^5 David, et al... I think I'm tending towards agreeing with you on the "Biggleswade theory". The censuses do seem to be pretty consistent with respect to DOB. The IGI only gives a Christening date for William (26 Nov 1786 btw)and not a birth date, so a late baptism is possible, but judging by the information on the siblings, mum and dad seem to have been pretty prompt, so not a strong possibility. The search continues...... Thanks to all for your responses so far. Jerry -----Original Message----- From: David [mailto:david11000carca@yahoo.fr] Sent: 11 May 2006 18:29 To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [BDF] RE: Old Warden...Beds or Herts ? Hi Jerry There are no Hides in Old Warden at that period per the PR transcript, and I'm afraid I don't buy the Biggleswade William theory. The ages of 60 and 71 in the censuses both point to 1780+/-. There was also a William Hide buried in Biggleswade in 1792 but there's no age quoted so reference to the PR would be necessary to see if there are any further details eg son of Richard and Elizabeth. What puzzles me is the Herts county birthplace in 1851 and Not born in Beds in 1841. What if...Herts is correct and Old Warden is a misenumeration? Could it conceivably have been Kings Walden for example - was there part of the parish that was known as Old Walden? (I don't know Herts). Kings Walden has the advantage of being much closer to Houghton Regis than Old Warden. The problem is that whilst Kings Walden has been extracted onto the IGI there's no William Hide! But it's an alternative hypothesis. Regards David Sandford Jeremy-jsandfo1 <Jerry.Sandford@motorola.com> a écrit : Hi listers all... Am trying to trace the parentage of one "William Hide", Spouse of Elizabeth Newman, who married 12 Apr 1803 in Houghton Regis. 1851 census cites William as being born abt 1781 in "Old Warden, Herts".....With 1841 stating residence in Houghton and born "Out of County". However, the closest IGI match I can find for him is a Christening in "Biggleswade, Beds" in 1786...being the seventh child of Richard Hide and Elizabeth Chamberlain. Now from my days at RAF Henlow in the 70's, I recall Old Warden and Biggleswade being fairly Adjacent, but is Old Warden actually (or was it at the time) Beds or Herts ??. And would Old Warden events have been recorded at Biggleswade ? If anyone has access to records or perhaps personal links that could confirm or rule out my hypothesis, would love to hear from you. Best Regards Jerry Sandford ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: Bedford-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. receiving the messages individually or want them individually) or Bedford-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe or unsubscribe. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== The Bedfordshire Surnames List can be viewed at: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html