Twila, I am still working on verifying my exact lineage but think is goes this way (with Sallye's assistance). Please add me to the roster. Nathaniel Behymer (m. Anna Magdelaine ......) John Behymer (m. Jane Meeker) Harriet Jane Behymer (gg grandmother) (m. William L. Jackson 19 Nov 1846 in Ripley Co. IN; b. 5 Dec 1828 in Ohio; d. 22 May 1911 in Sterling,Logan Co, CO, bur Riverside Cem, Sterling, CO; 12 childred born - 7 boys & 5 girls) Thanks, Kay Massey 27466 Fern Ridge Rd Sweet Home, OR 97386 Phone (541)367-8687 e-mail: massey@proaxis.com

Sallye: John Wayne and John Walter make a pretty good argument in their book: The Picklesimers of Eastern Kentucky that John, Jr's mother was Sophia Slingluff and not Elizabeth Rinker. Thus, John, Jr would be a half-brother to the other 9 (or so) Behymers who migrated from Virginia to Clermont, Ohio. Just my two cents worth... John Charles Tippet JohnDoeTippet@csi.com ---------- > From: SalGundy@aol.com > To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: New Roster > Date: Friday, September 25, 1998 9:57 AM > > Stick me in the Roster also....thanks > > > > 1. Johan George Becktelhymer, The Elder (questionable) > 2. John and Elizabeth (Rinker??) Beckelhymer (questionable) > 3. John and Barbara (Weddle) Beckelhymer/Behymer 1754-1812 > 4. Martin and Elizabeth (Lindsay) Behymer 1794-1881 > 5. Leroy Elmore and Sarah Jane (Nelson) Behymer 1832-1901 > 6. Henry and Mary Elizabeth (Behymer) Gundy she= 1856-1941 > 7. Leroy Elmore and Julia Grace (Manze) Gundy 1883-1944 > 8. Robert C. and Thelma Grace "Sallye" (Gundy) Martin 1923- > > Are we getting a copy of the Roster? > > Sallye >

Bravo! I couldn't have said it better. That's just one of the things that makes researching this family's history so intriguing. ---------- > From: Veysey <veysey@coos.or.us> > To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Too many Johns > Date: Friday, September 25, 1998 9:58 PM > > John T: > > O.K. There's Johan, his son John (also known as Jonathan) and his grandson > John (also known as Joseph). > Now this John/Joseph has 9-13 children, including a John Jr., a Joseph, and > a Jonathan. What family would do that? Actually John/Joseph was Joseph > first, according to Aaron's diary. He later changed his name to John. Why > would he change his name to John, if he had a son named John and another > one named Jonathan? And why would he name his son John Jr., if his real > name was Joseph? > > Now maybe John T., John Wayne and any other Johns on this list can shed > some light on this problem. > > Until later, > > Twila > > P.S. Are there any Josephs out there? >

Way to go, John!! I have been super busy this summer, but I have been reading all the Behymer posts. Please keep me on the roster, Twila. My lineage is (still) as follows: Jonathan Behymer (Bechtelheimer - whatever) Nathaniel Behymer John Behymer (married Jane Meeker) Andrew Jackson Behymer Sarah Ellen Behymer (my gr-grandmother) Wilfred Pennington

