How do you know that Mary Elliott, who married John Wrench, was daughter of John & Jemima ? Their 2nd child Lydia Ellet seems to have been christened in Colmworth in 1832 while you say she's born 1817. & how/when did they get over to Eaton Socon area. OK they were there in 1841 & there is a burial of Jemima Elliot in ES in 1856 on at age 76 The Mary Elliot I have was born 1809/1810 & christened at ES on 3/3/1811 to parents William & Mary Ellet Regards John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Peasnell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:38 AM Subject: Re: [BDF] Elliott Family - Bushmead/Duloe/Eaton Socon > Hello John, > > I am so very sorry it has taken me so long to reply. Thank you for this > information, which I didn't know. Two of Mary and John Wrench's children, > Thomas born in 1838 and Jacob born in 1846 came out to Australia. Thomas > married Mary CASE in Maryborough Qld in 1867. Mary was the daughter of > Robert CASE and his first wife Mary WARREN from Axminster. Robert's > second > wife was Ann ELLIOTT from Bushmead and Mary ELLIOTT's sister. Joseph > married Isabella DAVIDSON in 1873 also in Maryborough. Isabella came from > Lanarkshire. > > If you have additional information on the family I would be most grateful. > > Thanks again > > Kind regards > > Jan Peasnell > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:10 AM, john partridge < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello Jan >> >> Mary Wrench baptised 19/05/1839 Gt Staughton was 1st child of John Wrench >> & >> Mary Elliott; & she married Joseph Partridge b 1838 Eaton Socon. >> >> Joseph Partridge was grandson to Jonathan Partridge b 1789 Bletsoe, Beds >> & >> is the older brother to my gt-gt-grandfather >> >> John & Mary Wrench had 8 other children between 1836 & 1850. >> >> If you want more info let me know >> >> Regards >> >> John Partridge >> Bedford >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Janice Peasnell" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:40 AM >> Subject: [BDF] Elliott Family - Bushmead/Duloe/Eaton Socon >> >> >> > Hello Listers, >> > >> > I am researching the family of John and Jane (Jemima) ELLIOTT who were >> > living in Duloe with their son David in the 1841/1851 Census. Their >> > children were (1) Mary, born 1810 in Bushmead married John WRENCH. (2) >> > Ann >> > ELLIOTT bn abt 1818 Bushmead - Married Robert CASE in 1853 and migrated >> to >> > Australia with him and his young family in 1854. (3) Lydia ELLIOTT bn >> > 1817 >> > Bushmead married John CHEETHAM, they lived for some time in Eaton Socon >> > until John died and Lydia moved to Derby with daughter Ann. (4) David >> > ELLIOTT bn 1824 Bushmead married Hannah PERKINS in 1849. (5) James >> > ELLIOTT >> > bn Eaton Socon who married Rebecca JAMES in 1841. (6) Sarah ELLIOTT bn >> > Eaton >> > Socon married John RUFF in 1839. Hannah ELLIOTT bn Eaton Socon married >> > William CROW in 1841. >> > >> > I am particularly interested in identifying Jane/Jemima ELLIOTT who was >> > born >> > in Colmworth in abt 1871. John ELLIOTT came from Rusden >> Northhamptonshire >> > in abt 1779. >> > >> > I am the G/G/Granddaughter of Ann Elliott and would be very happy to >> share >> > my Australian research on the family of Robert and Ann CASE. >> > >> > Thank you for your assistance. >> > >> > Kind regards >> > >> > Jan Peasnell/Melbourne/Oz >> > >> > >> > >> > The List Guidelines >> > >> > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ >> > >> > The Bedfordshire Surnames List >> > >> > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1590 - Release Date: >> > 8/4/2008 >> > 8:09 AM >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ >> >> The Bedfordshire Surnames List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.1/1605 - Release Date: 8/11/2008 > 4:59 PM > > >

Hello John, The information involving this family is complicated to say the least. The villages of Eaton Socon, Bushmead, Duloe and even St Neots gets thrown into the mix pretty regularly. I was contacted about 30 years ago by a member of the WRENCH family who had done a considerable amount of research on their family and they believed that Mary WRENCH and Ann CASE were sisters. I have found that both Mary and Ann ELLIOTT (my G/G.Grandmother) are recorded as being born in Bushmead - Mary's marrriage info on IGI and the 1881 Census, and Ann in the 1851 Census and her shipping records). In 1865 two sons of Mary and John WRENCH travelled to Maryborough in Queensland, they were Thomas and Jacob. Thomas married Mary CASE the daughter of Ann's husband Robert CASE and his first wife Mary WARREN and was known to be the nephew of Ann from Eaton Socon. Ann's shipping records show her parents as John and Jemima ELLIOTT. In both the 1841 and 1851 Census John and Jane (Jemima) ELLIOTT are living with son David in Duloe/Eaton Socon. I have written off for the Death certificate of Jemima ELLIOTT to see if there are any clues there that will tie this Jemima with Jane as the wife of John. I have started looking at the Marriage Witnesses to all of the children who were born to John ELLIOTT in Duloe and have found that almost all have family members as witnesses. For example When Lydia ELLIOTT and John CHEETHAM were married Ann Elliott and David Elliott were the witness. When Ann married Robert CASE, Lydia and John CHEETHAM were witnesses. When David ELLIOTT married Hannah PERKINS, Lydia and John CHEETHAM were witnesses. Regarding the Christening information - some children were christened in Bulk so it is quite possible that the Lydia you are looking at was Christened several years after her birth. I go by the ages given over multiple Census periods as a guide and certainly not the 1841 Census which