If any of you have any items that would be appropriate to scan and upload to the new Behymer web page, let me know. I have bios of Samuel Houstings Behymer, son of Joseph Behymer and Christina Lazena from an IN county history , and some of Nathaniel's descendants from a White County, IL history e.g., that I plan on adding in a future update. John Charles Tippet JohnDoeTippet@csi.com

This was written by a journalist in our local paper. Thought I'd like to share it....... After returning from a week of tent camping in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, we had a fresh view. Upon our return we noticed houses of such size and grandeur as to satisfy the vanity of a French king, all set side by side in former cornfields. Do we really need homes with all this space, all these garages, these exercise rooms, these great rooms, these vaulting foyers? Or these monstrous cars, RV's, vans, SUV's that rumble along our highways? And do we need to eat so much? I see people staggering out of restaurants, overfed and overweight. They have probaly consumed more in a single meal than whole families of disadvantaged people in the poorer parts of the world eat in a day. I don't suggest that we live in tents or cook over wood fires. But isn't there something to be said for the simple life in which we recogniize what is basic and what is important? A week in a tent beneath God's blue sky can tend to throw a rather penetrating light on what is important and what really doesn't matter. What really matters is to be able to breathe, to listen, to smell, to walk, to lice and to LOVE.

Sallye, What book are you looking for on Madison Co., IN? I live in Madison, IN (Jefferson Co.), but our library has quite a few things concerning Indiana. I would be happy to check there and make copies of whatever you need if it's there. Let me know. Linda

Keith: I had a similar problem trying to subscribe to the Brethren mailing list. The way I finally got added to the list was to go to rootsweb.com and navigate through their menu system to the mailing list I was looking for. You might try that approach rather than just sending an E-mail. It worked for me. ---------- > From: Keith Gonzalez <keithgonzo@yahoo.com> > To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Subscribe > Date: Sunday, October 04, 1998 2:19 PM > > Subscribe > > > > On 8/8/98, I sent an e-mail to subscribe, however, as of yet, I > haven't been added to the list. Is there something more I need to do? > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com >

Sallye: Congratulations. You always said you were a stubborn gal! ---------- > From: SalGundy@aol.com > To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: New Behymer Web Page Update > Date: Sunday, October 04, 1998 12:37 PM > > John > This is the day....I got to the webpage....Wow....after hours of plugging, > which acknowledges my determination (stubborness) I finally figured out > how to get there. I am not trying to break my arm, patting myself on the > back! > I think it is done very nicely. I am proud of you. I know how much time > it has taken out of your day, and appreciate your efforts. Thanks again. > > I didn't get to the photoshop yet, but will do so Monday, after my > exercise class. I did get to the library and order some books, but the > one I wanted on Madison IN...I will have to go the L.A. Library. Apparently > it is the first book issued on Madison Co, IN and was too fragil to loan out > to a sub-library. That is a trip I really don't care to make, but am going > first to try somewhere else to obtain the information on Solomon. I just > can't image one of the researchers I worked with back in the 80's sending > me information that wasn't true, so feel it has to be somewhere. (I am > talking about Lucy Behymer Brown being a dau of Solomon). > > I am still tickled pink I finally got to the website. > > Sallye >

BillyBob: 99% of what I have on the early VA Behymers comes from John W and John W Picklesimers' book. Does anyone else on this list have confirming data one way or the other on Daniel's wife? I will change the database once we have a concensus. John Charles Tippet JohnDoeTippet@csi.com P.S. Thanks for the kind words! ---------- > From: William R. Behymer <wbehymer@iglou.com> > To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: I.B.5 Daniel Becklehymer > Date: Sunday, October 04, 1998 9:23 AM > > I was just admiring the web page being put together by John Tippet > (excellent work, John!) and have a question regarding Daniel Becklehymer > (I.B.5), son of Abraham Sr., son of Johan Georg. > > I have noted that John P's book indicates that this Daniel's wife was named > Lucy (although the book includes a question mark behind this statement). > However, the only actual records I've seen giving any indication of the name > of Daniel's wife are tax lists and a deed in Campbell Co, KY in the 1820's > and 1830's, both of which indicate that Daniel's wife's name was Anna. If > someone knows of a source indicating that Daniel's wife's name was Lucy > please let me know. > > Thanks in advance. > > BillyBob > > ====================================================================== > William R. Behymer Internet: wbehymer@iglou.com > West Chester, OH Compuserve: wbehymer > > BillyBob's Genealogy Homepage: http://members.iglou.com/wbehymer/ > >

