Hi Liz, You posed a not-too-dissimilar enquiry back in June last year, which produced a reply that started: > > Let me say you need to be absolutely specific with your data, giving > name, data and location for each event. > That reply also included: > > The marriage of Edgar Charles Denyer to Florence Eustace was registered > in June qtr 1903 at Nottingham. > > Lydia's birth was registered in Sept qtr 1905 at Nottingham. Her > marriage to Cecil C Cox was registered in Mar qtr 1928 at Bedford. > > All the above information was available, but you didn't give it > It would seem that you have not paid attention - or are hoping that yet another lister will do your work for you. There may be one, but it won't be me. Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz White" <lbw59@hotmail.com> To: <bedford-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 6:59 PM Subject: [BDF] Denyer and Cox surnames > > Hi > > I am tracing an elusive family. The Denyer family were located around > Nottingham but the eldest son > > Edgar Charles moved to Bedfordshire sometime after the 1901 census and > maybe even after the 1911 census. He died in 1960 in Bedford. His wife was > Florence Denyer and he had at least one child named Lydia. I believe that > Lydia married Cyril Cox in the 1920 and may have had a son called David in > 1939. There may have been other Denyer children of Edgar. Any help > appreciated with this family. Hopefully I m not the only family historian > out there as there are no male Denyers carrying this name down generation. > > Liz > > _________________________________________________________________ > Got a cool Hotmail story? Tell us now > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I find the best way to investigate a street address is to do an Advanced Search on Google, which usually brings up houses for sale with pictures and descriptions of the houses plus their numbers, or you can also include the house number in the search. Usually get a map as well so you can see what is nearby. From Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. E-Mail: merryl.wells@one-name.org GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst Mem. of Wells Assn. (GOONS Reg.). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eunice Cubbage" <eunice@cubbage.plus.com> To: <BEDFORD@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:17 PM Subject: [BDF] Fulford/Bower Street/Howard Street > Hi > > I have joined the Bedford list in the hope of getting some help from > someone with local knowledge - my grandfather, William John FULFORD, was > living at 39, Howard Street at the time of the 1891 census, and my Dad > was born at 116 Bower Street in 1917. > > I was thinking I would like to visit Bedford to have a look at these 2 > streets to see where my Fulford ancestors lived. > > Can anyone tell me if there are old houses in either of these streets, > or have they been redeveloped ? If anyone has any photos of Howard > Street or Bower Street I'd love to see them. > > Thanks for reading > > Eunice > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2691 - Release Date: 02/16/10 07:35:00

Hi there, Bower street is still the original houses, but Howard st. has been developed alot, though there are 2/3 original ones left, but mainly the older larger houses. I lived in Howbury st. which is next to Bower st. from birth to the age of 4 and they were largish semi-detached houses with a large scullery/kitchen, and 2 living rooms on the ground floor, and 4 bedrooms plus bathroom/toilet on 1st floor. There was also an outside toilet and coal house. The gardens were very small and of course no garage as built around well before cars were in general use. I'm not sure of the date they were built though. Carol Rudram Researching Edwards and Webb in Bedfordshire. > Eunice, > > Looking at them on Google Maps - Howard Street does not appear to have > many houses on it at all. half of one side appears to be an Office > Block. > > Bower Street looks a bit more promising, but difficult to judge age of > terraced houses from aerial photographs. > > Unfortunately Google Maps has not got any photos of these streets, its > always worth checking - also they have not yet done their Street View > yet - again I would say to anybody reading this if you are looking > for pictures of a street Google Maps is worth looking at, especially > for the larger towns - because if they have done a street view its > almost like being there. > > Regards > > Kevin (England) > > >> Can anyone tell me if there are old houses in either of these streets, >> or have they been redeveloped ? If anyone has any photos of Howard >> Street or Bower Street I'd love to see them. >> >> > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Eunice, Looking at them on Google Maps - Howard Street does not appear to have many houses on it at all. half of one side appears to be an Office Block. Bower Street looks a bit more promising, but difficult to judge age of terraced houses from aerial photographs. Unfortunately Google Maps has not got any photos of these streets, its always worth checking - also they have not yet done their Street View yet - again I would say to anybody reading this if you are looking for pictures of a street Google Maps is worth looking at, especially for the larger towns - because if they have done a street view its almost like being there. Regards Kevin (England) > Can anyone tell me if there are old houses in either of these streets, > or have they been redeveloped ? If anyone has any photos of Howard > Street or Bower Street I'd love to see them. >

