Hello Bedford, Any one have any information on the Myler clan from Cardington Bedfordshire area? I am looking for Mylers pre 1731. I understand this area was quite small at that time. Any Mylers there then would most likley be related. Thank You Ed Mylar Paradise Ed Mylar From: BEDFORD-D-request@rootsweb.com Reply-To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com To: BEDFORD-D@rootsweb.com Subject: BEDFORD-D Digest V06 #28 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 02:16:34 -0700 >Content-Type: text/plain > >BEDFORD-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 28 > >Today's Topics: >#1 Thanks for the Straw Bonnet Inform [Chris Roberts <c.robertsis@rogers.] >#2 CROFT/OSBORNE - Henlow [Eunice Cubbage <eunice@cubbage.plu] >#3 CROFT - Henlow [Eunice Cubbage <eunice@cubbage.plu] >#4 RE: [BDF] CROFT/OSBORNE - Henlow ["Sandee" <sandee@ionet.net>] >#5 RE: [BDF] CROFT/OSBORNE - Henlow [David <david11000carca@yahoo.fr>] >#6 Re: [BDF] CROFT/OSBORNE - Henlow [Eunice Cubbage <eunice@cubbage.plu] >#7 Henlow - 1841 Census - Samuel CROF [Eunice Cubbage <eunice@cubbage.plu] >#8 Eaton Socon Overseers (of the Poor ["Jim Bundy" <jbundy48@comcast.net>] >#9 BOSWELL. GASCOIGNE. POULTON. ["carol" <crb@beattie727.freeserve.] >#10 RE: [BDF] Henlow - 1841 Census - S [David <david11000carca@yahoo.fr>] >#11 Re: [BDF] BOSWELL. GASCOIGNE. POUL [AudreyJoyceMcC@aol.com] >#12 Re: [BDF] Henlow - 1841 Census - S ["Ruth Croft" <ruth@brum38.fsnet.co] >#13 Re: [BDF] KIGHTLEY family of Hough ["pauline davy" <perilsofpauline1@h] >#14 Re: [BDF] KIGHTLEY family of Hough ["Sandee" <sandee@ionet.net>] >#15 Re: [BDF] CROFT/OSBORNE - Henlow ["Sandee" <sandee@ionet.net>] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from BEDFORD-D, send a message to > >BEDFORD-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > >unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >To unsubscribe on the web, go to > >http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/subscribe.html > >Hugh > >Listowner > >hugh@xtra.co.nz >______________________________ >X-Message: #1 >Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 17:27:58 -0500 >From: Chris Roberts <c.robertsis@rogers.com> >To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com >Message-Id: <3721c94e691f7aaef6060b133133e7d5@rogers.com> >Subject: Thanks for the Straw Bonnet Information >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > >Thank you to Sharon, Patricia, Kirsten , Elizabeth and Margaret who >made comments and gave information regarding my "Bonnet Sewers" and >"Straw Plaiters" in Dunstable. I especially enjoyed Kirsten's quote >from Eve, who is very knowledgeable with 'down to earth take,' as >always. Also, I recommend Patricia's posted web-site >www.hertfordshire-genealogy.co.uk/data/occupations/straw-plait.htm >for tons of information on this very important work source in past >centuries and particularly, Luton in the nineteenth century. > >As always, the list folk are an amazing forum of information--everyone >gets to help at some time or another, and I am grateful that this time, >I was the recipient. I found out a whole lot about the straw hat >industry and the many people in Bedfordshire who worked in this field. > >Many thanks, > >Chris in Ontario > >______________________________ >X-Message: #2 >Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:51:21 +0000 >From: Eunice Cubbage <eunice@cubbage.plus.com> >To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <43F85BB9.7050306@cubbage.plus.com> >Subject: CROFT/OSBORNE - Henlow >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Whilst doing some lookups on my FULFORD ancestors, specifically an Esther >Fulford who married into the Timpson family who were originally from >Clifton >Reynes, Bucks, I may have stumbled upon a Bedford onnection. > >I have been trying to find out a little about Walter O Croft, who was born >at St Pancras around 1840. I was interested in him because in 1901 he has >his cousin, Eliza TIMPSON, a widow, living with him in London. ELiza's >husband, Isaac