Perhaps I'm too impatient. I didn't see any response to my discovery of this family. So I followed my suggestions just to see if the information was good. As I said, batches for Heath and Reach show five children of William Morgan and Ann Atwell were all christened on the same day. Another two were christened the following year. From later census data children were Thomas c1821, Sarah c1824, Mary c1825, Francis c1828, Anthony c1830, William c1834 and Elizabeth c 1832. A later sister Ruth was born c1842 I suggested Thomas would still be with parents in 1841 census as he did not marry until December Qtr. Unfortunately this was not the case as he was working elsewhere. But in 1851, Mary, Anthony and William are living with their brother Thomas and his wife Sarah and children. Anthony is the key. In 1841, he is found with parents William and Ann and all the other children, except Thomas and Francis who sadly died in Dec qtr 1838. In 1851, you get a bonus. William & Ann and children Sarah, Elizabeth & Ruth are living with Ann's widowed mother Sarah Atwell aged 80 born Soulsbury, Bucks. William birthplace is given as Stewkley, Bucks but on Google it now comes up as part of Leighton Buzzard. In 1841, he's shown as born in Bedfordshire. Ann's birthplace is given as Heath and Reach. People should appreciate that this reply and the associated research has taken nearly 90 minutes. I can get paid up to $50 an hour doing my professional research. So please follow up on suggestions. Either that or attend a course or pay a professional. Peter in Sydney

Hi Give the poor man a chance to read his emails, inwardly digest the info & find the time to look! As far as I am concerned these forums are for helping people with problems that they are stuck on. Okay some may want something for nothing but as that cannot be distinguished by an email then who are we to judge. We don't know peoples circumstances. I give all info freely and only expect a thank you in return. As for the poor lady who dared to re ask a question perhaps all she was fishing for was researchers with similiar interests, she wasn't asking for any specifics. We have all done that in one form or another. Lastly what is this obsession with money! If your time is that valuable then don't answer the queries! Recent answers on this forum have been very off putting for people who may want to post a query but are wary of the dressing down for doing so. Kind Regards Norina > From: pbo08596@bigpond.net.au > To: bedford@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:48:11 +1100 > Subject: [BDF] THOMAS MORGAN & SARAH HALE - c1840 Heath & Reach > > > Perhaps I'm too impatient. I didn't see any response to my discovery of > this family. So I followed my suggestions just to see if the information was > good. > > As I said, batches for Heath and Reach show five children of William > Morgan and Ann Atwell were all christened on the same day. Another two were > christened the following year. From later census data children were Thomas > c1821, Sarah c1824, Mary c1825, Francis c1828, Anthony c1830, William > c1834 and Elizabeth c 1832. A later sister Ruth was born c1842 > > I suggested Thomas would still be with parents in 1841 census as he did > not marry until December Qtr. Unfortunately this was not the case as he was > working elsewhere. But in 1851, Mary, Anthony and William are living with > their brother Thomas and his wife Sarah and children. > > Anthony is the key. In 1841, he is found with parents William and Ann > and all the other children, except Thomas and Francis who sadly died in Dec > qtr 1838. > > In 1851, you get a bonus. William & Ann and children Sarah, Elizabeth & > Ruth are living with Ann's widowed mother Sarah Atwell aged 80 born > Soulsbury, Bucks. > > William birthplace is given as Stewkley, Bucks but on Google it now > comes up as part of Leighton Buzzard. In 1841, he's shown as born in > Bedfordshire. Ann's birthplace is given as Heath and Reach. > > People should appreciate that this reply and the associated research has > taken nearly 90 minutes. I can get paid up to $50 an hour doing my > professional research. > > So please follow up on suggestions. > > Either that or attend a course or pay a professional. > > Peter in Sydney > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Tell us your greatest, weirdest and funniest Hotmail stories http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/