John I too found Anna to be wife of Daniel Behymer (BillyBob's family) in Campbell Co, KY. In the early tax records of Campbell Co, KY, you will also find her name (after Daniel died) on property list (Banklick River). In the Campbell Co, KY deeds between Daniel Bhimer-heirs and Abraham Bhimer, Bk N pg 85 and BookO,pg 149. She was shown on the Tax Records for years 1826, 1827, 1828, 1829 and 1830 for 50A of land. Never did determine Anna's maiden name tho. I would say they were at least married before 1791. They were in Madison Co, KY by 1810, so were probably married in VA. I found a Daniel in Franklin, VA in 1810 also, but am quite sure it is not the same Daniel. There was a David Beckleheimer in 1810 Campbell Co also. Check my previous email with tax records. Hope this helps. (and yes, I am stubborn) Sallye

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I was just admiring the web page being put together by John Tippet (excellent work, John!) and have a question regarding Daniel Becklehymer (I.B.5), son of Abraham Sr., son of Johan Georg. I have noted that John P's book indicates that this Daniel's wife was named Lucy (although the book includes a question mark behind this statement). However, the only actual records I've seen giving any indication of the name of Daniel's wife are tax lists and a deed in Campbell Co, KY in the 1820's and 1830's, both of which indicate that Daniel's wife's name was Anna. If someone knows of a source indicating that Daniel's wife's name was Lucy please let me know. Thanks in advance. BillyBob ====================================================================== William R. Behymer Internet: wbehymer@iglou.com West Chester, OH Compuserve: wbehymer BillyBob's Genealogy Homepage: http://members.iglou.com/wbehymer/

John This is the day....I got to the webpage....Wow....after hours of plugging, which acknowledges my determination (stubborness) I finally figured out how to get there. I am not trying to break my arm, patting myself on the back! I think it is done very nicely. I am proud of you. I know how much time it has taken out of your day, and appreciate your efforts. Thanks again. I didn't get to the photoshop yet, but will do so Monday, after my exercise class. I did get to the library and order some books, but the one I wanted on Madison IN...I will have to go the L.A. Library. Apparently it is the first book issued on Madison Co, IN and was too fragil to loan out to a sub-library. That is a trip I really don't care to make, but am going first to try somewhere else to obtain the information on Solomon. I just can't image one of the researchers I worked with back in the 80's sending me information that wasn't true, so feel it has to be somewhere. (I am talking about Lucy Behymer Brown being a dau of Solomon). I am still tickled pink I finally got to the website. Sallye

Susan: Even without considering the question of who are the children of John, Sr and John, Jr, there are still a lot of holes to fill, e.g., I am missing some of the the census data, especially for the later generations, so there are several ways for anyone who is interested to contribute to this effort. Just reading what I have posted on the web and letting me know if something is wrong, or needs a disclaimer, clarification, etc. would be a great help. BTW: My local library called to say that the films that I had ordered on the newspapers are finally on their way. There was some confusion over the process - the Ohio Historical Society needed a pre-payment check for the total amount from my local library and they weren't aware of that fact. Apparently they got that sorted out, so they should be arriving soon. I will then inform everyone on this list which films I will be reading. Thanks for your interest! John Charles Tippet JohnDoeTippet@csi.com ---------- > From: SUSAN L DEBRUNNER <S_DEBRUNNER@prodigy.net> > To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: New Behymer Web Page Update > Date: Saturday, October 03, 1998 5:26 PM > > John, > > Your page looks wonderful! Alas, alack, I am so new at this > Behymer/Beckelhymer stuff, I am way behind the rest of ya'll in terms of > knowing what's going on to participate in a meaningful manner in the > discussions of who belongs to which parent. > > Thanks for the updated info on the link. I'll update my page to reflect the > change in your page name. > > Please let me know when your microfilm arrives and what you ordered. I am > planning to help out with the microfilmed newspapers as soon as you let me > know what you've ordered so I don't duplicate your efforts. > > Again, the page looks wonderful! > > ---Susan > -----Original Message----- > From: John Tippet <johndoetippet@csi.com> > To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com <BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Saturday, October 03, 1998 7:47 PM > Subject: New Behymer Web Page Update > > > >I have updated the new Behymer web page. You must go to my home page > >first, as I have modified the name of the Behymer page (I promise I won't > >keep changing the name), but I did it for a good reason. I prefer that you > >start there, anyway, as it contains a counter so I can get some idea of how > >much interest there is in all this. My home page is: > >http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JohnDoeTippet/. At the risk of > >creating some controversy, I have made the following changes: > > > >(1) I added a generation - the descendancy narrative now includes 4 > >generations from the progenitor, Johan George Beckelhymer, the Elder. The > >index of sources is only a partial one, as I am still in the process of > >documenting all the sources. I decided to do this because there is some > >discussion/controversy currently ongoing regarding which of the > >Beckelhymers are children of John, Jr and which are children of John, Sr. > >I don't claim to have the definitive answer. I am only publishing what I > >currently have in my database. I encourage comments, corrections, > >additions, etc. Let's keep the dialogue going! > > > >(2) I added Twila's roster (the one without the personal information). > > > >(3) I added genealogies of several other families that I am also working > >on. > > > >(4) I added one more Behymer scanned image - a bio of my gg grandparents, > >John J Lower and Elizabeth Beckelhymer. > > > >(5) I linked Abraham Adam and David Picklesimer to Jacob, Sr so that there > >is some indication of where they might fit in. I hope the disclaimer that > >I included regarding their parentage is sufficiently clear so that John > >Walter and John Wayne Picklesimer won't be too annoyed. > > > >(6) I also added the two other David Beckelhymers, also with appropriate > >disclaimers, as their parentage is basically speculation on my part. > > > >Looking for feedback... > > > >John Charles Tippet > >JohnDoeTippet@csi.com > > > > >

