Sally, I am missing some of what you describe below: Maude, dau of John and Catherine M. Beckelhymer. I don't seem to have this daughter? Is this Catherine, Catherine Redpath? I appreciate your assistance in figuring these out. Rob SalGundy@aol.com wrote: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > --part0_916970346_boundary > Content-ID: <0_916970346@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> > Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Kay, > You got the FRS on Jesse & Rebecca Beckelhymer? I believe I sent > it over the net. Rebecca was a dau of John and Anna of Fulton Co, IL > and supposedly Jesse was son of John and Charity Beckelhymer, but > I have no information to substantiat that statement. Matter of fact > I really haven't been able to find John and Charity in any census, nor > do I know where he went after 1820 or 1830 from Clermont Co, OH. > Let me know what else you want. I thought you had some of Jesse > and Rebecca's descendants as you said (I think) that you got most > of your material from Frank Gordon Stevens? I did get material from a > Maurice E. Martin, 2616 J street, Lincoln, NE 68510--grandson of Maurice who > married a Maude M. Wilson, dau of John and Catherine M. Beckelhymer. > > Let me know what you wanted and will be glad to send it to you. You > never did tell me who you were descended from. > > Sallye > > --part0_916970346_boundary > Content-ID: <0_916970346@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> > Content-type: message/rfc822 > Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > Content-disposition: inline > > From: KAYJACKSON@aol.com > Return-path: <KAYJACKSON@aol.com> > To: SalGundy@aol.com > Subject: BECKELHYMERS > Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 07:49:55 EST > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > > Sallye, > > Did you forget to send me the information on the Beckelhymers? I would really > like all the information that you could send me. Thank You. Kay > > --part0_916970346_boundary-- > > ==== BEHYMER Mailing List ==== > What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other > name would smell as sweet--Shakespeare > Bevelheimer, Picklesimer, Beehimer, Beckelshymer, P'Hymer, . . . . . .

Twila, I would appreciate a copy of this information. Thank you for your patience and kindness. Rob Veysey wrote: > > If you are interested in Deb's info on Benjamin Becklhymer of Fountain, > IN, please indicate. Rootsweb will not allow her to send attachments to > the list. So she will have to email separately to interested > individuals. > > Please send it to me, Deb. Thanks. > > Twila > Listowner > > ==== BEHYMER Mailing List ==== > What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other > name would smell as sweet--Shakespeare > B'Hymer, Beevelhamaer, Bevelheimer, Bechtelsheimer, Bechtelheimer

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_916970346_boundary Content-ID: <0_916970346@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Kay, You got the FRS on Jesse & Rebecca Beckelhymer? I believe I sent it over the net. Rebecca was a dau of John and Anna of Fulton Co, IL and supposedly Jesse was son of John and Charity Beckelhymer, but I have no information to substantiat that statement. Matter of fact I really haven't been able to find John and Charity in any census, nor do I know where he went after 1820 or 1830 from Clermont Co, OH. Let me know what else you want. I thought you had some of Jesse and Rebecca's descendants as you said (I think) that you got most of your material from Frank Gordon Stevens? I did get material from a Maurice E. Martin, 2616 J street, Lincoln, NE 68510--grandson of Maurice who married a Maude M. Wilson, dau of John and Catherine M. Beckelhymer. Let me know what you wanted and will be glad to send it to you. You never did tell me who you were descended from. Sallye --part0_916970346_boundary Content-ID: <0_916970346@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: KAYJACKSON@aol.com Return-path: <KAYJACKSON@aol.com> To: SalGundy@aol.com Subject: BECKELHYMERS Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 07:49:55 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sallye, Did you forget to send me the information on the Beckelhymers? I would really like all the information that you could send me. Thank You. Kay --part0_916970346_boundary--

John I will help you on cost of some of the land transactions. I am going to photocopy the VA deeds that I have and mail to you. I am still looking for my Clermont, OH and my Campbell Co, KY. I was busy today, but meant to get up to LaCrescenta and order the Rardin deeds from Campbell, cause I know I didn't have those. The Reardin/Rardins' in Fountain Co, IN I believe are part of the Campbell Rardin group....maybe. Sallye

Deb, Yes, thank you, I got the document, and it was just the settlement papers. I see John T wanted a copy. Do you want me to photocopy what you sent, and send to him. Or maybe I could forward your mail to him. Let me know. Again thanks. Sallye

