Hi, I think one of the problems with searching in Bedfordshire is that all the IGI entries with abbreviated first names have been acquired from the Transcript printed books published by someone in early 1900's, and these books have also been published on microfiche which are available to buy from the Beds Family History Society or the books can be obtained via Inter Library Loan. These transcripts are good, but not perfect. It is quite difficult to see the original parish registers as one is usually directed to the transcripts. Twice I've not been happy with an entry in the IGI/transcripts and have written to the Beds Record Office and asked for a photocopy of the original. On one occasion I still couldn't read the marriage entry and a friend managed to get a second copy which I could read and was quite different from the transcript, i.e. the transcript had said permission to marry was given by parents and guardians, whereas the original gave the name of the guardian which happened to be who I was fairly sure was the girl's step-father, and in my mind thus confirmed that she had been illegitimate and her mother had later married. From Merryl Wells of Bedfordshire. E-Mail: merryl.wells@one-name.org GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst Mem. of Wells Assn. (GOONS Reg.). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gus Tysoe" <gustysoe@tiscali.co.uk> To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] MEDCRAFT LOOK UP PLEASE > Thanks John, > > I live "too far away" to be able to do any sort of swift lookup - I'd have > to order the film through the LDS, and by the time it arrived the subject > would be long dead... > > The chances seem reasonably high that you'll find Ann's marriage - but not > her baptism/birth. > > Gus > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Partridge" <john.partridge10@ntlworld.com> > To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:07 PM > Subject: Re: [BDF] MEDCRAFT LOOK UP PLEASE > > >> Has anybody yet checked the Chalgrave PR to see if the Robert Savage >> marriage of 1788 actually exists - or are you just relying on the IGI >> telling us what it has. In my experience some member submission entries >> are >> in fact true. I will take a look tomorrow at Bedford library. >> >> Based on a previous posting in 2006 by the same Ruth perhaps >> >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BEDFORD/2006-09/1159538037 >> >> - a chap named Bob has/had the PRs so I would expect the marriage to be >> there - but the baptism not. >> >> cheers John >> >> c >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gus Tysoe" <gustysoe@tiscali.co.uk> >> To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:21 PM >> Subject: Re: [BDF] MEDCRAFT LOOK UP PLEASE >> >> >>> What might add a little further mystery is that the baptism of a Robert >>> SAVAGE, son of Robert and Ann, on 9 Jun 1789 at Sundon is shown as an >>> Extracted Entry... >>> >>> Ann MEDCALF (so far only reportedly) married on 2 Jan 1788 Robert SAVAGE >>> Junior, consistently reported as being "of Sundon". His birth date is >>> quoted >>> as being 26 Aug 1765 [thus making him exactly 173 years older than me, >>> but >>> with the difference that I have a birth certificate to prove it!] There >>> is >>> no entry for his birth/baptism in Sundon's extractions, although what >>> would >>> seem to be his father's *is*. >>> >>> >>> But before getting *too* carried-away, it may be worthwhile to think >>> quietly >>> about the IGI as a whole. From a FamHister's point of view it certainly >>> has >>> Warts, and even Glaring Flaws [the absence of deaths/burials and >>> incompleteness] but then just what can you find anywhere that's Perfect? >>> Furthermore, it is made *freely* available to all us 'non-believers' >>> when >>> there's no outward and visible reason why it should so be - other, >>> perhaps, >>> than that some of us *might* add to it. >>> >>> Flaws accepted, there's nothing else that begins to approach its >>> coverage >>> and ease of searching. But when all's said and done, it can be no more >>> than >>> a Finding Tool - and having 'found' something in it the entry *still* >>> needs >>> to be confirmed by direct examination of the original entry, which may >>> well >>> contain additional information that doesn't fit the straight-jacket of >>> the >>> indexing system. >>> >>> Be grateful for it - Use it - and CHECK THE ENTRIES [*especially* the >>> burials!] against the Registers.... >>> >>> Gus >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> The List Guidelines >>> >>> http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> The Bedfordshire Surnames List >>> >>> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.150/2632 - Release Date: >> 01/19/10 >> 07:34:00 >> >> >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ >> >> The Bedfordshire Surnames List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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