Kia Ora Keith Probably my luck as well! Marlene Keith Darnell wrote: > Hi Eve I have a marriage Cert in my hand where the fathers of both parties > are not entered and I got the Cert because I wanted to find out who the mans > father was regards Keith > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:32 PM > Subject: Re: [BDF] COOPER Mystery... > > > >> On 16 Apr 2008 at 1:01, [email protected] wrote: >> >> >>> > I wonder if anyone can check whether this scenario is >>> correct for me >>> >>>> please? I have: Mary COOPER baptised 1829 Riseley marrying Thomas >>>> SMITH on 29 July 1850 Riseley (IGI). Sept Q 1850 6/59 Father John >>>> Cooper. A witness at the wedding was Phoebe Cooper ( Mary's sister) >>>> I think: Mary SMITH died Sept Q 1850. (Free BMD) Probably buried >>>> Riseley. I think Thomas SMITH might then have married Phoebe COOPER >>>> (Mary's sister) June Q 1851.Bedford 6/85 (Free BMD) I think: Phoebe >>>> SMITH also died June Q 1856 3b/197.Bedford >>>> >>> Legally, Thomas who married Mary could not have >>> married her sister then. True, this sometimes happened, >>> but mostly the couple would have to go well away from >>> where they were known. >>> Thomas Smith is such a common name that this is >>> >> (unfinished at the time) quite probably a marriage of an entirely >> different man, not even necessarily related. >> I think someone found you the likely death of Mary in late 1850, so a >> remarriage in the same place in the next year looks more like your >> ancestral man. >> Of course, the actual marriage entry would settle the question - the >> father of Thomas Smith in each case will be shown >> >>>> The problem with this scenario is that a Thomas SMITH married Agnes >>>> Peasnall at Riseley in June Q 1851 >>>> >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1379 - Release Date: 4/15/2008 >> 6:10 PM >> >> >> > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

> Keith Darnell wrote: > > Hi Eve I have a marriage Cert in my hand where the fathers of both > > parties are not entered and I got the Cert because I wanted to find > > out who the mans father was regards There is always one! Although it could happen that both were illegitimate, the chances are that the local vicar just had a rooted objection to entering more information than he had before 1837. You do find these difficult chaps from time to time - have to wait till they die before the entries are properly made in the parish.