I don't know if this will help or not but in looking for Elizabeth Pickle who married Peter Pauff/Poff I found the following in Chalkley's Book. These are notes I made for myself. I hope they make sense to you. Notes on Henry Pickle, Sr. May 18, 1762 - Received certificate for naturalization in Augusta County, Virginia. [Chalkley Vol. 1, page 97] May 24, 1763 - Henry Pickle mentioned. [Chalkley Vol. 3, page 405] May 25, 1763 - To Henry Pickle 190 acres on South Fork of Potomac near head. [Chalkley Vol. 3, page 405] March 22, 1764 - Michael Rhine's vendue recorded. To Henry Pickle. [Chalkley Vol. 3, page 83] Aug. 1764 - Henry Pickle to send four children to school. [Chalkley Vol. 1, page 449] 1767-1768 - Mentions, "by Henry Pickle Sr. and for Henry Pickle [processioned?]" [Chalkley Vol. 2, page 456] June 20, 1769 - Vice Road Overseer. [Chalkley Vol. 1, page 156] Sept. 14, 1772 - Swatley's estate appraised by [etc.] Mentions Henry Pickle's bond. [Chalkley Vol. 3, page 128] Nov. 1773 - Mathews vs Henry Pickle, debt. Writ June 15, 1773. Gone to Carolina. [Chalkley Vol. 1, page 369] May 21, 1774 - No inhabitants.?? [Chalkley Vol. 1, page 181] Jan. 1783 - Henry Pickle to Casper Eager. [Chalkley Vol. 3, page 540] 1796 - Henry Pickle and sons Martin and Tobias vs. Martin Stealey. Bill filed in Wythe. [Chalkley Vol. 2, page 62] I have more notes I got from Wythe Co. but will have to look them up if you are interested. Barb S. At 09:07 PM 10/3/98 -0400, you wrote: >I have been trying to find for three years, almost one year on the list and >I thought I might have found Catherine Pickle as Abrahams un-named Daughter >borned 1801/1804 until a couple days ago. I had heard that the Gearharts >[Catherine married Joseph Gearheart] who I am also searching for was in >Wythe Co Va. Sure enough I found Katharina Gearheart [Joseph Sister] >baptisum with parents.BUT I also found borned 22-9-1802 Amos Pickle >c.14-11-1802 parents Tobias & Judith, borned 8-9-1804 Anna Catharina Pickle >c. 24-3-1805 Parents Henry & Ester, IS THIS MY CATHERINE PICKLE. borned >27-9-1809 Tobias Pickle Parents John & wife Sponser Tobias Pickle, borned >18-11-1821 Maria Magtalina c.14-4-1822 Parents Solomon & Maria. The >following is attendance record at The Lord's Supper at Kiberling Church >25-8-1793 John Pickle, Henry Pickle, Ester Pickle, Katherine Pickle. The >Lord's Supper 19-11-1797 Young Persons ......ich Pickle, Tobias Pickle, >Ester Pickle Old Persons Ester Pickle. Does anyone have an idea who this >family is and do you know who Anna Catharina married.. Thanks. >>> >> >