Norina, It's not about money, it's about required effort. I've answered 982 postings on this forum alone. You're at 28. I can't be accused at lack of effort. And I replied within a hour of the post. I'm the only one to have done so. And while I'm not criticising, he's had 24 hours to at least acknowledge my efforts. As for the other lady, I put in a similar effort on my initial response to her in June last year and it wasn't followed up. My point is that there is a cost in resources and subscriptions and a large amount of effort required to look up readily available data on basic sites like Family Search, FreeBMD and Census records. It's extremely frustrating when people are unwilling or incapable of extracting data that's staring them in the face. My purpose in mentioning money is simply to illustrate that each answer is equivalent to $20-$50 from a professional researcher. On that basis, I've provided over $25,000 worth of effort to help people on this list. And that's just one list. Peter

Hi It is sometimes difficult given the worldwide timeframes we are workimg in, folk working, and family responsibilities etc. I care for a disabled person nad it is sometimes 48 Hours or more before I can reply.Even though I may have read the message.it's impossible to reply immediately and make sense of any suggestions. Especially as I no longer have access to Censii and would have to get a Caregiver in order to check at the Library. My circumstances are only one of a dozen possible scenarios. I agree with Norina & Bev - surely we want to help with whatever level of experience or resources we have available? Freely? OR not answer? Marlene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norina Pauling" <norina@hotmail.com> To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] THOMAS MORGAN & SARAH HALE - c1840 Heath & Reach > > Hi > > > > Give the poor man a chance to read his emails, inwardly digest the info & > find the time to look! As far as I am concerned these forums are for > helping people with problems that they are stuck on. Okay some may want > something for nothing but as that cannot be distinguished by an email then > who are we to judge. We don't know peoples circumstances. I give all info > freely and only expect a thank you in return. As for the poor lady who > dared to re ask a question perhaps all she was fishing for was researchers > with similiar interests, she wasn't asking for any specifics. We have all > done that in one form or another. Lastly what is this obsession with > money! If your time is that valuable then don't answer the queries! Recent > answers on this forum have been very off putting for people who may want > to post a query but are wary of the dressing down for doing so. > > > > Kind Regards > > Norina > > > > > >> From: pbo08596@bigpond.net.au >> To: bedford@rootsweb.com >> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:48:11 +1100 >> Subject: [BDF] THOMAS MORGAN & SARAH HALE - c1840 Heath & Reach >> >> >> Perhaps I'm too impatient. I didn't see any response to my discovery of >> this family. So I followed my suggestions just to see if the information >> was >> good. >> >> As I said, batches for Heath and Reach show five children of William >> Morgan and Ann Atwell were all christened on the same day. Another two >> were >> christened the following year. From later census data children were >> Thomas >> c1821, Sarah c1824, Mary c1825, Francis c1828, Anthony c1830, William >> c1834 and Elizabeth c 1832. A later sister Ruth was born c1842 >> >> I suggested Thomas would still be with parents in 1841 census as he did >> not marry until December Qtr. Unfortunately this was not the case as he >> was >> working elsewhere. But in 1851, Mary, Anthony and William are living with >> their brother Thomas and his wife Sarah and children. >> >> Anthony is the key. In 1841, he is found with parents William and Ann >> and all the other children, except Thomas and Francis who sadly died in >> Dec >> qtr 1838. >> >> In 1851, you get a bonus. William & Ann and children Sarah, Elizabeth & >> Ruth are living with Ann's widowed mother Sarah Atwell aged 80 born >> Soulsbury, Bucks. >> >> William birthplace is given as Stewkley, Bucks but on Google it now >> comes up as part of Leighton Buzzard. In 1841, he's shown as born in >> Bedfordshire. Ann's birthplace is given as Heath and Reach. >> >> People should appreciate that this reply and the associated research has >> taken nearly 90 minutes. I can get paid up to $50 an hour doing my >> professional research. >> >> So please follow up on suggestions. >> >> Either that or attend a course or pay a professional. >> >> Peter in Sydney >> >> >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ >> >> The Bedfordshire Surnames List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tell us your greatest, weirdest and funniest Hotmail stories > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message