If you are interested in Deb's info on Benjamin Becklhymer of Fountain, IN, please indicate. Rootsweb will not allow her to send attachments to the list. So she will have to email separately to interested individuals. Please send it to me, Deb. Thanks. Twila Listowner

Deb: I would like a copy. Also, would you mind if I added it to my web page along with the other wills I have transcribed? John Charles Tippet JohnDoeTippet@csi.com ---------- > From: Dave & Deb Park <davepark@ptd.net> > To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Benjamin Beckelhymer/Fountain Co, IN/ 1845 > Date: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 8:40 AM > > I have now finished transcribing the will of Benjamin Beckelhymer, born > circa 1790-1800, VA, died 1844, Fountain Co, IN. > > Benjamin was married to 1) Jane Ferguson (Oct 17 1819, Clermont Co, OH) > 2) Eunice Fitzpatrick (Sept 13, 1824, Clermont Co, OH) > > He migrated to Fountain County, Indiana, circa 1824 , with Isaac, Thomas, & > James Ferguson. > > The transcribed materials also contain property inventory, bill of sale, > etc; lists Isaac, Zecheriah, James Ferguson, and also mentions the widow as > remarrying, her name listed as Eunice Hendren, which was mentioned in some > recent email postings. > > I just realized that you can't sent attachments thru rootsweb so if you want > a copy, drop me a line and I will sent it to you individually. > > Thanks. Benjamin> Levi> Isaiah> Joseph Russell> my mom, then me! > > (My aunts, uncles, & cousins in Indiana still own and farm the land that > Benjamin got with his land warrant. :) ) > > Deb > > > > > ==== BEHYMER Mailing List ==== > What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other > name would smell as sweet--Shakespeare > B'Hymer, Beevelhamaer, Bevelheimer, Bechtelsheimer, Bechtelheimer >

I have now finished transcribing the will of Benjamin Beckelhymer, born circa 1790-1800, VA, died 1844, Fountain Co, IN. Benjamin was married to 1) Jane Ferguson (Oct 17 1819, Clermont Co, OH) 2) Eunice Fitzpatrick (Sept 13, 1824, Clermont Co, OH) He migrated to Fountain County, Indiana, circa 1824 , with Isaac, Thomas, & James Ferguson. The transcribed materials also contain property inventory, bill of sale, etc; lists Isaac, Zecheriah, James Ferguson, and also mentions the widow as remarrying, her name listed as Eunice Hendren, which was mentioned in some recent email postings. I just realized that you can't sent attachments thru rootsweb so if you want a copy, drop me a line and I will sent it to you individually. Thanks. Benjamin> Levi> Isaiah> Joseph Russell> my mom, then me! (My aunts, uncles, & cousins in Indiana still own and farm the land that Benjamin got with his land warrant. :) ) Deb

Sallye: I agree that we need to track down Lewis Huff/Hough via census and/or land transactions. If I had a few more volunteers to contribute $ to my project, I could order the microfilms and check this out. John Charles Tippet JohnDoeTippet@csi.com ---------- > From: SalGundy@aol.com > To: johndoetippet@csi.com > Cc: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: PEGGY B'HYMER AND LEWIS HUFF > Date: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 12:23 PM > > John, > It has taken me a long time to look at some of the material > that was coming so fast before the end of last year. > > I think you were right, that Peggy might be the one that was > a neice of Jonathon. > > I went back to the LAND TRANSACTIONS of Clermont Co, OH > and I find that SAMUEL sold/gave/whatever to a LEWIS HUFF in 1823. > (C2-27/71). We sure want to check this out, it might indicate Samuel > (which was probably the Samuel b. 1763) had a daughter named Peggy. > In fact, this possible could be the Catherine (Margaret) or vica versa, who > Aaron said left young and knew nothing about her. I had guessed she > was born about 1802 ...which would certainly work with this marriage > also. > Maybe we should do a 1830 census on Lewis Huff? See if we can > follow him? Maybe 1840-50-60 too. They might not have lived in > Clermont too long. > My Nelson in Campbell Co, KY had married a Huff - original spelling > would have been Hough, which i have never found in PA. > Give me your thoughts on this? > > Sallye