I have been trying to find for three years, almost one year on the list and I thought I might have found Catherine Pickle as Abrahams un-named Daughter borned 1801/1804 until a couple days ago. I had heard that the Gearharts [Catherine married Joseph Gearheart] who I am also searching for was in Wythe Co Va. Sure enough I found Katharina Gearheart [Joseph Sister] baptisum with parents.BUT I also found borned 22-9-1802 Amos Pickle c.14-11-1802 parents Tobias & Judith, borned 8-9-1804 Anna Catharina Pickle c. 24-3-1805 Parents Henry & Ester, IS THIS MY CATHERINE PICKLE. borned 27-9-1809 Tobias Pickle Parents John & wife Sponser Tobias Pickle, borned 18-11-1821 Maria Magtalina c.14-4-1822 Parents Solomon & Maria. The following is attendance record at The Lord's Supper at Kiberling Church 25-8-1793 John Pickle, Henry Pickle, Ester Pickle, Katherine Pickle. The Lord's Supper 19-11-1797 Young Persons ......ich Pickle, Tobias Pickle, Ester Pickle Old Persons Ester Pickle. Does anyone have an idea who this family is and do you know who Anna Catharina married.. Thanks. >> >

Rick: Levi and John are mentioned in the estate of Enoch. They received some of Enoch's possesions in the dispursement of his estate. Your E-mail has given me pause for thought. Your are right that p 442 of Everts seems to indicate that Joel was the son of John, Jr, not John, Sr. I think we will have to get more inputs from the list (and probably more data) to figure this out. John Charles Tippet JohnDoeTippet@csi.com ---------- > From: Rick Phillips <Edwin-P@worldnet.att.net> > To: JohnDoeTippet@csi.com > Subject: Sons of John > Date: Sunday, September 27, 1998 11:09 PM > > John - > > Thanks for your response to my posting about the sons of John Sr. > I want to clear up some things that I wrote. The reference to the > Clermont Co. History that mentions Joel as son of John [Jr.] is the > biography of Michael Behymer on pg. 442. It states that Michael was a > grandson of John Behymer, "one of the earliest pioneers, having located > before the year 1800 in the county, then part of Hamilton". > > While Solomon is listed as a brother to Jonathan, Jacob, and Daniel on > pg 431, he is mentioned in "Clermont County, Ohio 1980 : a collection of > genealogical and historical writings", pub. 1984 as a son of John [Jr.], > grandson of Jonathan. > > While I do find some errors in Aaron's Diary, I have been leaning > towards believing his statement that Martin, Joel and Solomon were > brothers. They are mentioned in a way that implies that they were > treated separately from the other members of the family. Aaron mentions > Samuel, Nathaniel and Jacob as brothers several times, and when listing > the siblings :Samuel, Jacob, Nathaniel, Joseph, Enos, David and Anna, he > doesn't refer to Martin, Joel and Solomon. Solomon would have been known > to him reasonably well, and it is odd that he separated them out in this > way. [you're probably thinking : Why didn't he mention Jonathan and > Daniel? - good question re: Daniel, although I suspect he didn't hear > much about Jonathan]. > > Ralph Behymer had these three sons as children of John Jr. > > The Courier article also states that the family came in 1818, this is > significant error, giving us no source that can survive much scrutiny. > Alas, we must apparently each try to make our best guesses. > > As I review your reply, I see that I wrote about Samuel's being > mentioned in a land transaction [ in Frederick CO. MD in 1773 as the son > of John and "Anne" - not Elizabeth] Sorry about that. There is > speculation that Eliz. and Anne are the same person, but I should have > written in Anne, as it is possible that the John and Anne of MD are not > the same John and Eliz. of VA. > > In terms of Enoch/Enos I have always considered them as one person - > probably out of simplicity because there are too many others to account > for already! > > As for Charity Harger, that is the name I have seen in Wingfield's Works > :Franklin Co. VA Marriage bonds. She was dtr. of John and mar. John > Peckelsimer Jr. on Sept 7, 1803. The LDS Ancestral File lists her as > Charity Ann Harger/Hunter. They are both buried in Fulton Co. > > > I have a question for you. Who was mentioned in Enoch's estate that > suggests that he might be a son of John Jr.? > > Thanks for you time, > > Rick