was rounded down or up to the nearest 5. (Not in all cases but in quite a few). Re your question regarding their moving to Eaton Socon - All of the children of John and Jane/Jemima ELLIOTT were recorded as either being born in Bushmead or Duloe and both places are within walking distance of Eaton Socon and most of the Census papers mention Eaton Socon so it would depend on the document at the time and the person taking down the information. Most of the family look as if they could not write as they have a 'X' on the witness form of the wedding information. I do not know who put the information into IGI regarding the Mary ELLIOTT Christened in 1811 with parents William and Mary ELLET. It may be that Mary ELLET could be the sister of Jemima ELLIOTT as 'Lydia' appears in both families. Do you have access to the Christening documentation - if so do they have particulars regarding God Parents? Ann ELLIOTT who had four children after coming to Australia in 1856 named her children - Jemima, Lydia, Susanna and Hannah - after Mother and sisters. I hope this helps Kind regards Jan Peasnell On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:39 PM, john partridge < [email protected]> wrote: > How do you know that Mary Elliott, who married John Wrench, was daughter of > John & Jemima ? > > Their 2nd child Lydia Ellet seems to have been christened in Colmworth in > 1832 while you say she's born 1817. > > & how/when did they get over to Eaton Socon area. OK they were there in > 1841 > & there is a burial of Jemima Elliot in ES in 1856 on at age 76 > > The Mary Elliot I have was born 1809/1810 & christened at ES on 3/3/1811 to > parents William & Mary Ellet > > Regards John > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janice Peasnell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:38 AM > Subject: Re: [BDF] Elliott Family - Bushmead/Duloe/Eaton Socon > > > > Hello John, > > > > I am so very sorry it has taken me so long to reply. Thank you for this > > information, which I didn't know. Two of Mary and John Wrench's > children, > > Thomas born in 1838 and Jacob born in 1846 came out to Australia. Thomas > > married Mary CASE in Maryborough Qld in 1867. Mary was the daughter of > > Robert CASE and his first wife Mary WARREN from Axminster. Robert's > > second > > wife was Ann ELLIOTT from Bushmead and Mary ELLIOTT's sister. Joseph > > married Isabella DAVIDSON in 1873 also in Maryborough. Isabella came > from > > Lanarkshire. > > > > If you have additional information on the family I would be most > grateful. > > > > Thanks again > > > > Kind regards > > > > Jan Peasnell > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:10 AM, john partridge < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Hello Jan > >> > >> Mary Wrench baptised 19/05/1839 Gt Staughton was 1st child of John > Wrench > >> & > >> Mary Elliott; & she married Joseph Partridge b 1838 Eaton Socon. > >> > >> Joseph Partridge was grandson to Jonathan Partridge b 1789 Bletsoe, Beds > >> & > >> is the older brother to my gt-gt-grandfather > >> > >> John & Mary Wrench had 8 other children between 1836 & 1850. > >> > >> If you want more info let me know > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> John Partridge > >> Bedford > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Janice Peasnell" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:40 AM > >> Subject: [BDF] Elliott Family - Bushmead/Duloe/Eaton Socon > >> > >> > >> > Hello Listers, > >> > > >> > I am researching the family of John and Jane (Jemima) ELLIOTT who > were > >> > living in Duloe with their son David in the 1841/1851 Census. Their > >> > children were (1) Mary, born 1810 in Bushmead married John WRENCH. > (2) > >> > Ann > >> > ELLIOTT bn abt 1818 Bushmead - Married Robert CASE in 1853 and > migrated > >> to > >> > Australia with him and his young family in 1854. (3) Lydia ELLIOTT bn > >> > 1817 > >> > Bushmead married John CHEETHAM, they lived for some time in Eaton > Socon > >> > until John died and Lydia moved to Derby with daughter Ann. (4) David > >> > ELLIOTT bn 1824 Bushmead married Hannah PERKINS in 1849. (5) James > >> > ELLIOTT > >> > bn Eaton Socon who married Rebecca JAMES in 1841. (6) Sarah ELLIOTT bn > >> > Eaton > >> > Socon married John RUFF in 1839. Hannah ELLIOTT bn Eaton Socon > married > >> > William CROW in 1841. > >> > > >> > I am particularly interested in identifying Jane/Jemima ELLIOTT who > was > >> > born > >> > in Colmworth in abt 1871. John ELLIOTT came from Rusden > >> Northhamptonshire > >> > in abt 1779. > >> > > >> > I am the G/G/Granddaughter of Ann Elliott and would be very happy to > >> share > >> > my Australian research on the family of Robert and Ann CASE. > >> > > >> > Thank you for your assistance. > >> > > >> > Kind regards > >> > > >> > Jan Peasnell/Melbourne/Oz > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > The List Guidelines > >> > > >> > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > >> > > >> > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > >> > > >> > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > <http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. > >> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > >> > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1590 - Release Date: > >> > 8/4/2008 > >> > 8:09 AM > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> The List Guidelines > >> > >> http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > >> > >> The Bedfordshire Surnames List > >> > >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > <http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.1/1605 - Release Date: 8/11/2008 > > 4:59 PM > > > > > > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >