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    1. Systems down
    2. Linda Adkinson
    3. I was just checking to see if the BEHYMER list is up and going now. If we sent messages while it was down, will they show up when the system is fixed or do we need to resubmit them? Linda

    09/13/1998 11:29:17
    1. Re: P'Simmer's
    2. Tom Robison
    3. >SUSAN L DEBRUNNER wrote: For example, I received > replies to John's post about setting up a site a day or two before I got his > original post. > > Anyone else having this trouble? And is it with my server or the Behymer > mailing list server, or is there really any way to determine the source of > the difficulty? This is not a poke at Prodigy or AOL or anyone else, but I've noticed on more than one occasion that the online services, such as those mentioned above, sometimes do not deliver e-mail immediately. The direct connection servers also sometimes delay e-mail, (whether intentionally or not I don't know) but it seems the services like AOL are more prone to it, especially in high-traffic periods. Also, Rootsweb has been having trouble lately. Their server was down yesterday, and may still be this morning. As a test, check the time you received this message. I'm sending it at 10:22 AM (central time) Sunday, 13 Sep 1998. Tom Tom Robison Ossian, Indiana tcrobi@adamswells.com Never forget the importance of history. To know nothing of what happened before you took your place on earth, is to remain a child forever. [unknown]

    09/13/1998 09:24:35
    1. Sorting Out Johns
    2. John Tippet
    3. No, I don't mean Sidewalk Sally's favorite customers, I mean all of those John Behymers who show up as heads of household in the 1820, 1830 and 1840 censuses. Ever wonder which John Behymer was which? Well, I think I have the answer. It has taken me a while to sort them out, but here are my conclusions, a little contribution to the Behymer list (note: there are a few holes and some speculation, so I welcome comments, corrections, additions, etc): 1820 - Clermont County, OH John Behymer (000100/00100) This is John Abraham Behymer (son of Joseph Behymer and Christina Lazena) and his wife Margaret Short 1820 - Preble County, OH Jonathan Behymer (000010/00100) This is Jonathan Behymer (thought to be one of the 9 or more original brothers and son of John Behymer, Sr and Anne Elizabeth Rinker) and his wife, ? Note: The maiden name of John, Sr's wife, Rinker, comes from the IGI, and, as far as I no, has not been verified; her first name has variously been recorded as Anne and Elizabeth; according to John & John Pickelsimer in their book, Pickelsimers of Eastern Kentucky, they conclude that they are one and the same person, i.e., Anne Elizabeth) 1830 - Clermont County, OH John Behymer (0000100000000/0001000000000) This is John Behymer (son of Samuel Behymer and Catherine Logan) and his wife, Nancy Leach John Behymer (0200010000000/4100100000000) This is John Behymer (son of Nathaniel Behymer and Anna Magdalena ?) and his wife, Jane Meeker 2 male children 5-10 Nathaniel, William M 4 female children 0-5 Ann, Harriett J, Caroline, ? 1 female child 5-10 Charity John Behymer (1100010000000/2100100000000) This is John Abraham Behymer (son of Joseph Behymer and Christina Lazena) and his wife Margaret Short 1 Male child 0-5 Elijah 1 male child 5-10 Isaac 2 female children 0-5 ?, ? 1 female child 5-10 Mary Jonathan Behymer (0000001000000/0000001000000) This is Jonathan Behymer (thought to be one of the 9 or more original brothers and son of John Behymer, Sr and Anne Elizabeth Rinker) and his wife, ? 1830 - Lawrence County, IN John Behymer (1311201000000/1000001000000) This is John L(eonard) Behymer (probable son of John Behymer, Jr and Barbara Weddle) and his wife, Charity Ann Harger (or Anna Henry or Anna Hunter) 1 male child 0-5 Lemuel (or Samuel) 3 male children 5-10 Thomas, Alexander, ? 1 male child 10-15 Benjamin W 1 male child 15-20 Henry (or James?) 2 male children 20-30 Charles, Andrew 1 female child 0-5 Rebecca 1840 - Clermont County, OH John Behymer (3200010000000/01001) This is John Behymer (son of Samuel Behymer and Catherine Logan) and his wife, Nancy Leach 3 male children 0-5 Perry, Jerome, Lexias 2 male children 5-10 Barrington, Clarrington 1 female child 5-10 Emily John Behymer (0000100000000/1000100000000) This is John Behymer (son of Solomon Behymer and Mary Webb) and his wife, Sarah John 1 female child 0-5 Mary A John Behymer (0000100000000/0100100000000) This may be John Behymer (son of Jacob Behymer and Elizabeth France) and his wife, Martha Medaris as he is shown living next to Elias and Daniel Behymer, known sons of Jacob and Elizabeth. There should be two sons, however, one in the 0-5 (Jacob M) and one in the 5-10 category (William S) which are not listed, so this is somewhat of a speculation on my part - comments? 1 female child 5-10 ? 1840 - Fulton County, IL John Behymer (2011100100000/1101100100000) This is John L(eonard) Behymer (probable son of John Behymer, Jr and Barbara Weddle) and his wife, Charity Ann Harger (or Anna Henry or Anna Hunter) 2 male children 0-5 ?, ? (likely grandchildren) 1 male child 10-15 Lemuel (or Samuel) 1 male child 15-20 Thomas 1 male child 20-30 Alexander 1 female child 0-5 ? (likely grandchild) 1 female child 5-10 ? (likely grandchild) 1 female child 15-20 Rebecca 1 female child 20-30 Catherine 1840 - Clay County, IN John Behymer (0011001000000/2221010000000) This is John Abraham Behymer (son of Joseph Behymer and Christina Lazena) and his wife Margaret Short 1 male child 10-15 Elijah 1 male child 15-20 Isaac 2 female children 0-5 Christiana, Elizabeth 2 female children 5-10 Charlotte, Catherine 2 female children 10-15 ?, ? 1 female child 15-20 Mary