Clifford: There is speculation/confusion over whether the John Beckelhymer, Jr who married Charity Harger in Franklin County, VA circa Sep 7, 1803 was the son of the John Beckelhymer who married Barbara Weddle and who died in Clermont County, OH in 1812 or whether the John Beckleshymer, with wife Anna, who lived in Fulton County, IL was the son of John and Barbara. I have even heard speculation that Charity and Anna were one and the same person, i.e., Charity Anna Harger. Have you found any courthouse records in PA for the marriage of John and Anna Henry? Also, where did the info about the old bible come from? Is it still in existence? Was the LDS group sheet you mentioned, one of the ones the LDS Church used to keep years ago in those big black binders (I haven't seen any entry in the ancestry files)? The John who was the son of John and Barbara was known to have served in the War of 1812 in Captain Haines mounted volunteers and his widow is supposed to have applied for a pension, receiving bounty land in return for her husband's service. I plan on trying to find these records at the National Archives when next I am in Washington, DC (where my mother-in-law lives) Regarding your Charles Behymer, I just ordered some microfilms from the LDS Church that contain the chancery court records for Fulton County, IL. One interesting item I found was the following: Charles, Diantha, Hezekiah, Charlotte and Lewis are listed as children and heirs of Charles Behymer, late of IN deceased and still residing there in the settlement of the estate of John Behymer circa 1850. I have received a large number of family group sheets on the John Behymer who settled in Fulton County, IL and his descendants from Sallye Gundy who has done an extraordinary amount of research on the Behymers over the years. She and I are both quite active on the Behymer mailing list. You should re-subscribe to the list as there is quite often some interesting data that comes across. With her permission, I could forward some of these to you, if you provide me your address. You should also check out the new Behymer web page that I created (I just posted an update today). Point your browser to http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JohnDoeTippet/ I am hoping that this can be used as the single repository of the generally-accepted version of the Behymer genealogy. Of course, for this to happen, I need a lot of inputs/comments from the members of the mailing list. Comments? John Charles Tippet JohnDoeTippet@csi.com ---------- > From: Clifford C. Trimble <cct71@nconnect.net> > To: johndoetippet@csi.com > Cc: saundman@essex1.com > Subject: Beckelshymer Surname Research: > Date: Friday, October 02, 1998 12:24 PM > > John & Merle: I wanted to answer both your last E-Mails so I figured it > best to send you both the same info and see how it goes with what you > have. > John Beckelshymer, B-11 Mar 1780, D-9 Apr 1847: > According to a Family Group Record I have from LDS, John married > Anna Henry on 12 Aug 1806 in Philadelphia. She was born either in > Wales Or England according to an old family bible. B-8 Oct 1785, > D-16 May 1852. This also per LDS. > Merle, you reference to John marrying a Charity Ann Harger on 7 Sep 1803 > in Franklin County, Virginia. B-8 Oct 1783, D-16May 1862. This > you had gotten from another Beckelshymer researcher. > With the references we also have from LDS and John & myself, I feel the > only way that could have happend would have been for John to go to Vir., > marry Charity in 1803 and after divorce go to Philadelphia and marry > Anna Henry in 1806. Will try to run down some applicable documents to > get that straightened out. > Merle: I will do some checking on whom you had listed as possible > parents of John. > John: With reference to the section of your E-Mail listed marriages > not accounted for etc., I submit the following > Charles R. (Behymer) Beckelshymer married Rachel Lavina Holmes on > 16 Feb 1860 in Ipava, Fulton, Ill. His oldest son was my direct > descendent. Willard. > Diantha Beckelshymer married Ezekial Clark on 19 Dec 1849. She was > Charles's sister. Andrew Beckelshymer was their father. > Hezekiah Beckelshymer served with Charles in the 103rd Illinois > Infantry and died of wounds at a Marietta, Georgia Hospital on > 23 Aug 1864. > Nothing on the others you had listed. I have many updates on the > info you sent me and am also working with a descendent of another > of John's sons, Alexander. > All I have as far as John & Anna and their birth places is what I > have here plus the record from LDS. Will close this for now and > get this off to you both. I was plugged into the Behymer Group > but I got a ton of E-Mail but none I could tie in so I went off it > for the time being. Would get back into it, if I could get some > info to use. Both of you take it easy and I will do the same. > Cliff Trimble cct71@nconnect.net