Timpson, had died in 1880. > >I have found Walter Croft in 1891, and living with him was a sister, Jane E >Croft (unmarried), also born St Pancras. I then looked on the IGI hoping to >find Walter and Jane's births (1840 & 1833-ish, respectively), and have >traced Jane to a Samuel Croft and his wife, Susan, nee Osborne, who were >married in Henlow, Bedfordshire in 1826 (There - got to the Bedford >connection at last!) > >I am thinking this is a possible connection because Eliza's son, Edward >Timpson (who married Esther Augusta Fulford) had the middle name Osborn, >and >continued the tradition by giving one of his sons, Harry (b.1890) the >middle >name Osborn, also. (I suspect the O in Walter O Croft is also Osborn) > >I hope you have followed this so far, I am hoping to hear from anyone who >knows anything about Samuel Croft and Susan Osborn, who can confirm any of >this. > >Thanks for reading > >Regards > >Eunice Cubbage > >______________________________ >X-Message: #3 >Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 12:05:30 +0000 >From: Eunice Cubbage <eunice@cubbage.plus.com> >To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <43F85F0A.1000907@cubbage.plus.com> >Subject: CROFT - Henlow >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Further to my previous message, some further digging has proved my >thinking, >Walter Osborn Croft was definitely the son of Samuel Croft, who was born at >Henlow Beds around 1805. > >If anyone on the list is researching OSBORNs from Henlow, I'd love to hear >from them. > >The name EASON (Poss. EASTON) also figures. > >Thanks > >Eunice CUbbage > >______________________________ >X-Message: #4 >Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 06:55:04 -0600 >From: "Sandee" <sandee@ionet.net> >To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <410-22006201912554860@ionet.net> >Subject: RE: [BDF] CROFT/OSBORNE - Henlow >Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >I am still going thru this film, but so far have found: >LDS 1042926, Campton Church of England Parish Records: > >26Jan1812: Baptised Rebecca, daughter of William and Mary Croft >20Mar1785 Buried ___ Thomas Osborn > >not much so far, but hopefully it will eventually 'plug in' :) >sandee > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Eunice Cubbage <eunice@cubbage.plus.com> > > To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: 2/19/2006 5:52:18 AM > > Subject: [BDF] CROFT/OSBORNE - Henlow > > > > Whilst doing some lookups on my FULFORD ancestors, specifically an >Esther > > Fulford who married into the Timpson family who were originally from >Clifton > > Reynes, Bucks, I may have stumbled upon a Bedford onnection. > > > > I have been trying to find out a little about Walter O Croft, who was >born > > at St Pancras around 1840. I was interested in him because in 1901 he >has > > his cousin, Eliza TIMPSON, a widow, living with him in London. ELiza's > > husband, Isaac Timpson, had died in 1880. > > > > I have found Walter Croft in 1891, and living with him was a sister, >Jane >E > > Croft (unmarried), also born St Pancras. I then looked on the IGI hoping >to > > find Walter and Jane's births (1840 & 1833-ish, respectively), and have > > traced Jane to a Samuel Croft and his wife, Susan, nee Osborne, who were > > married in Henlow, Bedfordshire in 1826 (There - got to the Bedford > > connection at last!) > > > > I am thinking this is a possible connection because Eliza's son, Edward > > Timpson (who married Esther Augusta Fulford) had the middle name Osborn, >and > > continued the tradition by giving one of his sons, Harry (b.1890) the >middle > > name Osborn, also. (I suspect the O in Walter O Croft is also Osborn) > > > > I hope you have followed this so far, I am hoping to hear from anyone >who > > knows anything about Samuel Croft and Susan Osborn, who can confirm any >of this. > > > > Thanks for reading > > > > Regards > > > > Eunice Cubbage > > > > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > > > >______________________________ >X-Message: #5 >Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 14:24:37 +0100 (CET) >From: David <david11000carca@yahoo.fr> >To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <20060219132437.9954.qmail@web26314.