOR THEIR MARRIAGE? DO WE NOT HAVE A LOCATION? > -------------------- > 3. Ann B.Hymer > b. 1823/24 > d. > m. Dudly P Richardson I HAVE THE FOLLOWING FROM ANOTHER RESEARCHER:SUSANNAH (ANNA) HYMER, b. 1823 in Ky. and DUDLEY P. RICHARDSON, b. 1824 in Ky. ( waiting on book from the library for marriage date). sandbox@goldrush.com I WILL CONTACT SANDBOX TO SEE IF SHE HAS GOTTEN DATE! > --------------- > 4. William B.Hymer > b. 1825 KY > d. > m. Ann Cox (or Reynolds) bef 1863 > ------------------ > 5. Lucinda B.Hymer > b. 1829 > d. > m. Levi Flynn May 6, 1845 Estill, KY > (marr shows her name as Lucinda Wilmer ) DO YOU HAVE A DOCUMENT FOR THEIR MARRIAGE? I HAVE NOT RUNACROSS LEVI FLYNN BEFORE. PLEASE E-MAIL ME WHAT YOU HAVE ON THEM. > -------------------------- > 6. John B.Hymer > b. Aug 1830 > d. > m. Mary Collins (Durbin) ...no marr found in Estill Co) > -------------------------------- > 7. Edward B. Hymer > b. Apr 1831 > d. > m. Mary Ann ..... WHAT IS SOURCE OF INFOR . ON EDWARD? I HAVE AN EDWARD B: 1837 WHO MARRIED A MIRIAM BUT NO MARY ANN. > ------------------- > 8. Minerva Picklehimer > b. Oct 14, 1837 Estill, KY > d. > m. Levi Flynn > .... same man who married her sister Lucinda..... WHAT IS SOURCE OF INFO FOR MINERVA AND LEVI FLYNN? COULD I GET A COPY? > ------------------------- > > Samuel was in Campbell Co, KY tax roll - 1815-1817-1818 > Was in Madison KY in 1820. > Other researchers: > Jeannie Bowlin = email cbowlin06@aol.com > Allan Hymer ) both belong to the Behymer Group. > William R Behymer ) > > THANK YOU SALLY FOR YOUR HELP! ROB >

Susan, This is what I have on Minerva. SAMUEL B. HYMER b. 1775-1794 VA m. Jan 11, 1811 - Madison, KY d. FATHER: DANIEL BEHYMER MOTHER: ANNA .... LYDIA LOGSDON ..... (LUDDY) B. 1775-1794 D. FATHER: JAMES LOGSDON MOTHER: ... children ------------------------- 1. Cecilia B'hymer b. May 1817 -KY d. m. Elias Logsdon, Feb 2, 1839, Madison, KY ------------- 2. Eady B.hymer b. abt 1820 d. m. Aaron Richardson Jan 30, 1840 -------------------- 3. Ann B.Hymer b. 1823/24 d. m. Dudly P Richardson --------------- 4. William B.Hymer b. 1825 KY d. m. Ann Cox (or Reynolds) bef 1863 ------------------ 5. Lucinda B.Hymer b. 1829 d. m. Levi Flynn May 6, 1845 Estill, KY (marr shows her name as Lucinda Wilmer ) -------------------------- 6. John B.Hymer b. Aug 1830 d. m. Mary Collins (Durbin) ...no marr found in Estill Co) - ------------------------------ 7. Edward B. Hymer b. Apr 1831 d. m. Mary Ann ..... ------------------- 8. Minerva Picklehimer b. Oct 14, 1837 Estill, KY d. m. Levi Flynn .... same man who married her sister Lucinda..... ------------------------- Samuel was in Campbell Co, KY tax roll - 1815-1817-1818 Was in Madison KY in 1820. Other researchers: Jeannie Bowlin = email cbowlin06@aol.com Allan Hymer ) both belong to the Behymer Group. William R Behymer ) Hope this will help a bit. If you have any corrections or additions I would appreciate a copy. I try to keep a running log on all Behymers. Sallye Martin In a message dated 9/8/99 10:07:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, susapar@regent.edu writes: << I'm trying to find my B.Hymer (or Beckelhymer or Bicklehymer, etc.) ancestors. All I know is that my g-g-grandmother was Manerva B.Hymer, who married Levi Flynn about 1864 in Estill County, KY. Her sister, Loucinda was married to him first, in 1845, but must have died. Does anyone know where these sisters came from? I've seen their last name spelled several ways (of course!). Please respond if you have any info. Susan D. Parsons Manager of Editorial Services and Publications Regent University 1000 Regent University Drive Virginia Beach, VA 23464 (757) 226-4035 >>

I'm trying to find my B.Hymer (or Beckelhymer or Bicklehymer, etc.) ancestors. All I know is that my g-g-grandmother was Manerva B.Hymer, who married Levi Flynn about 1864 in Estill County, KY. Her sister, Loucinda was married to him first, in 1845, but must have died. Does anyone know where these sisters came from? I've seen their last name spelled several ways (of course!). Please respond if you have any info. Susan D. Parsons Manager of Editorial Services and Publications Regent University 1000 Regent University Drive Virginia Beach, VA 23464 (757) 226-4035

Looking for any info anyone might have on Abraham Wilson Picklesimer. We have established a Civil War link, but that's about all. Nephew is hoping to do school history project on ancestors who fought in the Civil War. Thanks!!

Fellow Behymer researchers: I have been on a break from Behymer research for the last several months working on other lines, but have decided to get back in the hunt for the elusive Behymer. To that end, I just posted an update to my web page today. Point your browser to: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JohnDoeTippet/ The Behymer file now has 1,071 Behymer descendants posted through 6 generations from the common ancester, John George Beckelhymer, the Elder of the COB. This represents about a 20% increase from the last version (approximately 200 more names). Most of the additions are for descendants of Samuel, Jacob and Solomon. Because the file is so large it takes quite a long time to load. At some point in the near future, I will find a way to break the file up into more manageable chunks. Until then, this will have to do. Probably the most controversial change is that I have decided to show Abraham, Jr as the son of John, Sr, rather than Abraham, Sr as in the previous post. The file contains the rationale for this decision. I welcome comments, corrections, additions, etc. on any of the data contained therein. Regards... John Charles Tippet JohnDoeTippet@csi.com

Twila, Thank you for the message and for posting my line on the list. I think I am already subscribed, but when I sent the line I sent it from my office computer and so I was not recognized as a member. My mistake. As a result of your posting the message Ron Dupuy has already been in touch with me. Thanks again. Allan

Joseph All I found on Abraham Wilson Picklesimer married Jane McCall, and they were in Henderson, NC and Macon.NC and he was a son of Abraham. You might contact John Pickelsimer at JPick323@aol.com. He is working on most of the Pickelsimer family. Good luck Sallye

There is a John Behymer buried in the Behymer Private Cemetery on 10-mile Road in Pierce Township, Clermont County, OH. The tombstone reads: d. 12 Mar 1861 - 39y, 8m, 4d. That would make him born on 8 Jul 1821. Does anyone know who his parents were? Is he the son of Jesse and Lydia? John Charles Tippet JohnDoeTippet@csi.com

James M. Behymer (b: 1847, Ohio, d: ?) Edith (Eda) Oswald (Oswalt) (b: 1848, Ohio, d: ???) George Charles Behymer (b: 1884, Ohio, d: 1944, Bremerton, WA) Charlotte Maria Trojan (b: 1884, Baltimore, MD. d: 1949, Los Angeles, CA) M: 18Aug1908, San Antonio, Bexar, Texas. My mother was Anna Louise Behymer (b: 1909, San Antonio, TX. d: 1976 Eugene, OR), Her sister was Marguerite Caecilia Behymer Krick (b: 1916, San Jose, CA. d: 1970, Bremerton, WA), Me, Rob Dupuy, doopwerc@concentric.net

Deanna, No rest for the weary! We have raspberries, blackberries & boysenberries in our back yard here in eastern Washington. They do pretty well, but when it gets really hot they dry up. With what seems an early spring we are getting a few again. I thought you lived in the east - Kentucky or somewhere? Rob HolmHogs@aol.com wrote: > Hello everyone, > I'm still here, just knee deep in Blackberries. I don't know about Oregon > but in California the wild Blackberries are awesome this year, cobbler, pie, > sauce and jam. Been busy! > Deanna Adams Holm > Johan>Abraham>Jacob>Levi>Henderson>Levi>Edith Mae>Shirley Dillon>me. > > ==== BEHYMER Mailing List ==== > Behymer webpage: BillyBob's Genealogy Homepage > http://members.iglou.com/wbehymer/ > Thanks, BillyBob!

