Hi listers, Have been enjoying all the postings and answers and thought I would put in my own. This family ends up in Bedford but all indications are at least the Bates line is from Bucks so will put in both mailing lists. Recently identified my Elizabeth Bates who married Richard Tavener in 1770 in Eaton Bray as daughter and only child of Thomas Bates & Katherine _______ Munday Bates, bap 31 Dec 1750 in Leighton Buzzard where parents married 3 May 1748. Katherine was widow of John Munday by whom she had two sons also in Leighton Buzzard: Thomas in 1740 and John in 1742. Can't find Munday marriage for her maiden name. Do see an appropriately aged John Monday bap in 1716 (son of John) in Wing on IGI. Has anyone done research on Mundays in Bucks or Beds who might have advice or the actual marriage? I see lots of Munday , etc., in Oxford but this marriage is not in the Marriage Index for Oxon. On the Bates side there are two possibilities. He could be the Thomas who married Elizabeth (no last name given in extract on IGI) in LB 28 Aug 1716. No children recorded and Elizabeth wife of Thomas Bates of Heath, laborer was bur 20 May 1747. (Everyone I have so far mentioned was resident of Heath.) Very convenient for a remarriage the next year. That presents a problem as I can find three Thomas Bate or Bates on the IGI within a convenient distance of Leighton Buzzard after eliminating some who would be more likely to go to Aylesbury for work. They were baptized between 1680 & 1693, two in Ivinghoe and one in Little Horwood, Bucks. And there are parishes that are not extracted. The other possibility I like better for several reasons. There are two other Bates around who could be related: Sarah who mar John Geeve (?) in LB in 1730 and John Bates who married Sarah Green in 1739 in Cheddington and was having children in LB 1740s and 50s. He is probably John Bates born 1702 and baptized 1703 in Ivinghoe to Joseph & Sarah Herbert Bates who also had a Sarah born 1707, bap 1708 and a Thomas in 1717. And there is a Thomas born 1692 in Ivinghoe to Joseph & Rebecca, probably an uncle of the previous three who could be the one married in 1716 to Elizabeth _______. Any suggestions, enlightments or infant burials that would eliminate any of these? So far haven't gotten into the Ivinghoe registers; have been spoiled by Bedfordshire parish extract books. Thanks, Charlotte