    09/13/1998 09:12:32
    1. Re: Trouble with list
    2. Veysey
    3. Jen is our list manager. We really need her to respond to these questions. At present she appears to be AWOL. Is there anyone who might know how to contact her? Twila Linda Adkinson wrote: > I'm not having any trouble that I know of except I subscribed to the > digest mode and seem to receive all messages seperate and in digest > form. I'm afraid to unsubscribe to one as when I did that in the past, > I stopped getting both! > > Linda

    09/12/1998 12:54:45
    1. Re: Beckelhimer Info
    2. Barb Stanley
    3. ............................................................................ ....... I plan on >following up this research by checking the Montgomery County, VA census >records to see where Isaac can be found. I welcome comments to this >hypothesis, and would be very interested in exchanging information on any >of the Behymer descendants mentioned herein. > >John Charles Tippet >JohnDoeTippet@csi.com ========================================= This may or may not help ---------- 1820 Montgomery Co., Va. Census Isaac Becklehimer 2 males under 10 1 male of 16 and under 26 1 male of 26 and under 45 2 females under 10 2 females of 10 and under 16 1 female of 26 and under 45 1830 Montgomery Co., Va. Census Isaac Becklehimer Males: 1 under 5 years 1 of 15 and under 20 1 of 40 and under 50 Females: 1 under 5 1 of 5 and under 10 1 of 20 and under 30 1 of 60 and under 70 1840 not listed 1850 Montgomery Co., Va. Isaac Becklehimer - 62 - m - distiller Rachel - 33 Abraham West - 21 - laborer Barb S.

    09/12/1998 12:51:36
    1. Trouble with list
    2. Linda Adkinson
    3. I'm not having any trouble that I know of except I subscribed to the digest mode and seem to receive all messages seperate and in digest form. I'm afraid to unsubscribe to one as when I did that in the past, I stopped getting both! Linda

    09/12/1998 12:30:44
    1. Re: P'Simmer's
    2. Barb Stanley
    3. I seem to be having some trouble also. I have never received the message below from Eileen. At least I don't remember it if I did. I have no information at all on Elizabeth Pickle/Picklesimer except that she married Peter Poff/Pauff and they lived and died in Montgomery/Floyd Co., Va. I don't even have documentation of her last name. They would have been married about 1790. I've gathered all the documents I can find on the Picklesimers in Montgomery, Floyd and Franklin Co. but cannot find a link. The only thing I've found that mentions Poff/Pauff and Picklesimer in the same document is a land survey in which Peter Poff was the "assignee" of Joseph Picklesimer. I found two Joseph Picklesimers - one married Susannah Trout in Franklin Co. in 1797 and the other married Christina Lazera in Franklin Co. in 1793. Both of these Joseph's would probably have been the right age to be the brother of Elizabeth assuming these were their first marriages. I also found a Betsy (my Elizabeth was also known as Betsy) Picklesimer but she married David Landes in Franklin Co. and Elizabeth Picklesimon who married Melcher Wagoner in Franklin Co. There were plenty of Elizabeth Picklesimers but none married to a Poff/Pauff. They may even have been married in Augusta Co. before they came to Montgomery/Floyd. But I find no record there either. I live in Roanoke Co. which is within 30 miles of Montgomery, Floyd and Franklin so I get anything I find on these names. If I ever make the connection I'm all set!! :-) As for the name Stanley -- my husband's family were from Franklin Co., Va. with some migrating to Pike Co., KY. His third great grandfather died in Pike Co., KY in 1843 but the majority of his direct line stayed in Virginia. Barb S. =====================================================At 10:33 AM 9/12/98 -0400, you wrote: >Hi all... > >Just a question here....I noticed that Twila sent on a letter from Kathy >since her things are not reaching the mailing list. The posts I am getting >are coming in a completely non-sequential order. For example, I received >replies to John's post about setting up a site a day or two before I got his >original post. > >Anyone else having this trouble? And is it with my server or the Behymer >mailing list server, or is there really any way to determine the source of >the difficulty? > >Thanks for any help... > >---Susan > >-----Original Message----- >From: Eileen Rice <helen@ptsi.net> >To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com <BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Thursday, September 10, 1998 3:40 PM >Subject: P'Simmer's > > >>Linda, Who does Samuel Webb decent from? >>Eileen >> >>Barbara. I am interesed in your info on Elizabeth Picklesimmer and also >>your last name of Stanley. are you related to the Stanley's from >>Saylerville Ky. >>Eileen >> >

    09/12/1998 12:23:49
    1. Re: P'Simmer's
    2. Veysey
    3. SUSAN L DEBRUNNER wrote: > Hi all... > > Just a question here....I noticed that Twila sent on a letter from Kathy > since her things are not reaching the mailing list. The posts I am getting > are coming in a completely non-sequential order. For example, I received > replies to John's post about setting up a site a day or two before I got his > original post. > > Anyone else having this trouble? And is it with my server or the Behymer > mailing list server, or is there really any way to determine the source of > the difficulty? > > Thanks for any help... > > ---Susan Susan, I'm not having any trouble. Everything has been arriving in order at my computer. Twila