Hi, researchers! It's been great to see the renewed interest the past couple of days. It's always good to remind each other of the lines you are descended from. Would you believe that we now have 81 list members? Pretty amazing isn't it? I think we are approaching our 3rd year of existence as a group of folks researching our roots to the Bechtelheimer family together. If you've been away for the summer, welcome back! Let's continue to post the individual lines that we are interested in. And you new folks, jump right in! Maybe it's the right time for new discoveries about our origins. Twila Listowner

Elizabeth: We used to have a couple Beymer researchers on this list, but don't know if they are still with us. To date we have not found a connection between the names Beymer and Behymer. There are many variations, but there's been no evidence that this is one of them. Are there any Beymers out there that could respond to Elizabeth? Twila Listowner Elizabeth Periman wrote: > I have three separate entries for the Beymer name and would like to know if > they are connect. > Catherine BEYMER married Jacob UMSTOTT (1813-1888) probably in either WV or > Ohio. > Bateman BEYMER married Elizabeth MILLER 26 Aug 1851, Guernsey Co. OH > Joseph BEYMER married Susan Miller 21 July 1840 in Guernsey Co. OH > > Elizabeth in Texas > eperiman@1starnet.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Veysey <veysey@coos.or.us> > To: <BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 1:06 PM > Subject: Re: Picklesimer's > > > > > > > JanandErn@aol.com wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > I just found your web page and signed up for the list. Is it possible > to > > > see the > > > post of the other ones to see if anyone is from my direct line? > > > > > > Thank you, Janis Watson > > > > Janis, > > > > Our list has been very quiet this summer. Don't know if folks have become > > disinterested or just busy. Post your Behymer/Picklesimer names and we > will > > let you know how you fit into the family tree. This is a plea to all you > list > > members out there to respond to Janis and several other new folks who have > > recently signed on. They want to know how to access our information. > Don't > > let them down. > > > > Twila > > Listowner > > > > > > ==== BEHYMER Mailing List ==== > > Check this out: The Picklesimers of Eastern Kentucky > > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/p/i/c/John-W-Picklesimer/index.html > > Thanks, John! > > > > > > ==== BEHYMER Mailing List ==== > Behymer webpage: BillyBob's Genealogy Homepage > http://members.iglou.com/wbehymer/ > Thanks, BillyBob!

Allan: Thanks for submitting your line to our list. I forwarded it on to the Behymer list. It didn't make it through on its own, because you are not a member of the list. I encourage you to subscribe. Our list has been very quiet this summer. I'm not sure why. Hopefully things will pick up soon. We have been very active in the past and there is alot of Behymer information out there among this group. Your name is a new variation. I don't think we've seen a name like Elijah Bequel Hymer. Interesting. I do believe we have another Hymer on the list though. Welcome and thanks for the info. I hope we can be of help to you. Twila Listowner Hymer. Allan, OMC wrote: > My line: > > Johan Georg Beckelhymer > Abraham Beckelhymer & Christenah > Daniel Beckelhymer & Anna (or Ruth) > Samuel Behymer & Lydia Logsdon > William B. Hymer & Ann Cox > Elijah Bequel Hymer & Ella Sadie > Wright > Dee Roy Hymer & Frances > Weddell > William Ray Hymer & > Ramona Ratledge > Me. > > Allan D. Hymer > ahymer@value.net

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My direct line of Bechtelheimer's is as follows: JOSEPH BECHTELHEIMER & CHRISTINA LAZENA SAMUEL H. BECHTELHEIMER & RACHEL KESSLER SIMEON BECHTELHEIMER & ELIZABETH STUMP DELANO VICTOR BECHTELHEIMER & ITHA SEDINA DOUB VERNON DALLAS BECHTELHEIMER } My Grand- & MARJORIE MARIE BOUSE ) Parents Pam...Reno, NV __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

How can I see a copy of this book Shar

Here is what I believe my line to be: Johan George Beckelhymer Abraham B Beckelhymer & Christenah Jacob Beckelhymer & Christina Aaron Beckelhymer Sr. & Fanny Robb Aaron Beckelhymer Jr. & Hester Idlet Mary Leola Beckelhimer - my great grandmother