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> >Subject: RE: [BDF] CROFT/OSBORNE - Henlow >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >Hi Eunice > >Samuel Craft was the elder brother of my 3xg gt aunt Mary Ann Craft b 1808 >Henlow who married into my Cooper forebears. He was christened on 30 June >1805 at Henlow, the son of Samuel and Elizabeth Craft. Samuel snr was >christened at Astwick Beds on 26 June 1768, and he married Elizabeth Bailey >at Astwick on 12 Oct 1793. She was born at Ashwell Herts c 1766 (she was >aged 85 in 1851). > >Osborn was not a Henlow name and I can't see where Susan was from. She was >dead by 1861 where Samuel was a widower but I can't find the family in >1851. I'll carry on digging > >Regards > >David > >Eunice Cubbage <eunice@cubbage.plus.com> a écrit : Whilst doing some >lookups on my FULFORD ancestors, specifically an Esther >Fulford who married into the Timpson family who were originally from >Clifton >Reynes, Bucks, I may have stumbled upon a Bedford onnection. > >I have been trying to find out a little about Walter O Croft, who was born >at St Pancras around 1840. I was interested in him because in 1901 he has >his cousin, Eliza TIMPSON, a widow, living with him in London. ELiza's >husband, Isaac Timpson, had died in 1880. > >I have found Walter Croft in 1891, and living with him was a sister, Jane E >Croft (unmarried), also born St Pancras. I then looked on the IGI hoping to >find Walter and Jane's births (1840 & 1833-ish, respectively), and have >traced Jane to a Samuel Croft and his wife, Susan, nee Osborne, who were >married in Henlow, Bedfordshire in 1826 (There - got to the Bedford >connection at last!) > >I am thinking this is a possible connection because Eliza's son, Edward >Timpson (who married Esther Augusta Fulford) had the middle name Osborn, >and >continued the tradition by giving one of his sons, Harry (b.1890) the >middle >name Osborn, also. (I suspect the O in Walter O Croft is also Osborn) > >I hope you have followed this so far, I am hoping to hear from anyone who >knows anything about Samuel Croft and Susan Osborn, who can confirm any of >this. > >Thanks for reading > >Regards > >Eunice Cubbage > > >==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== >For any updates our info about the status of this list go to >http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > > > > >- ------------------------------- >Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs >exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international.Téléchargez la >version beta. > >______________________________ >X-Message: #6 >Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:11:25 +0000 >From: Eunice Cubbage <eunice@cubbage.plus.com> >To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <43F8B4CD.1090207@cubbage.plus.com> >Subject: Re: [BDF] CROFT/OSBORNE - Henlow >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >David - > >Thanks for the info - I see you refer to Craft rather than Croft - were >these two names interchangeable ? > >Eunice > > >David wrote: > > Hi Eunice > > > > Samuel Craft was the elder brother of my 3xg gt aunt Mary Ann Craft b >1808 Henlow who married into my Cooper forebears. He was christened on 30 >June 1805 at Henlow, the son of Samuel and Elizabeth Craft. Samuel snr was >christened at Astwick Beds on 26 June 1768, and he married Elizabeth Bailey >at Astwick on 12 Oct 1793. She was born at Ashwell Herts c 1766 (she was >aged 85 in 1851). > > > > Osborn was not a Henlow name and I can't see where Susan was from. She >was dead by 1861 where Samuel was a widower but I can't find the family in >1851. I'll carry on digging > > > > Regards > > > > David > >______________________________ >X-Message: #7 >Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:46:18 +0000 >From: Eunice Cubbage <eunice@cubbage.plus.com> >To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <43F8BCFA.5020605@cubbage.plus.com> >Subject: Henlow - 1841 Census - Samuel CROFT/CRAFT >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hi, I haven't done any research in Bedfordshire, so am not sure what >records >are easily searchable. > >Can anyone check the 1841 Census for Henlow, I'm looking for a Samuel Croft >(or Craft) and his wife, Susan, and any children. > >Hope someone can help. > >Regards > >Eunice Cubbage > >______________________________ >X-Message: #8 >Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 10:53:55 -0800 >From: "Jim Bundy" <jbundy48@comcast.net> >To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <005401c63585$d5962ff0$6600a8c0@jbundy> >Subject: Eaton Socon Overseers (of the Poor) Account book 1800, note 56 >Content-Type: text/plain; >format=flowed; >charset="iso-8859-1"; >reply-type=original >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >(Date) (Name/Item) (Amount) > >1800 Brot Over 29/2/4 > >July 15 Pd James Fulch 3/6 Finding 2/ 0/5/6 > >T Walker 2/ Hattwood 3/ Briggs 10/ 0/15/0 > >Salloway 3/6 W Barker 2/ Mayes 2/6 >0/8/0 > >Mary Oakley 7/6 Sumpter 3/ 0/10/6 > >Wid Ray 2/6 Sallaway 2/6 0/5/0 > >Wid Thornton 1/6 Wid Gobby 3/ 0/4/6 > >Thos Rowlett 5/ Wid Gardner 5/ 0/10/0 > >Jno Oakley 1/ Fisher 1/6 Cross 2/6 0/5/0 > >16th Pd Taylor 4/ W Gardner 5/ 0/9/0 > >Jno Newman 2/ Cleland 5/ 0/7/0 > >W Hix 1/ Quince's Son Jarbretty 3 wks 8/ 0/9/0 > >Thos Rowlett 2/6 W Barker 2/ 0/4/6 > >Thos Fisher 2/ T Cranfield 6/ 0/8/0 > >Four Paupers on the Road 0/1/6 > >W Valentine 3/ Hull 1/ Attwood 3/6 0/7/6 > >Geo Childs 3/ Hen Maddy 1/6 0/4/6 > >Quince 1/6 Jos Newman 2/ 0/3/6 > >Ann Simpson 2/ Hix 1/ 0/3/0 > >Pd Brit Brace 1/ Math pay to 13 Aug >0/8/0 > >Ma Shelton 2/ W James 2/ Jarvis 1/ 0/5/0 > >Shadbolt 6/ Bastefield 2/6 0/8/6 > >Sallaway 3/6 Townsend 4/ 0/7/6 > >Jno Mason 3/ T Cullup 1/ 0/4/0 > >Geo Walker 4/ Robinson 5/ 0/9/0 > >Thos Griffin 2/6 Muffin 4/6 0/7/0 > >Sar Neal 3/ Eliz Endersby 1/6 0/4/6 > >Rob Barns 1/ Booth's Child 2/ 0/3/0 > >Rt Quince 2/6 Sumpter 2/6 0/5/0 > >Wid Peck 4/ Wid Barker 4/ 0/8/0 > >Ma Cranfield 1/6 Brown 1/6 0/3/0 > >Eliz Day 2/6 Pheby Darlow 4/ 0/6/6 > >Edy Barker 2/ Grace Briley /6 0/3/6 > >Eliz Goodchild 1/ Sim Bass 3/ 0/4/0 > >Sar Day 5/ Wid Dee 2/ 0/7/0 > >Amy Emery 1/ Mary Oakley 1/6 0/2/6 > >Mary Clark 2/ W Hull 1/ 0/3/0 > >(total) 41/2/4 > >______________________________ >X-Message: #9 >Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:31:03 -0000 >From: "carol" <crb@beattie727.freeserve.co.uk> >To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <002d01c6358b$05d59ed0$06414154@D225D71J> >Subject: BOSWELL. GASCOIGNE. POULTON. >Content-Type: text/plain; >charset="iso-8859-1" > >I am reposting my interests in the hope that someone might offer some >information about the following people. They were possibly Romanies. > >SIDNEY BOSWELL b 1877 NORTHAMPTON. >FREDERICK GASCOIGNE b approx 1858 BEDFORD. >ELIZA POULTON b 1878 Frederick's first wife. >SUSANNAH B 1866. > >I have located them on the 1891 and 1901 censuses but have not been able to >find a B.M. or D for any of them. Until I find some Birth Marriage or Death >certificates for these people I cant move on. I wait with baited breath >hoping someone might be able to help. >Thankyou, >Carol > >______________________________ >X-Message: #10 >Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 21:03:38 +0100 (CET) >From: David <david11000carca@yahoo.fr> >To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <20060219200338.8014.qmail@web26310.