    09/12/1998 10:50:48
    1. Fwd: LEVI & LAVINA (COLMAN) BECKELHYMER
    2. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_905628121_boundary Content-ID: <0_905628121@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Dave I understand you are descended from Benjamin and Jane Ferguson. I am descended from his brother Martin and Nancy Lindsey. Thank heavens.. you are the first one who is in the John and Barbara (Weddle) Behymer group that I know of or have had any correspondence with on the net. Benjamin Beckelhymer, Thomas, Isaac and James Ferguson. It appears they bought land in Fountain Co, IN, about 1810, then returned to Clermont Co, OH. Benjamin returned to IN in 1827, bringing Eunice Fitzpatrick and 4 children of his first wife, Jane Ferguson. 1. PETER b. 1820.Sep.06 OH.Clermont d. Mar 1852 IN.Fountain m Manerva Webb, 1842.Mar.20 IN.Fountain 2. ENOS b. abt 1821 d. 1843.Nov.27 IN.Fountain...cem u/k to me 3. ISAIAH b. 1822.Mar.03 OH.Clermont d. 1893.Jun.29 NE. m. Abi Carman 1844.Jan.07 IN.Parke 4. LEVI b. 1823.Sep.07 OH.Clermont d. 1909.Jan.02 IN.Fountain m. Lavina Colman, 1851.Sep.07 IN>Fountain As far as I can tell, Benjamin and Eunice might have had 1 child. Benjamin died 1844.Apr.07 IN.Fountain.Wabash.Old Coleman Farm There should be a will and/or probate records for Benjamin in Fountain Co. I just never got around to checking it out. Isaiah Ferguson named ISAIAH & LEVI BECKELHYMER in his will (Clermont Co OH -dec 1851) (I have never figured out why he didn't name Peter???) My records on Levi and Lavina show 4 children. LEVI & LAVINA COLEMAN children. 1. WILLIAM b. abt 1852 d. abt 1852 2. CLARICY (CLARISSA) b. 1854 IN.fountain d. 1893.Aug.29 IN.Fountain 3. LINDSEY b. 1856.Apr.13 IN.Fountain d. 1927.Feb.28 m. Emma A. Hall 4. ISAIAH b. 1860.Jul.17 IN.Fountain d. 1951.Apr.12 IN.Fountain m. Anna Eliza Haggart 1889.Nov.12 IN.Vigo A lot of the material on this family was researched by Rosemarie (Ellis) Beckelhymer Sutherlin, Rt 1, Veedersburg, IN, back in late 80's. Lindsey had 1 child Virgil b. Jul 1888 Isaiah had 5 children, and Rosemarie was the wife of Joe, a descendant of Joseph Russel. Hope this helps you. I would enjoy any information you have on Benjamins family. I should have done more research on this family, but time slipped by. Sallye --part0_905628121_boundary Content-ID: <0_905628121@inet_out.mail.csi.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: <johndoetippet@csi.com> Received: from relay30.mx.aol.com (relay30.mail.aol.com [172.31.109.30]) by air11.mail.aol.com (v49.1) with SMTP; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:25:15 -0400 Received: from NIH2WAAF (smtp6.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.75]) by relay30.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id LAA28047 for <salgundy@aol.com>; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:23:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:23:54 -0400 Sender: johndoetippet@csi.com Received: from 76361.636.compuserve.com (sf-dnpqp-044.compuserve.net [209.154.102.44]) by hil-img-ims-4.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.4) with ESMTP id LAA22028; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:23:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809121523.LAA22028@hil-img-ims-4.compuserve.com> From: "John Tippet" <johndoetippet@csi.com> To: "Dave Park" <davepark@postoffice.ptd.net>, "Sallye Gundy" <SalGundy@aol.com> Subject: Re: beckelhymer line Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 08:05:33 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Dave: I don't have much on this line. I do have a copy of the 1840 census for Benjamin in Fountain County, IN that lists his family as 0004001, 01001. The 1820 census in Clermont County, OH lists his family as 0001, 001. I have not found Benjamin in any 1830 census. The Clermont County marriage records also record Benjamin's first marriage to Jane Furguson on 17 Oct 1819 and to his second wife, Eunice Fitzpatrick, on 12 Sep 1824. Since Benjamin is the son of John, Jr, I'll bet Sallye Gundy, however, can help you fill in the gaps since she is also related to John Jr. Sallye? BTW: have you seen my proposal to post the Behymer genealogy to the Internet? Would you be willing to help by providing data on your lines? John Charles Tippet JohnDoeTippet@csi.com ---------- From: Dave Park <davepark@postoffice.ptd.net> To: JohnDoeTippet@csi.com Subject: beckelhymer line Date: Friday, September 11, 1998 1:55 PM John: My mother is a Beckelhymer from Indiana; do you have info on a Levi Beckelhymer (9-23-1823 b. in Ohio to Benjamin B. and Jane Ferguson)???? I See that you have info from Hunterdon Co, NJ, Franklin Co, VI, and Clermon= t Co, Ohio; Levi was born in Clermont County, Batavia, Ohio;he would be my gggrandfather; don't have info much further back and would appreciate any assistance. Thanks! Deb --part0_905628121_boundary--