Tom: Thanks for posting your children of Jonathan table. I've been meaning to look that up again, but didn't know where to find it. Obviously, you keep much more organized records than I do. Actually, I have papers piled all around my computer. Only I know what each pile means and heaven help the person who moves them! Your chart may stimulate some conversation as we try to sort this out . . .again. Twila Tom Robison wrote: > Hi, all, > > I ashamedly admit that I have not yet looked at John Tippet's web page, but > judging from the messages to the list of the past few days, I take it there > is some consternation as to John/Jonathan Behymer's lineage. > > Following is a chart I first prepared in April of 1997 when we were hot on > the trail of "Jonathan's kids". I publish it here again to illustrate the > variety of records that are still out there, and that "official" records > can often be contradictory to the point of madness. > > Comments? > > Jonathan's children: > >====================================================================== > > A B C D E F > >1 Samuel Samuel John Samuel John John > >2 Jacob Jacob Samuel Joseph Samuel Jonathan > >3 Nathaniel Nathaniel Nathaniel Anne Jacob Daniel > >4 Joseph David Joseph Elizabeth Nathaniel Solomon > >5 Enos Anna Jacob Nathaniel Enos Joel > >6 David Martin Solomon Jacob Joseph > >7 Anna Joel Daniel Solomon Samuel > >8 Martin Solomon Jonathan Daniel Nathaniel > >9 Joel Joel Joel Enoch > >10 Solomon Ann John B. > >11 Elizabeth Jonathan > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >A) Per Aaron Behymer diary entry "Our Family Tree", sent by Lori; > >B) Per Aaron Behymer diary entry "Aaron Sargent Behymer" from Lori; > >C) Per Clermont Co. Courier, Feb 1893, sent by Wilfred > >D) Per Rob Dupuy's data file > >E) Per Ralph Behymer in 1980 History of Clermont Co. > >F) Per 1880 History of Clermont Co. by Everts > >====================================================================== > > > >In case the column formatting gets screwed up in your e-mail software, > >here's the same info long-hand: > > > >Column A: Samuel, Jacob, Nathaniel, Joseph, Enos, David, Anna, Martin, > >Joel, Solomon; > > > >Column B: Samuel, Jacob, Nathaniel, David, Anna, Martin, Joel, Solomon; > > > >Column C: John, Samuel, Nathaniel, Joseph, Jacob, Solomon, Daniel, > >Jonathan, Joel, Ann, Elizabeth; > > > >Column D: Samuel, Joseph, Anne, Elizabeth, Nathaniel, Jacob, Solomon, > >Daniel, Joel, John B., Jonathan; > > > >Column E: John, Samuel, Jacob, Nathaniel, Enos; > > > >Column F: John, Jonathan, Daniel, Solomon, Joel, Joseph, Samuel, > >Nathaniel, Enoch. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > I find it interesting that Aaron lists David and Martin among the children, > and no one else does. Note also that Aaron lists no John, Jonathan, or > Daniel... > > The other lists show a Daniel in most cases, but Aaron does not. I wonder > if David and Martin are middle names for Daniel, John, or Jonathan... > [recall that the Dutch/Germans had a habit of using the middle name as the > "call" name of a person, whereas the first name was generally used only for > official purposes.] > > I find it curious, also, that Rob's data matches the 1893 Newspaper > article for every name, but not their order... > > Equally curious, only Rob and the newspaper mention the daughter Elizabeth. > > curioser and curioser... Any comments, thoughts, or God-willing, an > EXPLANATION, will be appreciated. > > Tom > > Tom Robison > Ossian, Indiana > tcrobi@adamswells.com > > Never forget the importance of history. To know nothing of > what happened before you took your place on earth, > is to remain a child forever. [unknown]

Twila wrote: > >Now maybe John T., John Wayne and any other Johns on this list can shed >some light on this problem. It's my nature to make some smart-a** remark here about "too many johns", but I will... errrrgh... grnnnph... resist, just... hrrrrmf... this once. [Those rude sound effects are me, biting my tongue] Tom Tom Robison Ossian, Indiana tcrobi@adamswells.com Never forget the importance of history. To know nothing of what happened before you took your place on earth, is to remain a child forever. [unknown]

Twila was correct a few days back when she said this Behymer e-mail team began two years ago. Looking through my archived e-mail, I find that my first message to her was dated 9/7/96, after I had found her name on the Roots Surname List. She replied two days later, and we were off and running. Great things have happened in two years. How time flies... Tom Tom Robison Ossian, Indiana tcrobi@adamswells.com Never forget the importance of history. To know nothing of what happened before you took your place on earth, is to remain a child forever. [unknown]