John, Your page looks wonderful! Alas, alack, I am so new at this Behymer/Beckelhymer stuff, I am way behind the rest of ya'll in terms of knowing what's going on to participate in a meaningful manner in the discussions of who belongs to which parent. Thanks for the updated info on the link. I'll update my page to reflect the change in your page name. Please let me know when your microfilm arrives and what you ordered. I am planning to help out with the microfilmed newspapers as soon as you let me know what you've ordered so I don't duplicate your efforts. Again, the page looks wonderful! ---Susan -----Original Message----- From: John Tippet <johndoetippet@csi.com> To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com <BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, October 03, 1998 7:47 PM Subject: New Behymer Web Page Update >I have updated the new Behymer web page. You must go to my home page >first, as I have modified the name of the Behymer page (I promise I won't >keep changing the name), but I did it for a good reason. I prefer that you >start there, anyway, as it contains a counter so I can get some idea of how >much interest there is in all this. My home page is: >http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JohnDoeTippet/. At the risk of >creating some controversy, I have made the following changes: > >(1) I added a generation - the descendancy narrative now includes 4 >generations from the progenitor, Johan George Beckelhymer, the Elder. The >index of sources is only a partial one, as I am still in the process of >documenting all the sources. I decided to do this because there is some >discussion/controversy currently ongoing regarding which of the >Beckelhymers are children of John, Jr and which are children of John, Sr. >I don't claim to have the definitive answer. I am only publishing what I >currently have in my database. I encourage comments, corrections, >additions, etc. Let's keep the dialogue going! > >(2) I added Twila's roster (the one without the personal information). > >(3) I added genealogies of several other families that I am also working >on. > >(4) I added one more Behymer scanned image - a bio of my gg grandparents, >John J Lower and Elizabeth Beckelhymer. > >(5) I linked Abraham Adam and David Picklesimer to Jacob, Sr so that there >is some indication of where they might fit in. I hope the disclaimer that >I included regarding their parentage is sufficiently clear so that John >Walter and John Wayne Picklesimer won't be too annoyed. > >(6) I also added the two other David Beckelhymers, also with appropriate >disclaimers, as their parentage is basically speculation on my part. > >Looking for feedback... > >John Charles Tippet >JohnDoeTippet@csi.com > >

I have updated the new Behymer web page. You must go to my home page first, as I have modified the name of the Behymer page (I promise I won't keep changing the name), but I did it for a good reason. I prefer that you start there, anyway, as it contains a counter so I can get some idea of how much interest there is in all this. My home page is: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JohnDoeTippet/. At the risk of creating some controversy, I have made the following changes: (1) I added a generation - the descendancy narrative now includes 4 generations from the progenitor, Johan George Beckelhymer, the Elder. The index of sources is only a partial one, as I am still in the process of documenting all the sources. I decided to do this because there is some discussion/controversy currently ongoing regarding which of the Beckelhymers are children of John, Jr and which are children of John, Sr. I don't claim to have the definitive answer. I am only publishing what I currently have in my database. I encourage comments, corrections, additions, etc. Let's keep the dialogue going! (2) I added Twila's roster (the one without the personal information). (3) I added genealogies of several other families that I am also working on. (4) I added one more Behymer scanned image - a bio of my gg grandparents, John J Lower and Elizabeth Beckelhymer. (5) I linked Abraham Adam and David Picklesimer to Jacob, Sr so that there is some indication of where they might fit in. I hope the disclaimer that I included regarding their parentage is sufficiently clear so that John Walter and John Wayne Picklesimer won't be too annoyed. (6) I also added the two other David Beckelhymers, also with appropriate disclaimers, as their parentage is basically speculation on my part. Looking for feedback... John Charles Tippet JohnDoeTippet@csi.com

John, The website looks wonderful and I like the spelling of the name. Deanna

Hello! I am VERY new to this list, allow me to introduce myself and ask one question, please? (Then I will take to the corner chair, watch and learn) I wonder if anyone can confirm or deny that the surname BEEMER could be in any way related to BEHYMER? I have 7 nephews, with more than a dozen heirs to our WALTER and BEEMER lineage. I am just beginning research on BEEMER, and wondering if I should begin with this list. I am starting with nothing more than their maternal grandfather's name: MAX BEEMER, b. about 1900, Beemerville, IL (near Hinckley); and d. late 1950s, Kane County, IL. That's about all that anyone knows so far. <sigh> Hoping and thanking you for your help. Carol robinson@empirenet.com WEBSITE: http://members.tripod.com/~walter42 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::