Hi All, Am seeking someone, with a vested interest perhaps, who may be able to help me with another problem. I am trying to confirm the paternal line for my Gt Grandmother, one Lily (Lillie)Robinson, who later married George Fowler, Both of Houghton Regis, I believe. My "Assumed" (Lillie) first appears on the scene, in the 1871 Census for Houghton Regis, as the G-Daughter of Thomas Robinson. Born c1870, in Houghton. She then disappears again, until she appears on my Grandmother's (Edith Fowler) Birth certificate 5 Apr 1892 (now Lily), (I have the original copy given to them by the registrar, so I at least know that is accurate!!) I have searched all on-line records I can find, but try as I may, I can not located her before or after 1871. No Birth Record, residence, possible Father, etc. Neither can I locate any record of her marriage to George Fowler Thomas's only listed son in the 1851, is George (Robinson), and although he seems to survive and marry, he does not appear to be Lily's father. But was there another son ?? (41 census perhaps) ?. The census records for this family are a bit convoluted, and I know for a fact there are transcription errors, on "Ancestry" at least. I very vaguely remember my "Great Grandma Fowler", from my childhood and I have a photo, so I know she existed........BUT where did she come from ??? I know how some of you guys love to unravel these problems, so any information, ideas, or even wild guesses appreciated. Very Best Regards Jerry Sandford Senior Technical Training Instructor Technical Training Network Services and Applications Management Telephone: ++44(0)1793 568361 Email: Jerry.Sandford@Motorola.com <mailto:Jerry.Sandford@Motorola.com> Http://www.motorola.com/networksupport

Jeremy, On the 1871 census, Lillie Robinson is not the only grandchild listed of Thomas and Ann Robinson. There is also Alphonse, 2, and Arthur, 8 months. It is reasonable to assume that they are siblings. The IGI shows a baptism for Alphonse, mother Susannah Robinson. There is also an 1849 baptism for Susannah Robinson, daughter of Thomas and Ann. Again from the IGI it appears that this Susannah Robinson marries Matthew Bliss in Feb 1881. With Matthew and Susan Bliss in 1881 is a son Edward Robinson, 8. I can't find Lillie, Alphonse or Arthur in 1881. I haven't found a birth or marriage for Lillie Robinson on FreeBMD. It may be that they haven't yet been transcribed. Regards Steven Gibbs Bedford

Hi Jerry I'm a slow typer so some of this has been covered already by Stephen, but you can have it in full anyway Let’s backtrack to 1861 where RG9/1010 folio 48B High St Houghton Regis Thomas Robinson head marr 47 Ann Robinson wife 42 Mary Robinson 18 unm Susan Robinson dau 13 Sarah Robinson 11 William Evans son in law marr 30 Elizabeth Evans dau 20 All born Houghton Regis In 1871 as you have found Thomas 56 b Toddington, Ann wife 53, Sarah dau unmarr 22, Alphonso grandson 2; Lillie granddau 1; Arthur grandson 2mths There’s a birth/baptism on the IGI of Alphony Robinson in 1869 at Houghton Regis, son of Susannah Robinson. There’s a marriage of Susannah Robinson 32 to Matthew Bliss 25 in 1881 at Houghton Regis. But there’s no Alphonso or Lillie with them in 1881 There’s a marriage of Sarah Robinson to William Allen in 1872 in Houghton Regis. They appear in 1881 in Houghton Regis with Arthur Allen age 10. He is probably Arthur Robinson from the 1871. Again though no sign of Lillie. Given the track record I suspect that Lillie could be the illegitimate dau of one or other of Susannah or Sarah, rather than of a son of Thomas and Ann. But I can’t find her in 1881 either. Perhaps she was already in service. In 1891 she’s married to George Fowler in Houghton Regis (I see you know this as you submitted a correction to the name which was mistranscribed as Forder) There’s a birth of Lilly Robinson in Luton registration district, which includes Houghton Regis, in Sept 1869 vol 3b page 413, which fits with an age of 1 in Apr 1871. Regards David Sandford Jeremy-jsandfo1 <Jerry.Sandford@motorola.com> a écrit : Hi All, Am seeking someone, with a vested interest perhaps, who may be able to help me with another problem. I am trying to confirm the paternal line for my Gt Grandmother, one Lily (Lillie)Robinson, who later married George Fowler, Both of Houghton Regis, I believe. My "Assumed" (Lillie) first appears on the scene, in the 1871 Census for Houghton Regis, as the G-Daughter of Thomas Robinson. Born c1870, in Houghton. She then disappears again, until she appears on my Grandmother's (Edith Fowler) Birth certificate 5 Apr 1892 (now Lily), (I have the original copy given to them by the registrar, so I at least know that is accurate!!) I have searched all on-line records I can find, but try as I may, I can not located her before or after 1871. No Birth Record, residence, possible Father, etc. Neither can I locate any record of her marriage to George Fowler Thomas's only listed son in the 1851, is George (Robinson), and although he seems to survive and marry, he does not appear to be Lily's father. But was there another son ?? (41 census perhaps) ?. The census records for this family are a bit convoluted, and I know for a fact there are transcription errors, on "Ancestry" at least. I very vaguely remember my "Great Grandma Fowler", from my childhood and I have a photo, so I know she existed........BUT where did she come from ??? I know how some of you guys love to unravel these problems, so any information, ideas, or even wild guesses appreciated. Very Best Regards Jerry Sandford Senior Technical Training Instructor Technical Training Network Services and Applications Management Telephone: ++44(0)1793 568361 Email: Jerry.Sandford@Motorola.com Http://www.motorola.com/networksupport ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== To do a search of the Bedford Archives go to http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Enter Bedford in the box --------------------------------- Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international.Téléchargez la version beta.