Hi, all, I ashamedly admit that I have not yet looked at John Tippet's web page, but judging from the messages to the list of the past few days, I take it there is some consternation as to John/Jonathan Behymer's lineage. Following is a chart I first prepared in April of 1997 when we were hot on the trail of "Jonathan's kids". I publish it here again to illustrate the variety of records that are still out there, and that "official" records can often be contradictory to the point of madness. Comments? Jonathan's children: >====================================================================== > A B C D E F >1 Samuel Samuel John Samuel John John >2 Jacob Jacob Samuel Joseph Samuel Jonathan >3 Nathaniel Nathaniel Nathaniel Anne Jacob Daniel >4 Joseph David Joseph Elizabeth Nathaniel Solomon >5 Enos Anna Jacob Nathaniel Enos Joel >6 David Martin Solomon Jacob Joseph >7 Anna Joel Daniel Solomon Samuel >8 Martin Solomon Jonathan Daniel Nathaniel >9 Joel Joel Joel Enoch >10 Solomon Ann John B. >11 Elizabeth Jonathan >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >A) Per Aaron Behymer diary entry "Our Family Tree", sent by Lori; >B) Per Aaron Behymer diary entry "Aaron Sargent Behymer" from Lori; >C) Per Clermont Co. Courier, Feb 1893, sent by Wilfred >D) Per Rob Dupuy's data file >E) Per Ralph Behymer in 1980 History of Clermont Co. >F) Per 1880 History of Clermont Co. by Everts >====================================================================== > >In case the column formatting gets screwed up in your e-mail software, >here's the same info long-hand: > >Column A: Samuel, Jacob, Nathaniel, Joseph, Enos, David, Anna, Martin, >Joel, Solomon; > >Column B: Samuel, Jacob, Nathaniel, David, Anna, Martin, Joel, Solomon; > >Column C: John, Samuel, Nathaniel, Joseph, Jacob, Solomon, Daniel, >Jonathan, Joel, Ann, Elizabeth; > >Column D: Samuel, Joseph, Anne, Elizabeth, Nathaniel, Jacob, Solomon, >Daniel, Joel, John B., Jonathan; > >Column E: John, Samuel, Jacob, Nathaniel, Enos; > >Column F: John, Jonathan, Daniel, Solomon, Joel, Joseph, Samuel, >Nathaniel, Enoch. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I find it interesting that Aaron lists David and Martin among the children, and no one else does. Note also that Aaron lists no John, Jonathan, or Daniel... The other lists show a Daniel in most cases, but Aaron does not. I wonder if David and Martin are middle names for Daniel, John, or Jonathan... [recall that the Dutch/Germans had a habit of using the middle name as the "call" name of a person, whereas the first name was generally used only for official purposes.] I find it curious, also, that Rob's data matches the 1893 Newspaper article for every name, but not their order... Equally curious, only Rob and the newspaper mention the daughter Elizabeth. curioser and curioser... Any comments, thoughts, or God-willing, an EXPLANATION, will be appreciated. Tom Tom Robison Ossian, Indiana tcrobi@adamswells.com Never forget the importance of history. To know nothing of what happened before you took your place on earth, is to remain a child forever. [unknown]

John T: O.K. There's Johan, his son John (also known as Jonathan) and his grandson John (also known as Joseph). Now this John/Joseph has 9-13 children, including a John Jr., a Joseph, and a Jonathan. What family would do that? Actually John/Joseph was Joseph first, according to Aaron's diary. He later changed his name to John. Why would he change his name to John, if he had a son named John and another one named Jonathan? And why would he name his son John Jr., if his real name was Joseph? Now maybe John T., John Wayne and any other Johns on this list can shed some light on this problem. Until later, Twila P.S. Are there any Josephs out there?