    09/12/1998 09:22:00
    1. Re: Research sources
    2. John Tippet
    3. Sallye: I realize that this may be a time-consuming task (just answering the responses to my proposal has been a challenge), but I think it would be fun! This has been the most entertaining and interesting mailing list that I have participated in. ---------- > From: SalGundy@aol.com > To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Research sources > Date: Friday, September 11, 1998 11:14 AM > > ....to all Behymer/Becklehymer/Picklehymer researchers.... > > I'm sorry I stirred up such a hornets nest, but in the long run, it may be for > the best. When I first started researching my family background, it never > entered my mind to write down the resources, later finding out that I had to > go back and find those resources. We are all inclined to take for granted > that the material we receive is (to the best of their knowledge) the gospel > facts. Even reading "History books" or obits, cemetery inscriptions, we > can't necessarily take that information for "facts". It is best if we can > find court records, i.e., births, marriages, deaths, land transactions, etc. > This is not to say that the "History Books" etc do not give us a basis to > research out the material, for all that material does give us a basis to work > with. > > I note that John Tippet has a good suggestion in one of his e-mails. If we > combine all the research material together with our family, it will make a > good resource to Behymer references. JOHN, you are taking on a time > consuming job if all agree to this. >

    09/12/1998 08:59:38
    1. Re: Beckelhimer Info
    2. John Tippet
    3. Dulca: The following is something I posted to the Behymer list a while back. It pertains to the line you mentioned. I would be interested in knowing more about the Aaron, born in 1814, and any comments on my hypothesis indicated below. Also, are you sure that Jacob had 8 children only? Unfortunately, I don't have much more info on this branch. I don't know if you have read my proposal re: posting the Behymer genealogy to the Internet. Would you be willing to help by providing data on the lines you indicated in your E-mail? I have been doing a fair amount of research of late, trying to piece together the relationships of all of the early Behymers who migrated from Virginia in Clermont County, Ohio in the early 1800s. One of the things that has always bothered me was not knowing the parentage of the two Behymers who lived in Washington and Monroe townships in the 1820 to 1850 time frame. These would be Aaron and James Behymer. They are thought to have been brothers, and they do not fit in as descendants of any of the 9 (or more) Behymer brothers who resided in Ohio township. These would be: John, Jr, Samuel, Joseph, Nathaniel, Jacob, Jonathan, Solomon, Joel, David (and perhaps Daniel and Enos/Enoch). The latter brothers all appear to descend from John Behymer, Sr. This same conclusion regarding the parentage of Aaron and James Behymer was arrived at by Edith Beach Sipple who wrote and published a genealogy on their descendants, entitled: Deep Roots, Beckelhymer, and by Mrs Luella Wagner, who wrote and published a similar treatise entitled: Family History of Michael Jackson Behimer (1860-1918). In going through the census records in detail, combined with a recent E-mail sent to this list from HolmHogs@aol.com on 1 Aug 1998 and the information contained in the well-researched book: The Picklesimers of Eastern Kentucky by John Wayne and John Walter Picklesimer, I now have a reasonable hypothesis for the parentage of the two Behymers in question. My conclusion is that Jacob, Jr, probable son of Abraham, Sr (brother of the John, Sr mentioned above), and husband of Christina, who resided for most of their life in Montgomery County, VA are the parents of the Aaron and James Behymer who settled in Washington township, Clermont County, OH. I arrive at this conclusion as follows: (1) In 1840, there is a Moses, William and Isaac Behymer, all residing in Washington township along with James and Aaron. Based on the 1840 census return, they would have been born as follows: Isaac (1780-1790), Aaron (1790-1800), Moses (1800-1810), William (1800-1810) and James (1800-1810). (2) All of the above names, i.e.: Isaac, Aaron, Moses, William and James are recorded in the bible that was referred to in the E-mail from