Francis: I couldn't have said it better. Deeds are sometimes better (or at least as good as) wills. So far I have pledges and contributions with which to order 4 to 6 of the microfilms only at this point. If there are others willing to contribute, please let me know. John Charles Tippet JohnDoeTippet@csi.com ---------- > From: Francis Knight <frank.knight@worldnet.att.net> > To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Behymer Deeds > Date: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 7:27 AM > > Twila, > Some of my greatest finds have been in deeds! When there is no probate > and land must be divided among the living heirs, it will tell you all > you ever wanted to know. Also, many times daughters married "next door" > so knowing the owners surrounding your ancestors property is very > useful. Not a dumb question, but all serious researchers in my opinion > should search deeds. It is a neglected resourse. > Nancy Weaver Knight > > Veysey wrote: > > > > John Tippet: > > > > I really appreciate all you have done--your website and all your > > continued > > research. I guess I am reluctant to participate in your deed project, > > because > > I don't really understand anything about deeds. What exactly can you > > learn > > from them? In my simple mind I can imagine learning that old Jacob > > purchased > > property at x Township, Sec. x, etc. So what? How does this help me > > learn > > more about him? Is there really valuable information on these deeds? > > We > > already know that these family members lived in Clermont Co.. Since I > > may > > never get to Ohio, it really doesn't matter to me where this property is > > > > located. > > > > I hope you don't think I am being cynical. I'm just expressing my > > ignorance. > > Perhaps other list members are as much in the dark on this topic as I > > am. > > Maybe if we poor souls were enlightened, we'd be more supportive. > > > > You really are doing a wonderful job! Thanks. > > > > Twila > > > > ==== BEHYMER Mailing List ==== > > What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other > > name would smell as sweet--Shakespeare > > Philhimer, Picklesimore, Pickilsimer, Pickleshymer, Packlesimer > > > ==== BEHYMER Mailing List ==== > What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other > name would smell as sweet--Shakespeare > Behymer, Beckelhymer, Bechtelheimer, BHymer, Bechelheimer, . . . . . . >

Twila, Some of my greatest finds have been in deeds! When there is no probate and land must be divided among the living heirs, it will tell you all you ever wanted to know. Also, many times daughters married "next door" so knowing the owners surrounding your ancestors property is very useful. Not a dumb question, but all serious researchers in my opinion should search deeds. It is a neglected resourse. Nancy Weaver Knight Veysey wrote: > > John Tippet: > > I really appreciate all you have done--your website and all your > continued > research. I guess I am reluctant to participate in your deed project, > because > I don't really understand anything about deeds. What exactly can you > learn > from them? In my simple mind I can imagine learning that old Jacob > purchased > property at x Township, Sec. x, etc. So what? How does this help me > learn > more about him? Is there really valuable information on these deeds? > We > already know that these family members lived in Clermont Co.. Since I > may > never get to Ohio, it really doesn't matter to me where this property is > > located. > > I hope you don't think I am being cynical. I'm just expressing my > ignorance. > Perhaps other list members are as much in the dark on this topic as I > am. > Maybe if we poor souls were enlightened, we'd be more supportive. > > You really are doing a wonderful job! Thanks. > > Twila > > ==== BEHYMER Mailing List ==== > What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other > name would smell as sweet--Shakespeare > Philhimer, Picklesimore, Pickilsimer, Pickleshymer, Packlesimer

John, It has taken me a long time to look at some of the material that was coming so fast before the end of last year. I think you were right, that Peggy might be the one that was a neice of Jonathon. I went back to the LAND TRANSACTIONS of Clermont Co, OH and I find that SAMUEL sold/gave/whatever to a LEWIS HUFF in 1823. (C2-27/71). We sure want to check this out, it might indicate Samuel (which was probably the Samuel b. 1763) had a daughter named Peggy. In fact, this possible could be the Catherine (Margaret) or vica versa, who Aaron said left young and knew nothing about her. I had guessed she was born about 1802 ...which would certainly work with this marriage also. Maybe we should do a 1830 census on Lewis Huff? See if we can follow him? Maybe 1840-50-60 too. They might not have lived in Clermont too long. My Nelson in Campbell Co, KY had married a Huff - original spelling would have been Hough, which i have never found in PA. Give me your thoughts on this? Sallye

John Tippet: I really appreciate all you have done--your website and all your continued research. I guess I am reluctant to participate in your deed project, because I don't really understand anything about deeds. What exactly can you learn from them? In my simple mind I can imagine learning that old Jacob purchased property at x Township, Sec. x, etc. So what? How does this help me learn more about him? Is there really valuable information on these deeds? We already know that these family members lived in Clermont Co.. Since I may never get to Ohio, it really doesn't matter to me where this property is located. I hope you don't think I am being cynical. I'm just expressing my ignorance. Perhaps other list members are as much in the dark on this topic as I am. Maybe if we poor souls were enlightened, we'd be more supportive. You really are doing a wonderful job! Thanks. Twila