John: That's wonderful news!! Finally someone has found some new information. Congratulations on your find!!! You know we should have pursued that bit of info that said that one of the brothers joined the Mormon church. Of course the LDS church would be the place to go for verification. Twila John Tippet wrote: > About a week ago, I posted the following to the Behymer mailing list: > > I would like to hear some discussion on this list re: the wife of John, Sr > being Elizabeth Rinker. As far as I can tell, the only source for this > surname is from the IGI and it is unverified and propagating like kudzu! I > most confess that I have helped to propagate this "fact" as well. John > Wayne and John Walter Picklesimer make a pretty convincing argument that > the Anne and Elizabeth who show up in various Virginia records as the wife > of John, Sr are, in fact, one and the same person. What does the list say > to this? Shall we toss out Rinker, or can someone "show us the beef"? Are > Anne and Elizabeth the same person, and while I am on this topic, are > Barbara Wettil/Wadle/etc, wife of John, Jr and Sarah one and the same > person? > > I am now in a position to answer the first question I posed regarding > Elizabeth Rinker. I was in our local LDS family history center yesterday, > and I found that Jonathan Beckelshymer is listed as a member of the Mormon > Church very early in its history. I do not have the micro-fiche number > before me at the moment, but can provide it, if anyone on this mailing list > would like to look up this data at their local LDS genealogical library. > This is what I found: > > >From the Nauvoo Temple Endowment Register 1845-46 Early Church File: > > Jonathan Beckelshymer was born 12/31/1787 in Franklin County, VA. His > spouse was Susanna Kinsey. His endowment (likely date of marriage) was at > the Nauvoo Temple, Hancock County, IL on 12/17/1845. He became a high > priest on 10/6/1844 in Nauvoo, Hancock County, IL > > >From the "Early Church File:" > > His parents were John Beckelshymer and Elizabeth Rinker. His baptism was > 3/9/1833. The Officiator when he became high priest was: G. Miller. The > patriarchal blessing took place on 2/28/1838 in Jackson, MO, Officiator: > Isaac Morley. > > This is what was recorded for his wife, Susanna Kinsey: > > >From the Nauvoo Temple Endowment Register 1845-46: > > She was born 6/12/1790 in Franklin County, VA. > > >From all of this, it is clear that the information on Elizabeth Rinker is > verified. It was provided by her husband, Jonathan, and not by a > genealogical researcher many years after the fact. It should also be > possible to get copies of the original (rather than transcribed) records of > the early LDS Church records, which I plan on pursuing. Clearly the > records that show up in the IGI are by someone from the LDS Church (likely > Susan Easton) who transcribed the records from the early church files. > > Since Jonathan is the brother of the other 9 (or so) Behymers who migrated > from VA to OH in the early 1800's (per Aaron Behymer's diary), it is pretty > conclusive that this establishes Elizabeth Rinker and John, Sr as their > parents. > > Lastly, It seems that it may be possible to find Jonathan in either > Jackson, MO or Hancock County, IL in the 1840 census, although census > indices for both states do not show him listed. Jonathan is in Preble > County, OH in 1820 and in Clermont County, OH in 1830. Also, Jonathan is > not shown in the early LDS Church records as a pioneer who traveled with > Brigham Young and the other Mormons to Utah. This is presumably because of > his advanced age. > > I was quite excited by this find! I hope you will be too. > > John Charles Tippet > JohnDoeTippet@csi.com