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> >Subject: RE: [BDF] Henlow - 1841 Census - Samuel CROFT/CRAFT >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >Hi Eunice > >They were all Craft or Crafts until the mid 1820s when the spelling seemed >to change to Croft > >They weren't in Henlow in 1841 (I checked) - by that time they were already >in St Pancras, London, as in 1861 Jane was 28 and Walter was 21 both with a >birthplace St Pancras > >I haven't been able to find them in 1851 but suspect that Susannah may have >died in late 1850 as there is a death in St Pancras of Susannah Croft in >the Dec quarter. > >Regards > >David > >Eunice Cubbage <eunice@cubbage.plus.com> a écrit : Hi, I haven't done any >research in Bedfordshire, so am not sure what records >are easily searchable. > >Can anyone check the 1841 Census for Henlow, I'm looking for a Samuel Croft >(or Craft) and his wife, Susan, and any children. > >Hope someone can help. > >Regards > >Eunice Cubbage > > >==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== >The Bedfordshire Family History Page is at >http://www.bfhs.org.uk > > > > >- ------------------------------- >Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs >exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international.Téléchargez la >version beta. > >______________________________ >X-Message: #11 >Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 15:56:15 EST >From: AudreyJoyceMcC@aol.com >To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <1db.4ce7d260.312a356f@aol.com> >Subject: Re: [BDF] BOSWELL. GASCOIGNE. POULTON. >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >Carol > >I think the Romanies are fairly well documented although not as well in >official sources. > >Certainly, the BOSWELLs are documented in Spalding > >Please try: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > >cathy > >______________________________ >X-Message: #12 >Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 23:43:21 -0000 >From: "Ruth Croft" <ruth@brum38.fsnet.co.uk> >To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <00e801c635ae$4b4013b0$0a01a8c0@croftpc> >Subject: Re: [BDF] Henlow - 1841 Census - Samuel CROFT/CRAFT >Content-Type: text/plain; >charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >David said: > > They were all Craft or Crafts until the mid 1820s when the spelling >seemed to change to Croft< > >It seems to have been exactly the same over the border in Hertfordshire too >with my 'Craft/Croft gang'. >Mind you, that's easy compared with at least 7 different Lessels spellings >of children baptised in one single family of mine in Fife - and no, I >haven't managed to trace their descendants properly yet! > >Good luck, > >Ruth in Brum. (Birmingham, England.) > >______________________________ >X-Message: #13 >Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 11:16:10 +1000 >From: "pauline davy" <perilsofpauline1@hotmail.com> >To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <BAY105-F11722B35E9A3944B0C47128CFF0@phx.gbl> >Subject: Re: [BDF] KIGHTLEY family of Houghton Conquest >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > >Hi everyone - I'm butting in here, hope you don't mind, but you mentioned a >family who had three children named William, obviously the first two had >died. Does anyone find, as I do, that these children who are given a >deceased siblings name, often die themselves? Just recently I came across a >Margaret, three times a child was christened that, and three times the baby >died. This doesn't seem to be an isolated incident either. I'd be >interested >in what other listers think. >Regards, >Pauline in OZ > > > >From: "Peter Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> > >Reply-To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com > >To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [BDF] KIGHTLEY family of Houghton Conquest > >Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 16:49:03 +1100 > > > >Donna, > > > > I don't have any links to this family. But your's was the only > >message received today, so I had the luxury of some time to have a close > >look. Lucky for you. > > > > I've been advising people for years to click on batch numbers on > >IGI records. It's amazing what you find. > > > > I found the 1694 record for Elizabeth, clicked on the batch number > >and searched for KIGHTLEY. Only the one record came back up. I suspected > >possible surname variants. It would be unusual for just one child. > > > > Not to be outdone, I searched the batch again, this time using just > >father's given name Francis. Et Voila !!. Elizabeth and seven brothers >and > >sisters all with different surname spellings. Only one included a >mother's > >name Elizabeth. Primed with success I went and found the marriage. > > > > Francis Kitely married Elizabeth Cliffton on 3rd May 1677 in > >Houghton Conquest. Elizabeth was the youngest of eight children. The name > >William was used three times suggesting the earlier two had died. The > >children were :- Francis 1678, William (I) 1680, John 1682, Joseph 1685, > >William (II) 1687, William (III) 1689, James 1691 and Elizabeth 1694. > > > > I also clicked on the batch number for the marriage record. It > >indicated that Elizabeth Cliffton had a brother John who married Ann > >Slingsby. > > > > Your back in the "dark ages" when it comes to finding birth records > >for Francis and Elizabeth. I found nothing for Francis, but there was an > >Elizabeth Clifton b1849 at Houghton Conquest. It makes her 28 at marriage > >which might be a bit old for the era. And there are lots of Elizabeth's >in > >other counties. > > > > That will give you something to do for a couple of days. Hope you > >can follow the logic. get back to me if you have problems. > > > > Good luck > > > > Peter in Sydney > > > >PS!! Some of the variant spellings were Kitely, Kightly, Kitly, Citly, > >Keightley and Kitghtley. > > > > > >==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > >The Bedfordshire Surnames List can be viewed at: > >http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >realestate.com.au: the biggest address in property >http://ninemsn.realestate.com.au > >______________________________ >X-Message: #14 >Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:37:14 -0600 >From: "Sandee" <sandee@ionet.net> >To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <410-22006212023714490@ionet.net> >Subject: Re: [BDF] KIGHTLEY family of Houghton Conquest >Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >i have also noticed this throught the years......in fact, can only readily >remember one incident when a child that was named after a deceased sib >survived! i understand the parents reasoning for 'honoring' a deceased >child....but the bad luck ogre seems to prevail. > > > > [Original Message] > > From: pauline davy <perilsofpauline1@hotmail.com> > > To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: 2/19/2006 7:16:50 PM > > Subject: Re: [BDF] KIGHTLEY family of Houghton Conquest > > > > Hi everyone - I'm butting in here, hope you don't mind, but you >mentioned >a > > family who had three children named William, obviously the first two had > > died. Does anyone find, as I do, that these children who are given a > > deceased siblings name, often die themselves? Just recently I came >across >a > > Margaret, three times a child was christened that, and three times the >baby > > died. This doesn't seem to be an isolated incident either. I'd be >interested > > in what other listers think. > > Regards, > > Pauline in OZ > > > > > > >From: "Peter Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> > > >Reply-To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Re: [BDF] KIGHTLEY family of Houghton Conquest > > >Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 16:49:03 +1100 > > > > > >Donna, > > > > > > I don't have any links to this family. But your's was the only > > >message received today, so I had the luxury of some time to have a >close > > >look. Lucky for you. > > > > > > I've been advising people for years to click on batch numbers on > > >IGI records. It's amazing what you find. > > > > > > I found the 1694 record for Elizabeth, clicked on the batch >number > > >and searched for KIGHTLEY. Only the one record came back up. I >suspected > > >possible surname variants. It would be unusual for just one child. > > > > > > Not to be outdone, I searched the batch again, this time using >just > > >father's given name Francis. Et Voila !!. Elizabeth and seven brothers >and > > >sisters all with different surname spellings. Only one included