John: Yes, I downloaded and made a copy of the land patent; figured I might as well, if it would work. There is a form you can copy and send off for a certified fopy , but I think this gives you all the pertinent info. I already had a copy of the actual certificate, but with the flowery writing and all, the computer printout is easier to read.....! Deb

Deb: I also found: Alexander, Benjamin, Henry, Isaiah and Thomas Beckelshymer in Fulton County, IL in 1848 Joseph Beckelhymer and Samuel Bechtlesheimer in Henry County, IN in 1837 and 1829, respectively John Beckelhymer in Clay County, IN in 1839 Anndrew and John Beckelshymer in Lawrence County, IN from 1831 to 1838 (9 patents) Charles Beckelshymer in MO in 1903. Did you download the tiff files and print them out? John Charles Tippet JohnDoeTippet@csi.com ---------- > From: Dave & Deb Park <davepark@ptd.net> > To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Land grants > Date: Saturday, January 16, 1999 10:36 AM > > I was able to find the land patent of Benjamin Beckelhymer in Fountain > County, Indiana; in fact, there are 4 of them; one of them says it has a > comment by Isaac Ferguson. They are dated April 24, 1820. > > Deb > > > ==== BEHYMER Mailing List ==== > What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other > name would smell as sweet--Shakespeare > Pickelheimer, B'Hymer, Beckelhymer, Picklesimon, Behimer, . . . . . . >

I was able to find the land patent of Benjamin Beckelhymer in Fountain County, Indiana; in fact, there are 4 of them; one of them says it has a comment by Isaac Ferguson. They are dated April 24, 1820. Deb

Thanks, BillyBob!! I finally figured out the purpose of the zipcode (that was a classic "duh" on my part)--of course, after I looked up a ton of zipcodes!! And I also got no results, as per the note I just sent out before yours came in. <sigh>.... Maybe they'll be continually adding to this site, I hope..... Thanks again!! ---Susan -----Original Message----- From: William R. Behymer <wbehymer@iglou.com> To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com <BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, January 16, 1999 1:04 PM Subject: Re: Land Patents >Susan, I think you misunderstood the purpose of the zip code on the GLO >homepage. You simply enter YOUR zip code to get into the query page. They >probably use it to do statistics on who is using the database. (The >explanation next to the zip code says "for demographic purposes".) Once >you're in the query page you can search any of the several states covered by >the database. > >I tried to get a listing of all Clermont Co, OH land patents and it came up >with nothing -- there do not appear to be any in the database. The number >of patents in Hamilton Co, OH was only about a dozen or so. > >BillyBob > >-----Original Message----- >From: SUSAN L DEBRUNNER <S_DEBRUNNER@prodigy.net> >To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com <BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Saturday, January 16, 1999 12:52 PM >Subject: Re: Land Patents > > >>John and anyone else who is interested, >> >>I've begun working on the Clermont County land patents. The first step is >>to find out all the potential zip codes, as it looks as if this is the only >>way to do it. Just wanted ya'll to know so our work isn't duplicated. >I've >>looked up all the zip codes for towns in Clermont County and will now begin >>to search the land patents. Maybe if we all take pieces of this, it'll not >>seem so daunting a task!! >> >>---Susan in Chattanooga >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: John Tippet <johndoetippet@csi.com> >>To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com <BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com> >>Date: Saturday, January 16, 1999 10:58 AM >>Subject: Land Patents >> >> >>>I just discovered a fantastic web site that you should all know about. >>>Point your browser to: http://www.glorecords.blm.gov There you will find >a >>>searchable database of original government land patents for several >states, >>>including Ohio, Virginia and Illinois. You can search these by surname >and >>>then download electronic images of the patents themselves! I haven't >spent >>>any time yet searching for Beckelhymer patents. Let me know if anyone >>>finds anything of interest. >>> >>>John Charles Tippet >>>JohnDoeTippet@csi.com >>> >>> >>> >>>==== BEHYMER Mailing List ==== >>>What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other >>>name would smell as sweet--Shakespeare >>>Picklesimer, P'Simer, Pickelsheimer, Simer, Picklesimon, . . . . . . >>> >> >> >>==== BEHYMER Mailing List ==== >>What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other >>name would smell as sweet--Shakespeare >>Behymer, Beckelhymer, Bechtelheimer, BHymer, Bechelheimer, . . . . . . >> >> > > >==== BEHYMER Mailing List ==== >What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other >name would smell as sweet--Shakespeare >Picklesimer, P'Simer, Pickelsheimer, Simer, Picklesimon, . . . . . . >

