Darn Richard! I looked at that one for ages and didn't think of the Naden/Nathan possible connection! I was too preoccupied trying to find the Harris link! Lyn, if you apply for this cert, state that the mother's given name should be Ellen. Harris might be a clue to the father although he might be difficult to track between Bedford and Stepney! Well done Richard! Lyn will be kept busy for a while now methinks! Cheers Marlene Richard Sims wrote: > This may be a total red herring, and no connection whatsoever, but it > occurred to me that firstly the surname of NADEN has obviously been > mispronounced and attained assorted spellings, and secondly that the > Christian name Madeline (or its other variant) was not that abundant. > > So I fed just the name Madeline into the freeBMD and went through the > various quarters from 1854 to 1856 looking for a surname that might sound > like NADEN: > > Madeline Harris NATHAN Sep 1855 Stepney 1c 456 > > > I suggest you don't try this with an Elizabeth or Mary! > > Regards > > Richard > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Peter Booth > Sent: 26 June 2008 11:19 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BDF] Ellen NADEN dau of Noah NADEN > > Lyn / Marlene, > > Hold the phone !!!!! > > Lewis Jordan is still alive in 1861 census !!!! He has moved to > Linslade in Buckinghamshire and is shown as unmarried. > > He is the same Lewis Jordan Coal Dealer born circa 1821 at Cople that 10 > > years earlier in 1851 is married with wife Ellen and daughter Julia. > > Is it possible that Madeline was illegitimate and Ellen had to have a > seven year period of separation before she was permitted to remarry. Either > that or she was forbidden to marry until after he died ( 'til death us do > part ). > > So who was the father of Madeline? 1871 census says she was born in > Bedford Town. 1861 says she was born in London. Did Ellen run off to London > to hide an unexpected pregnancy? > > There are so many unresolved questions. Hopefully the 1862 Marriage > Certificate will show if Ellen was single, divorced or widowed. But we still > > won't know the father of Madeline or when and where Lewis Jordan died. > > Perhaps it is worth looking on A2A to see if there was any petition for > divorce or bastardy bond. > > Peter > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >