Hi Andy There was only one Topham family in Arlesey at this time: John and wife, whose first child was baptised on 19 Sept 1672 and whose last child was in March 1681,. a month after the burial of his father John. When this last child was buried later in 1681 he was described as "son of widow Topham". In none of the baptisms of the 5 children was the mother's name given. Arlesey is only across the fields from Astwick (whose main claim to fame is that my parents were married there!) and I wonder if it was the widow of John who married William Dear. Have you checked Astwick parish register to see if either of them was described as widow? I can only see 2 children baptised in Arlesey to William and Jane so I wonder if they might have been older than the usual newlyweds. There was a marriage of John Topham and Jane Cole in Northill on 25 Nov 1671 (this is an IGI member submission so needs checking) and there are no subsequent Topham baptisms in Northill, so it might also be worth checking Northill parish register (there are burials of John in 1698 and Joanna in 1691 so these might be the couple who married there or possibly John's parents?) Best I can come up with I'm afraid! Regards David ANDY DEAR <andy.dear@btinternet.com> a écrit : David, I have just the one Topham - Joan or Jane birth date and place unknown but married my 8th great grandfather William Dear at Astwick on 29th April 1685. I have a burial for her at Arlesey on 27th March 1717. Any chance you have anything on her?? Regards, Andy -----Original Message----- From: David [mailto:david11000carca@yahoo.fr] Sent: 27 February 2006 22:26 To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BDF] Eversholt Parish Registers Where were your Tophams from Lyle? I have a load from Arlesey, Beds Regards David Kate in Notts a écrit : Sorry, Lyle no Tophams or varients of Topham at all. Kate :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "lyle topham" To: Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] Eversholt Parish Registers > Hi Kate, > > Are there any Tophams in it? > > Lyle Topham > Saratoga, CA, USA > > --- Kate in Notts > wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> I have the transcription of the parish registers for >> Eversholt from 1602 - 1812 if anyone would like a >> look up doing. Just email me if so. >> >> TTFN >> Kate >> padkat.familytree@ntlworld.com >> >> >> ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== >> The Bedfordshire Family History Page is at >> http://www.bfhs.org.uk >> >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > When REPLYING to a message sent to the list decide if this is information > that all the list members would like to know about or whether it would > only be of interest to the individual you are replying to. > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: Bedford-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. receiving the messages individually or want them individually) or Bedford-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe or unsubscribe. --------------------------------- Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international.Téléchargez la version beta. ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== For any updates our info about the status of this list go to http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== The Bedfordshire Surnames List can be viewed at: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html --------------------------------- Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international.Téléchargez la version beta.

Thanks, David, I'm currently digging through the IGI and have seen some of those submissions but was hoping for more supportable information with original source info. Lyle --- David <david11000carca@yahoo.fr> wrote: > Hi Andy > > There was only one Topham family in Arlesey at > this time: John and wife, whose first child was > baptised on 19 Sept 1672 and whose last child was > in March 1681,. a month after the burial of his > father John. When this last child was buried later > in 1681 he was described as "son of widow Topham". > In none of the baptisms of the 5 children was the > mother's name given. > > Arlesey is only across the fields from Astwick > (whose main claim to fame is that my parents were > married there!) and I wonder if it was the widow of > John who married William Dear. Have you checked > Astwick parish register to see if either of them > was described as widow? I can only see 2 children > baptised in Arlesey to William and Jane so I wonder > if they might have been older than the usual > newlyweds. > > There was a marriage of John Topham and Jane Cole > in Northill on 25 Nov 1671 (this is an IGI member > submission so needs checking) and there are no > subsequent Topham baptisms in Northill, so it might > also be worth checking Northill parish register > (there are burials of John in 1698 and Joanna in > 1691 so these might be the couple who married there > or possibly John's parents?) > > Best I can come up with I'm afraid! > > Regards > > David > > > > ANDY DEAR <andy.dear@btinternet.com> a écrit : > David, > > I have just the one Topham - Joan or Jane birth date > and place unknown but > married my 8th great grandfather William Dear at > Astwick on 29th April 1685. > > I have a burial for her at Arlesey on 27th March > 1717. > > Any chance you have anything on her?? > > Regards, > > Andy > > -----Original Message----- > From: David [mailto:david11000carca@yahoo.fr] > Sent: 27 February 2006 22:26 > To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BDF] Eversholt Parish Registers > > Where were your Tophams from Lyle? I have a load > from Arlesey, Beds > > Regards > > David > > Kate in Notts > a écrit : Sorry, Lyle no > Tophams or varients of Topham at all. > > Kate :) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "lyle topham" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 4:51 PM > Subject: Re: [BDF] Eversholt Parish Registers > > > > Hi Kate, > > > > Are there any Tophams in it? > > > > Lyle Topham > > Saratoga, CA, USA > > > > --- Kate in Notts > > > wrote: > > > >> Hi all > >> > >> I have the transcription of the parish registers > for > >> Eversholt from 1602 - 1812 if anyone would like a > >> look up doing. Just email me if so. > >> > >> TTFN > >> Kate > >> padkat.familytree@ntlworld.com > >> > >> > >> ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > >> The Bedfordshire Family History Page is at > >> http://www.bfhs.org.uk > >> > >> > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > > When REPLYING to a message sent to the list decide > if this is information > > that all the list members would like to know about > or whether it would > > only be of interest to the individual you are > replying to. > > > > > > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > Bedford-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail > mode i.e. receiving the > messages > individually or want them individually) > > or > > Bedford-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest > mode i.e. receiving a > digest of multiple > messages or want this mode) > > In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) > type the word subscribe or > unsubscribe. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! > Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs > exceptionnels pour appeler la France et > l'international.Téléchargez la > version beta. > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this > list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > > > > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > The Bedfordshire Surnames List can be viewed at: > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! > Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour > appeler la France et l'international.Téléchargez la > version beta. > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > The Bedfordshire Family History Page is at > http://www.bfhs.org.uk > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com