I've searched Ohio for Beckelhymer, Becklehymer, Bhymer and Behymer and have come up with no matching records. Any suggestions?? ---Susan in Chattanooga -----Original Message----- From: John Tippet <johndoetippet@csi.com> To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com <BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, January 16, 1999 10:58 AM Subject: Land Patents >I just discovered a fantastic web site that you should all know about. >Point your browser to: http://www.glorecords.blm.gov There you will find a >searchable database of original government land patents for several states, >including Ohio, Virginia and Illinois. You can search these by surname and >then download electronic images of the patents themselves! I haven't spent >any time yet searching for Beckelhymer patents. Let me know if anyone >finds anything of interest. > >John Charles Tippet >JohnDoeTippet@csi.com > > > >==== BEHYMER Mailing List ==== >What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other >name would smell as sweet--Shakespeare >Picklesimer, P'Simer, Pickelsheimer, Simer, Picklesimon, . . . . . . >

Susan, I think you misunderstood the purpose of the zip code on the GLO homepage. You simply enter YOUR zip code to get into the query page. They probably use it to do statistics on who is using the database. (The explanation next to the zip code says "for demographic purposes".) Once you're in the query page you can search any of the several states covered by the database. I tried to get a listing of all Clermont Co, OH land patents and it came up with nothing -- there do not appear to be any in the database. The number of patents in Hamilton Co, OH was only about a dozen or so. BillyBob -----Original Message----- From: SUSAN L DEBRUNNER <S_DEBRUNNER@prodigy.net> To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com <BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, January 16, 1999 12:52 PM Subject: Re: Land Patents >John and anyone else who is interested, > >I've begun working on the Clermont County land patents. The first step is >to find out all the potential zip codes, as it looks as if this is the only >way to do it. Just wanted ya'll to know so our work isn't duplicated. I've >looked up all the zip codes for towns in Clermont County and will now begin >to search the land patents. Maybe if we all take pieces of this, it'll not >seem so daunting a task!! > >---Susan in Chattanooga > >-----Original Message----- >From: John Tippet <johndoetippet@csi.com> >To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com <BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Saturday, January 16, 1999 10:58 AM >Subject: Land Patents > > >>I just discovered a fantastic web site that you should all know about. >>Point your browser to: http://www.glorecords.blm.gov There you will find a >>searchable database of original government land patents for several states, >>including Ohio, Virginia and Illinois. You can search these by surname and >>then download electronic images of the patents themselves! I haven't spent >>any time yet searching for Beckelhymer patents. Let me know if anyone >>finds anything of interest. >> >>John Charles Tippet >>JohnDoeTippet@csi.com >> >> >> >>==== BEHYMER Mailing List ==== >>What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other >>name would smell as sweet--Shakespeare >>Picklesimer, P'Simer, Pickelsheimer, Simer, Picklesimon, . . . . . . >> > > >==== BEHYMER Mailing List ==== >What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other >name would smell as sweet--Shakespeare >Behymer, Beckelhymer, Bechtelheimer, BHymer, Bechelheimer, . . . . . . > >

John and anyone else who is interested, I've begun working on the Clermont County land patents. The first step is to find out all the potential zip codes, as it looks as if this is the only way to do it. Just wanted ya'll to know so our work isn't duplicated. I've looked up all the zip codes for towns in Clermont County and will now begin to search the land patents. Maybe if we all take pieces of this, it'll not seem so daunting a task!! ---Susan in Chattanooga -----Original Message----- From: John Tippet <johndoetippet@csi.com> To: BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com <BEHYMER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, January 16, 1999 10:58 AM Subject: Land Patents >I just discovered a fantastic web site that you should all know about. >Point your browser to: http://www.glorecords.blm.gov There you will find a >searchable database of original government land patents for several states, >including Ohio, Virginia and Illinois. You can search these by surname and >then download electronic images of the patents themselves! I haven't spent >any time yet searching for Beckelhymer patents. Let me know if anyone >finds anything of interest. > >John Charles Tippet >JohnDoeTippet@csi.com > > > >==== BEHYMER Mailing List ==== >What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other >name would smell as sweet--Shakespeare >Picklesimer, P'Simer, Pickelsheimer, Simer, Picklesimon, . . . . . . >