About a week ago, I posted the following to the Behymer mailing list: I would like to hear some discussion on this list re: the wife of John, Sr being Elizabeth Rinker. As far as I can tell, the only source for this surname is from the IGI and it is unverified and propagating like kudzu! I most confess that I have helped to propagate this "fact" as well. John Wayne and John Walter Picklesimer make a pretty convincing argument that the Anne and Elizabeth who show up in various Virginia records as the wife of John, Sr are, in fact, one and the same person. What does the list say to this? Shall we toss out Rinker, or can someone "show us the beef"? Are Anne and Elizabeth the same person, and while I am on this topic, are Barbara Wettil/Wadle/etc, wife of John, Jr and Sarah one and the same person? I am now in a position to answer the first question I posed regarding Elizabeth Rinker. I was in our local LDS family history center yesterday, and I found that Jonathan Beckelshymer is listed as a member of the Mormon Church very early in its history. I do not have the micro-fiche number before me at the moment, but can provide it, if anyone on this mailing list would like to look up this data at their local LDS genealogical library. This is what I found: >From the Nauvoo Temple Endowment Register 1845-46 Early Church File: Jonathan Beckelshymer was born 12/31/1787 in Franklin County, VA. His spouse was Susanna Kinsey. His endowment (likely date of marriage) was at the Nauvoo Temple, Hancock County, IL on 12/17/1845. He became a high priest on 10/6/1844 in Nauvoo, Hancock County, IL >From the "Early Church File:" His parents were John Beckelshymer and Elizabeth Rinker. His baptism was 3/9/1833. The Officiator when he became high priest was: G. Miller. The patriarchal blessing took place on 2/28/1838 in Jackson, MO, Officiator: Isaac Morley. This is what was recorded for his wife, Susanna Kinsey: >From the Nauvoo Temple Endowment Register 1845-46: She was born 6/12/1790 in Franklin County, VA. >From all of this, it is clear that the information on Elizabeth Rinker is verified. It was provided by her husband, Jonathan, and not by a genealogical researcher many years after the fact. It should also be possible to get copies of the original (rather than transcribed) records of the early LDS Church records, which I plan on pursuing. Clearly the records that show up in the IGI are by someone from the LDS Church (likely Susan Easton) who transcribed the records from the early church files. Since Jonathan is the brother of the other 9 (or so) Behymers who migrated from VA to OH in the early 1800's (per Aaron Behymer's diary), it is pretty conclusive that this establishes Elizabeth Rinker and John, Sr as their parents. Lastly, It seems that it may be possible to find Jonathan in either Jackson, MO or Hancock County, IL in the 1840 census, although census indices for both states do not show him listed. Jonathan is in Preble County, OH in 1820 and in Clermont County, OH in 1830. Also, Jonathan is not shown in the early LDS Church records as a pioneer who traveled with Brigham Young and the other Mormons to Utah. This is presumably because of his advanced age. I was quite excited by this find! I hope you will be too. John Charles Tippet JohnDoeTippet@csi.com

hahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah Twila, That took some thought, I applaud you, you're a poet! Deanna

Twila: Of course, I would like to be included as well. My descendancy is as follows: 1. Johan George Bechtelhymer, The Elder 2. John and Elizabeth (Rinker) Beckelhymer 3. Joseph and Christina (Lazena) Beckelhymer 4. John J and Elizabeth (Beckelhymer) Lower 5. James Henry and Ella Morris (Pittman) Lower Note: #5 are my great grandparents John Charles Tippet Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275 JohnDoeTippet@csi.com ---------- > From: Veysey <veysey@coos.or.us> > To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: New Roster > Date: Thursday, September 24, 1998 11:57 AM > > Hi, folks! > > I am working on a new roster of list members and their descendancy. I > will only include you if you let me know that you want to be on the > list. Then I will send you your entry for approval before I post the > information to the list. I hope to include your name, home state, > direct ancestors and email address. If you have an interesting fact > about one of your Behymer/P'Hymers, I'll include that too. > > Our previous roster helped us all to know each other a little more. So > hope you will want to be included. > > Thanks. > > Twila >

In a message dated 98-09-25 22:06:12 EDT, you write: << I was quite excited by this find! I hope you will be too. >> Yes, it is exciting when you find pieces of the main puzzle, especially with these Beckelhimer's. Deanna

John, I believe that Aaron said that David was in Clermont Co, OH, briefly, then returned to VA. I haven't looked it up, but that was my memory. One of the sisters, stayed in VA.... Sallye

