i have also noticed this throught the years......in fact, can only readily remember one incident when a child that was named after a deceased sib survived! i understand the parents reasoning for 'honoring' a deceased child....but the bad luck ogre seems to prevail. > [Original Message] > From: pauline davy <perilsofpauline1@hotmail.com> > To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 2/19/2006 7:16:50 PM > Subject: Re: [BDF] KIGHTLEY family of Houghton Conquest > > Hi everyone - I'm butting in here, hope you don't mind, but you mentioned a > family who had three children named William, obviously the first two had > died. Does anyone find, as I do, that these children who are given a > deceased siblings name, often die themselves? Just recently I came across a > Margaret, three times a child was christened that, and three times the baby > died. This doesn't seem to be an isolated incident either. I'd be interested > in what other listers think. > Regards, > Pauline in OZ > > > >From: "Peter Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> > >Reply-To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com > >To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [BDF] KIGHTLEY family of Houghton Conquest > >Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 16:49:03 +1100 > > > >Donna, > > > > I don't have any links to this family. But your's was the only > >message received today, so I had the luxury of some time to have a close > >look. Lucky for you. > > > > I've been advising people for years to click on batch numbers on > >IGI records. It's amazing what you find. > > > > I found the 1694 record for Elizabeth, clicked on the batch number > >and searched for KIGHTLEY. Only the one record came back up. I suspected > >possible surname variants. It would be unusual for just one child. > > > > Not to be outdone, I searched the batch again, this time using just > >father's given name Francis. Et Voila !!. Elizabeth and seven brothers and > >sisters all with different surname spellings. Only one included a mother's > >name Elizabeth. Primed with success I went and found the marriage. > > > > Francis Kitely married Elizabeth Cliffton on 3rd May 1677 in > >Houghton Conquest. Elizabeth was the youngest of eight children. The name > >William was used three times suggesting the earlier two had died. The > >children were :- Francis 1678, William (I) 1680, John 1682, Joseph 1685, > >William (II) 1687, William (III) 1689, James 1691 and Elizabeth 1694. > > > > I also clicked on the batch number for the marriage record. It > >indicated that Elizabeth Cliffton had a brother John who married Ann > >Slingsby. > > > > Your back in the "dark ages" when it comes to finding birth records > >for Francis and Elizabeth. I found nothing for Francis, but there was an > >Elizabeth Clifton b1849 at Houghton Conquest. It makes her 28 at marriage > >which might be a bit old for the era. And there are lots of Elizabeth's in > >other counties. > > > > That will give you something to do for a couple of days. Hope you > >can follow the logic. get back to me if you have problems. > > > > Good luck > > > > Peter in Sydney > > > >PS!! Some of the variant spellings were Kitely, Kightly, Kitly, Citly, > >Keightley and Kitghtley. > > > > > >==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > >The Bedfordshire Surnames List can be viewed at: > >http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > realestate.com.au: the biggest address in property > http://ninemsn.realestate.com.au > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com >