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    1. [BDF] COOPER Mystery...
    2. Marlene Shipman
    3. Kia Ora I wonder if anyone can check whether this scenario is correct for me please? I have: Mary COOPER baptised 1829 Riseley marrying Thomas SMITH on 29 July 1850 Riseley (IGI). Sept Q 1850 6/59 Father John Cooper. A witness at the wedding was Phoebe Cooper ( Mary's sister) I think: Mary SMITH died Sept Q 1850. (Free BMD) Probably buried Riseley. I think Thomas SMITH might then have married Phoebe COOPER (Mary's sister) June Q 1851.Bedford 6/85 (Free BMD) I think: Phoebe SMITH also died June Q 1856 3b/197.Bedford The problem with this scenario is that a Thomas SMITH married Agnes Peasnall at Riseley in June Q 1851!!!!!!!!!! I cannot find a marriage/death for Phoebe nor can I find her in 1861. Can anyone help please? I'm going cross eyed! Parhaps fresh eyes and fresh perspective might help! Marlene I cannot identify either Mary or Phoebe in 1861 and this scenario would settle both!

    04/09/2008 05:44:05
    1. Re: [BDF] COOPER Mystery...
    2. Peter Booth
    3. Marlene, You've been looking at FreeBMD. Try also looking at Riseley batches on IGI. And of course there could be other Thomas Smith marriages elsewhere. But for 1850 marriage to Mary Cooper, Thomas' father is given as William Smith. Strangely, the marriage to Phoebe Cooper is not on IGI, but on FreeBMD The Thomas who married Agnes Peasnell in 1851 has father's name John Smith. There is also a 1859 marriage at Riseley to Ester Warwick. Thomas's age is 32 and father is William. Is this a 3rd marriage after the deaths of Mary and Phoebe. Peter PS!! There is also a 1863 marriage at Eaton Socon between Thomas Smith and Mary Cooper. You need to make doubly sure you get the right family.

    04/09/2008 04:09:03
    1. Re: [BDF] COOPER Mystery...
    2. bev bonning
    3. If you think the freebmd entry refers to your Thomas Smith, then you will need to purchase that certificate to find place of marriage. For whatever reason the marriage may have taken place in the Registrar's office. Bev > I cannot find a marriage/death for Phoebe nor can I find her in 1861. > > Can anyone help please? I'm going cross eyed! Parhaps fresh eyes and > fresh perspective might help! > Marlene

    04/10/2008 01:58:57
    1. Re: [BDF] COOPER Mystery...
    2. bev bonning
    3. If you think the freebmd entry refers to your Thomas Smith, then you will need to purchase that certificate to find place of marriage. For whatever reason the marriage may have taken place in the Registrar's office. Bev > I cannot find a marriage/death for Phoebe nor can I find her in 1861. > > Can anyone help please? I'm going cross eyed! Parhaps fresh eyes and > fresh perspective might help! > Marlene

    04/10/2008 01:58:57
    1. Re: [BDF] COOPER Mystery...
    2. bev bonning
    3. If you think the freebmd entry refers to your Thomas Smith, then you will need to purchase that certificate to find place of marriage. For whatever reason the marriage may have taken place in the Registrar's office. Bev > I cannot find a marriage/death for Phoebe nor can I find her in 1861. > > Can anyone help please? I'm going cross eyed! Parhaps fresh eyes and > fresh perspective might help! > Marlene

    04/10/2008 01:58:57
    1. Re: [BDF] COOPER Mystery...
    2. > I wonder if anyone can check whether this scenario is correct for me > please? I have: Mary COOPER baptised 1829 Riseley marrying Thomas > SMITH on 29 July 1850 Riseley (IGI). Sept Q 1850 6/59 Father John > Cooper. A witness at the wedding was Phoebe Cooper ( Mary's sister) I > think: Mary SMITH died Sept Q 1850. (Free BMD) Probably buried > Riseley. I think Thomas SMITH might then have married Phoebe COOPER > (Mary's sister) June Q 1851.Bedford 6/85 (Free BMD) I think: Phoebe > SMITH also died June Q 1856 3b/197.Bedford Legally, Thomas who married Mary could not have married her sister then. True, this sometimes happened, but mostly the couple would have to go well away from where they were known. Thomas Smith is such a common name that this is > > The problem with this scenario is that a Thomas SMITH married Agnes > Peasnall at Riseley in June Q 1851!!!!!!!!!! I cannot find a > marriage/death for Phoebe nor can I find her in 1861. > > Can anyone help please? I'm going cross eyed! Parhaps fresh eyes and > fresh perspective might help! Marlene > > > > I cannot identify either Mary or Phoebe in 1861 and this scenario > would settle both! > > > > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1187 - Release Date: > 16/12/2007 11:36 >

    04/15/2008 07:01:27