Twila, Yes, please include me in the roster. My Behymer "home" state is Ohio. I now live in Chattanooga, TN. My descendency is (ending with my grandmother, Dorothy Behymer): 1. Elder John 2. John Beckelhymer, Sr. 3. Jacob Beckelhymer and Elizabeth France. 3. Elias Beckelhymer/B'Hymer/Behymer (10/31/1814 to 5/5/1900; dates from family Bible) married on 6/6/1839 to Eve Plackard (May 28, 1818 -- "deduction" from family Bible -- to 8/29/1894). Buried at Mt. Moriah Cemetery. 4. Benjamin T. Behymer (10/11/1851 to 2/11/1924) married on 1/1/1890 to Sarah Catherine Ayer (4/15/1860 - 7/20/1930). Buried at Mt. Moriah Cemetery. 5. Dorothy Evelyn Behymer (12/1/1902 to 9/5/1996) and Nicholas John DeBrunner (8/21 or 22/1902 to 12/13/1971). Buried at Mt. Moriah Cemetery. Thanks, Twila!!!! ---Susan -----Original Message----- From: Veysey <veysey@coos.or.us> To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com <BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, September 25, 1998 3:34 AM Subject: New Roster >Hi, folks! > >I am working on a new roster of list members and their descendancy. I >will only include you if you let me know that you want to be on the >list. Then I will send you your entry for approval before I post the >information to the list. I hope to include your name, home state, >direct ancestors and email address. If you have an interesting fact >about one of your Behymer/P'Hymers, I'll include that too. > >Our previous roster helped us all to know each other a little more. So >hope you will want to be included. > >Thanks. > >Twila >

Found this at the Ancestry DAR site. The part in quotes is directly from the site. "Mrs. Belle Behymer Stephan. DAR ID Number: 98812 Born in Indianapolis, Ind. Wife of David Ephraim Stephan. Descendent of Thomas Manning, as follows: 1. Lewis Behymer (1818-96) m. 1872 Elizabeth Lytle (b. 1842). 2. Nathaniel Behymer (1772-1860) m. 1816 Diadama Manning (1789-1874). 3. Thomas Manning m. 1788 Anna Todd (1763-1853). Thomas Manning (1764-1853) received a pension for service as a private, Connecticut troops, under Captains Hodges and Benton, Colonels Sherman and Butler, 1781-83. He was born in Stafford, Conn; died in Clermont County, Ohio." --Susan

SalGundy@aol.com wrote: Are we getting a copy of the Roster? > > Thanks, Sallye. When I get it all compiled, I will post it to the list. Do you have an interesting bit of trivia about one of your Behymer's that I could include? Twila

HolmHogs@aol.com wrote: > Yes Twila, > I'd like to be included. > Deanna Deanna, Could you provide me with a list of your direct descendants from Jacob, along with their birth and death years? Here's what mine looks like. I went as far as my grandfather. Ancestors: Jacob B'Hymer (b. Abt 1778) and Elizabeth France Direct Descendants: Jacob B'Hymer (abt 1778- )–Solomon Behymer (1819-1917)–Mary Elizabeth Behymer (1854- )–Ida Myrtle Davis (1875-1942)–Howard Earl Manderville(1901-1992) Thanks. Twila