HolmHogs@aol.com. (3) The birth dates recorded in the bible for the above Behymers are respectively: 1788, Oct 27, 1814, Nov 13, 1799, Jul 15, 1802 and Mar 3, 1805. These birth dates are consistent with the census birth dates except for Moses and Aaron. As Moses married in Clermont County to Peggy Perkizer in 1821, he would likely have been born approximately in the year 1800, close enough to the 1799 date recorded in the bible. The birth dates for the two Aaron's are significantly different, however, it is probable that not all of the names found in the early bible are, in fact, children of Jacob and Christina, only that they were close relations. The Aaron that was recorded could have been a grandchild of Jacob and Christina. The same is probably the case for some of the other names therein recorded: Cary, Morgan, Wm. Jackson and Amanda, e.g. Four of the names recorded in the bible were faded and illegible. One of these was Levi, per the HolmHogs@aol.com E-mail. My guess is that one of these was also the elder Aaron who settled in Clermont County, OH. (4) There is one fly in the ointment, however: From other family records, including the two books indicated above, James Behymer was born 9 Apr 1805, close to the Mar 3, 1805 date recorded in the bible, but not exact. (5) James Behymer married Margaret Purkiser, making another connection with Moses who married Peggy Perkiser in 1821. Note: these are two separate Margaret/Peggys. A Moses Behymer married Martha Grant in 1837 and Elizabeth Floorea in 1838. Is this the same Moses, who married three separate times? (6) William married Rachel Pursley in 1823. They had 4 children, and he died in Clermont County in 1842. I have very little data on the children of Moses and William Behymer. Also, other than in the 1840 census, there is no trace of Isaac in Clermont County. Perhaps he took a vacation in 1840 to visit his younger brothers in Clermont County, returning to VA shortly thereafter. I plan on following up this research by checking the Montgomery County, VA census records to see where Isaac can be found. I welcome comments to this hypothesis, and would be very interested in exchanging information on any of the Behymer descendants mentioned herein. John Charles Tippet JohnDoeTippet@csi.com ---------- > From: ToDulca@aol.com > To: johndoetippet@csi.com > Subject: Beckelhimer Info > Date: Friday, September 11, 1998 9:20 AM > > John, My gr grandmother was a Beckelhimer and I am trying to gather > information about her family. What I have so far is: > Abraham Becklehimer with two sons, Jacob b: August 20, 1761 and Daniel. > Jacob had 8 children, Isaac 1788, Moses 1799, William 1802, James 1805, Levi > 1810, Cary 1813, Aaron 1814, Morgan 1821. It seems they changed the name to > Beckelhimer with the children - ? > Aaron had 6 children, Mary Leola 1859 (my gr grandmother) Elizabeth, William, > Sarah, James, Emma & Andrew. I do not have dates on any but May Leola. > Mary Leola married John C. Creasman Dec 4, 1876 and they had 3 children live > to adults with possible 3-4 being buried in Missouri as infants. > Would you have more information on this line of the family? I have been > reading the comments on rootsweb and it can get confusing with all the > different spellings of the name in the one family. Any help you can give > would be appreciated. > Dulca (like Tulsa with a D)

    09/12/1998 08:42:47
    1. Re: P'Simmer's
    2. SUSAN L DEBRUNNER
    3. Hi all... Just a question here....I noticed that Twila sent on a letter from Kathy since her things are not reaching the mailing list. The posts I am getting are coming in a completely non-sequential order. For example, I received replies to John's post about setting up a site a day or two before I got his original post. Anyone else having this trouble? And is it with my server or the Behymer mailing list server, or is there really any way to determine the source of the difficulty? Thanks for any help... ---Susan -----Original Message----- From: Eileen Rice <helen@ptsi.net> To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com <BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, September 10, 1998 3:40 PM Subject: P'Simmer's >Linda, Who does Samuel Webb decent from? >Eileen > >Barbara. I am interesed in your info on Elizabeth Picklesimmer and also >your last name of Stanley. are you related to the Stanley's from >Saylerville Ky. >Eileen >

    09/12/1998 08:33:35
    1. Re: A Proposal
    2. John Tippet
    3. Tom: As far as the 9, 10 or 11 children of John Behymer, the best we can do until someone makes a breakthrough is to annotate the database to make it clear where some of the data may be conflicting or used as a place-holder until more information comes along. This ain't a perfect science! John Charles Tippet JohnDoeTippet@csi.com ---------- > From: Tom Robison <tcrobi@adamswells.com> > To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: A Proposal > Date: Friday, September 11, 1998 11:53 PM > > John Tippet wrote: > > >I agree with Twila that the recent flurry of activity on this list is quite > >refreshing. I also agree with Sallye that it is important to document all > >of the sources for all of the genealogical information. That is how I was > >able to nail Tom Robison (sorry Tom). > > What? You mean I have to document EVERY source? Phooey, now you're taking > all the fun out of it! ;>) > > You didn't nail me, John, I nailed myself (kinda reminds ya of some other > fella who's in the news right now, wot?) But I'm used to the abuse from > this list, these folks are ruthless! > > >snip< > Over time, the Internet database could evolve into the > >"officially accepted" version of the Behymer genealogy. > > I'm all for it, John, but there's gonna be a fight, right away. We never > really nailed down the 9, 10, or 11 sons (or daughters) of the mysterious > Jonathan. We worked on it for several months, as I recall, but it appeared > to be unresolvable, and interest waned. > > I guess you'll just have to take your chances and post what you have, but > be prepared to take cover when the arrows come flying in! > > I'll help in any way I can. Go for it! > > Tom > > > > Tom Robison > Ossian, Indiana > tcrobi@adamswells.com > > Never forget the importance of history. To know nothing of > what happened before you took your place on earth, > is to remain a child forever. [unknown] > > >

    09/12/1998 08:28:37
    1. Re: A Proposal
    2. Linda Adkinson
    3. John, What a great idea! Most of the info I have is from these lists, but, I have a few records from Campbell Co. censuses and would be happy to share anything on my immediate family to help verify the facts. I, too, am a stickler for details. Let me know how I can help. Linda

    09/12/1998 08:08:18
    1. Re: A Proposal
    2. Tom Robison
    3. John Tippet wrote: >I agree with Twila that the recent flurry of activity on this list is quite >refreshing. I also agree with Sallye that it is important to document all >of the sources for all of the genealogical information. That is how I was >able to nail Tom Robison (sorry Tom). What? You mean I have to document EVERY source? Phooey, now you're taking all the fun out of it! ;>) You didn't nail me, John, I nailed myself (kinda reminds ya of some other fella who's in the news right now, wot?) But I'm used to the abuse from this list, these folks are ruthless! >snip< Over time, the Internet database could evolve into the >"officially accepted" version of the Behymer genealogy. I'm all for it, John, but there's gonna be a fight, right away. We never really nailed down the 9, 10, or 11 sons (or daughters) of the mysterious Jonathan. We worked on it for several months, as I recall, but it appeared to be unresolvable, and interest waned. I guess you'll just have to take your chances and post what you have, but be prepared to take cover when the arrows come flying in! I'll help in any way I can. Go for it! Tom Tom Robison Ossian, Indiana tcrobi@adamswells.com Never forget the importance of history. To know nothing of what happened before you took your place on earth, is to remain a child forever. [unknown]

    09/12/1998 12:53:21
    1. suspect date
    2. Tom Robison
    3. Hi, all- I've searched through all my old records, even went to the attic to dig out really old handwritten records I kept before the advent of the personal confuser. Everywhere that I have the marriage of Solomon Behymer and Polly Webb recorded, I have 2/2/1804. Alas, there is no provenance of same. Back in the late 1970s, when the first rumblings of genealogical interest began to stir in my breast, I remember looking through some books of my Grandmother. She had dabbled in the family history for a while, but never really pursued it. (her mother was a Behymer, and thus my connection to this list.) I remember copying some of her notes, and it's possible this is where I got the date. (another alas: She died in 1982, and her notes and a bible that had other info in it disappeared. Her son (my uncle) and her brother would have been the only two folks who might have taken the stuff, but despite repeated pleading to search again, they both insisted they've never seen it. I suppose it got mixed in with some trash, or was sold amongst other stuff at auction. I could just scream). Grandma's brother died about 6 months ago, and I've alerted his children to keep an eye out for anything that might be related to family records. So, all I can say is, the date is recorded in my earliest genealogical files, but I have no source to prove it. c'est la vie... Tom Tom Robison Ossian, Indiana tcrobi@adamswells.com Never forget the importance of history. To know nothing of what happened before you took your place on earth, is to remain a child forever. [unknown]

    09/11/1998 11:26:30
    1. [Fwd: My 2 cents worth]
    2. Veysey
    3. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------7C0BCF5BF7907307E6841411 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm forwarding this from Kathy. Note the date she supposedly sent it. Could be the reason why her mail isn't going through. --------------7C0BCF5BF7907307E6841411 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <friendlm@trianglenet.net> Received: from trianglenet.net (trianglenet.net [205.242.90.79]) by mail.coos.or.us (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02808 for <veysey@coos.or.us>; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:00:44 -0700 Received: from trianglenet.net (mackinaw-ppp17.trianglenet.net [206.158.175.48]) by trianglenet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA30060 for <veysey@coos.or.us>; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:00:42 -0500 Message-ID: <FFFFFFFF.10C03390@trianglenet.net> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000 From: Kathy Friend <friendlm@trianglenet.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: veysey@coos.or.us Subject: My 2 cents worth Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Twila, Can you send this to the Behymer Mailing List for me? My e-mails do not appear when they're sent. I would like to see one web page for all the Behymer/Picklesimer family research. If we could possibly contact Jen, maybe the page could be added to and updated. I feel that it would be much easier for a new internet researcher if all the info were in one place. Just my 2 cents worth. I haven't done any Behymer research, thus nothing on the mailing list from me. Hope all of you had a nice summer. Enjoy our fall season while you can. Winter will be here before long. Kathy Graham Friend --------------7C0BCF5BF7907307E6841411--

    09/11/1998 10:57:17
    1. Re: A Proposal
    2. SUSAN L DEBRUNNER
    3. -----Original Message----- From: Veysey <veysey@coos.or.us> To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com <BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, September 11, 1998 12:00 PM Subject: Re: A Proposal > > >John Tippet wrote:(snip) > >> What we need (being an engineer) is configuration management, i.e., a way >> of keeping everything up-to-date and documented. What I propose is that we >> post a working version of the Behymer genealogy on the Internet, say on >> rootsweb. I am a willing volunteer to do this, and I already have quite an >> extensive database that I maintain using The Master Genealogist; this >> program can easily print out a descendancy narrative in html format that >> can be uploaded to the Internet. That would give this whole list something >> to shoot arrows at, provide corrections, additions, etc. In addition, I >> could answer any questions regarding the sources of information for any >> data in question. As new information comes in, I would periodically post >> an update to the Internet, and send out an E-mail to this list indicating >> what has changed. Over time, the Internet database could evolve into the >> "officially accepted" version of the Behymer genealogy. >> > > > >> Let me know of anyone wants to take me up on this offer. >> >> John Charles Tippet >> JohnDoeTippet@csi.com > > John: > >Go for it. I think that's a wonderful suggestion and really appreciate your >offer. Please keep us informed as to what we can do to help. > >As for the website, it hasn't been updated in a long time. We need to hear >from Jen first, but I think we should consider making some changes to it also. > > >Twila > Dear John, Twila, and all, I would be interested in helping/supporting the idea of the website/data collection site in any way I can. Please let me know what I can do. ---Susan

    09/11/1998 01:13:27
    1. Behymer web site
    2. Barb Stanley
    3. Could someone give me the URL for the Behymer web site? Thanks, Barb S.

    09/11/1998 11:07:21
    1. Re: Behymer web site
    2. Veysey
    3. Barb Stanley wrote: > Could someone give me the URL for the Behymer web site? > > Thanks, > Barb S. It is: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland Hills/3927/

    09/11/1998 10:04:01