a >mother's > > >name Elizabeth. Primed with success I went and found the marriage. > > > > > > Francis Kitely married Elizabeth Cliffton on 3rd May 1677 in > > >Houghton Conquest. Elizabeth was the youngest of eight children. The >name > > >William was used three times suggesting the earlier two had died. The > > >children were :- Francis 1678, William (I) 1680, John 1682, Joseph >1685, > > >William (II) 1687, William (III) 1689, James 1691 and Elizabeth 1694. > > > > > > I also clicked on the batch number for the marriage record. It > > >indicated that Elizabeth Cliffton had a brother John who married Ann > > >Slingsby. > > > > > > Your back in the "dark ages" when it comes to finding birth >records > > >for Francis and Elizabeth. I found nothing for Francis, but there was >an > > >Elizabeth Clifton b1849 at Houghton Conquest. It makes her 28 at >marriage > > >which might be a bit old for the era. And there are lots of Elizabeth's >in > > >other counties. > > > > > > That will give you something to do for a couple of days. Hope >you > > >can follow the logic. get back to me if you have problems. > > > > > > Good luck > > > > > > Peter in Sydney > > > > > >PS!! Some of the variant spellings were Kitely, Kightly, Kitly, Citly, > > >Keightley and Kitghtley. > > > > > > > > >==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > > >The Bedfordshire Surnames List can be viewed at: > > >http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > realestate.com.au: the biggest address in property > > http://ninemsn.realestate.com.au > > > > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > > > >______________________________ >X-Message: #15 >Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 21:31:14 -0600 >From: "Sandee" <sandee@ionet.net> >To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <410-22006212033114490@ionet.net> >Subject: Re: [BDF] CROFT/OSBORNE - Henlow >Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >Per LDS 1042925, Campton Parish Records: i show: > >John Cooper, m Mary, had dau Ann. Ann died 11Mar1784 >Emma Cooper m Enoch George ODell, 14May1894 >Fredrick Cooper m Elizabeth Wells, 11Nov1877 >George Cooper m Elizabeth Frombeley, 25Dec1780 >James Cooper bap 1805, son of George and Elizabeth (Frombley) Cooper >Mary Cooper dau George and Elizabeth (Frombley) christened 16Sep1810 >Thomas Cooper son of George and Elizabeth (Frombley) christened 16Aug1807 >William Cooper son of George and Elizabeth (Frombley), christened >17Apr1802, m Elizabeth Watts, 8Nov__ >James Cooper buried 1662 >John Cooper m Mary >Joseph Cooper m Fanny Thompson12Dec1666 >Michael Cooper m Ann Wells, 25Oct1818 >Thomas Cooper m Sarah Wells, 29May17__ >The Widow Cooper m Robert Sharp 24Oct1662 > >I am still plugging away at this microfilm, have barely scratched the >surface! my connections are WELLS and ODELL. > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Eunice Cubbage <eunice@cubbage.plus.com> > > To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: 2/19/2006 12:12:12 PM > > Subject: Re: [BDF] CROFT/OSBORNE - Henlow > > > > David - > > > > Thanks for the info - I see you refer to Craft rather than Croft - were > > these two names interchangeable ? > > > > Eunice > > > > > > David wrote: > > > Hi Eunice > > > > > > Samuel Craft was the elder brother of my 3xg gt aunt Mary Ann Craft b >1808 Henlow who married into my Cooper forebears. He was christened on 30 >June 1805 at Henlow, the son of Samuel and Elizabeth Craft. Samuel snr was >christened at Astwick Beds on 26 June 1768, and he married Elizabeth >Bailey at Astwick on 12 Oct 1793. She was born at Ashwell Herts c 1766 >(she was aged 85 in 1851). > > > > > > Osborn was not a Henlow name and I can't see where Susan was from. >She was dead by 1861 where Samuel was a widower but I can't find the >family in 1851. I'll carry on digging > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > David > > > > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > > Bedfordshire at Rootsweb > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~engbdf/ > >