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_906751323_boundary Content-ID: <0_906751323@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Twila, This is very interesting. Think I will check with the library to see if we can find this book. Sallye --part0_906751323_boundary Content-ID: <0_906751323@inet_out.mail.coos.or.us.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: <BEHYMER-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-zc02.mx.aol.com (rly-zc02.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.2]) by air-zc01.mail.aol.com (v50.11) with SMTP; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:38:23 -0400 Received: from fp-1.rootsweb.com (fp-1.rootsweb.com [207.113.233.233]) by rly-zc02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id VAA20129; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:23:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by fp-1.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA02387; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:21:00 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:21:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <360A69F1.8C99BEC2@coos.or.us> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 08:49:05 -0700 From: Veysey <veysey@coos.or.us> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) Old-To: BEHYMER MAILLIST <BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [Fwd: [Fwd: Gorge Bechtell, Mortonhouse 1729]] Old-Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------6EEECE03310FFA6C11E60859" Resent-Message-ID: <"lWlM4.A.Yi.0_uC2"@fp-1.rootsweb.com> To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/869 X-Loop: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: BEHYMER-L-request@rootsweb.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6EEECE03310FFA6C11E60859 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't know how many of you were on the list last May, but in looking at some old emails I came across this correspondence. Could this be our Johan George Beckelhymer? There are some similarities and several differences. Twila --------------6EEECE03310FFA6C11E60859 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <BEHYMER-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from fp-1.rootsweb.com (fp-1.rootsweb.com [207.113.233.233]) by mail.coos.or.us (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05707 for <veysey@mail.coos.or.us>; Sat, 9 May 1998 09:10:15 -0700 Received: (from slist@localhost) by fp-1.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA13361 for veysey@mail.coos.or.us; Sat, 9 May 1998 07:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 07:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <35546E11.8112758F@coos.or.us> Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 07:54:09 -0700 From: Veysey <veysey@coos.or.us> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: BEHYMER MAILLIST <BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [Fwd: Gorge Bechtell, Mortonhouse 1729] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------2D777E3A4A0E5A7D9820CE16" Resent-Message-ID: <"C0qQwC.A.OQD.1qGV1"@fp-1.rootsweb.com> To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/574 X-Loop: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: BEHYMER-L-request@rootsweb.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2D777E3A4A0E5A7D9820CE16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit BillyBob, I am forwarding this to the Behymers. I must have missed a post or two, or else this came from an individual email and not one to the group. Please let us know if these leads lead us to the Behymers/Bechelsheimers/etc. Twila --------------2D777E3A4A0E5A7D9820CE16 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from fp-1.rootsweb.com (fp-1.rootsweb.com [207.113.233.233]) by mail.coos.or.us (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA02974 for <veysey@mail.coos.or.us>; Sat, 9 May 1998 06:51:57 -0700 Received: (from slist@localhost) by fp-1.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA27559; Sat, 9 May 1998 06:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 06:36:18 -0700 (PDT) From: JACKCLOPPE <JACKCLOPPE@aol.com> Message-ID: <6dd56cbd.35545f3a@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 09:50:49 EDT Old-To: BRETHREN@rootsweb.com, jljsr1@juno.com, PADUTCHgenONLY-L@rootsweb.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Gorge Bechtell, Mortonhouse 1729 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 62 Resent-Message-ID: <"ij_uHB.A.NuG.QvFV1"@fp-1.rootsweb.com> To: BRETHREN@rootsweb.com Resent-From: BRETHREN@rootsweb.com Reply-To: BRETHREN@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <BRETHREN@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/4206 X-Loop: BRETHREN@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: BRETHREN-request@rootsweb.com In a message dated 98-05-08 22:42:23 EDT, jljsr1@juno.com writes: << BillyBob My wife, Janet Louise Emerick, has a George Bechtel as her 5th g-grandfather. My information indicates arrival aboard the ship Mortonhouse 1728/1729. His wife was a Maria and he died 19 March 1759 in Hereford, Berks county, PA. He was a farmer and a weaver and my info places him as Minister in the Palatinate, 1727. This information came through a second source but the reference is to page 251, "History of Franconia Mennonites," Wenger, 1937. Would be interested in additional data and the ancestors of this Georg Bechtell (Bechtel, Bechtelsheimers. Have a great day! Lee in AZ. jljsr1@juno.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lee in AZ , I have a family of four siblings that includes a George bca 1708 and my Mennonite Bishop Martin Bechtel, m Elizabeth Richer. Parents Hans Jacob & Elizabeth. Lived near Pottstown, MontgomeryCoPa but was Coventy, Chester. Referenced by R W Davis in Emmigrants, Refugees & Prisoners. What to you want to exchange and how? I'm PC running PAF 3.0, Reunion and FTW/FTM and can send / receive .ged. Give me some idea of how much you have AND HOW MUCH you want. Jack Clopper in Alexandria, VA ==== BRETHREN Mailing List ==== 3 ---------------------------------------------- This is the Brethren Genealogy and History Network we are sponsored by The Fellowship Of Brethren Genealogists You are invited to join the membership of FOBG For further information e-mail McAdams@udayton.edu ------------------------ --------------2D777E3A4A0E5A7D9820CE16-- --------------6EEECE03310FFA6C11E60859-- --part0_906751323_boundary--