Hi I have joined the Bedford list in the hope of getting some help from someone with local knowledge - my grandfather, William John FULFORD, was living at 39, Howard Street at the time of the 1891 census, and my Dad was born at 116 Bower Street in 1917. I was thinking I would like to visit Bedford to have a look at these 2 streets to see where my Fulford ancestors lived. Can anyone tell me if there are old houses in either of these streets, or have they been redeveloped ? If anyone has any photos of Howard Street or Bower Street I'd love to see them. Thanks for reading Eunice

Hi I am tracing an elusive family. The Denyer family were located around Nottingham but the eldest son Edgar Charles moved to Bedfordshire sometime after the 1901 census and maybe even after the 1911 census. He died in 1960 in Bedford. His wife was Florence Denyer and he had at least one child named Lydia. I believe that Lydia married Cyril Cox in the 1920 and may have had a son called David in 1939. There may have been other Denyer children of Edgar. Any help appreciated with this family. Hopefully I m not the only family historian out there as there are no male Denyers carrying this name down generation. Liz _________________________________________________________________ Got a cool Hotmail story? Tell us now http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/

Ralph, I think the 1798 Luton marriage to Mary Matthews looks a good fit. They have a "fling in the Spring" early 1798, she gets pregnant, they duck over to Luton to get married in April and their first child Ann arrives late August and is christened in early September at Shillington. The Luton marriage shows as an extracted record, so I'd imagine LDS has access to original images. While they may not have it on hand at your local LDS centre, they should be able to order it in for you. I stand to be corrected. I can see lots of Harris christenings on Shillington batches, so assume he was from there. A John b1775 to John & Grace looks a likely candidate. But there are no Matthews families, so she looks to be from another parish which again supports the Luton theory. Looking for Mary Matthews c1770-1790 there are 24 possibilities on IGI in Bedfordshire. Assuming she was not from another county, a close look at those 24 would whittle them down to three or four after eliminating duplicate and those too young to marry in 1798. Includes in the 24 are some user submissions that show spouses. They to will be eliminated. I believe you are correct with Mary Simons not Lemons. I've never seen a transcription error in an extracted record before. It obviously happens. I'm not sure if LDS have a system for correction. While there are no Mary Lemons records in Bedfordshire, there is a number of possibilities for Mary Simons. The most likely is born right in Shillington in 1807 to Leonard & Mary. You should be able to confirm this as correct from either Shillington PRs of 1826 marriage or by her age and birthplace in 1851 census. You look to be on the right track. I hope you've passed on your thought regarding Simons / Lemons to the other submitters at Rootsweb and Ancestry. Peter in Sydney

Hi Liz There are quite a number of DENYER names shown in the 1881 Census. You know that Edgar Charles DENYER - passed away in 1960 in Bedford - An Obituary if published -for Edgar as well as Florence may show the name of other family members - and their locations at the time. At 10:59 AM 16/02/2010, you wrote: >Hi > >I am tracing an elusive family. The Denyer family were located >around Nottingham but the eldest son > >Edgar Charles moved to Bedfordshire sometime after the 1901 census >and maybe even after the 1911 census. He died in 1960 in Bedford. >His wife was Florence Denyer and he had at least one child named >Lydia. I believe that Lydia married Cyril Cox in the 1920 and may >have had a son called David in 1939. There may have been other >Denyer children of Edgar. Any help appreciated with this family. >Hopefully I m not the only family historian out there as there are >no male Denyers carrying this name down generation. > >Liz > >_________________________________________________________________ >Got a cool Hotmail story? Tell us now >http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ > > > >The List Guidelines > >http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > >The Bedfordshire Surnames List > >http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ralph, Are you needing help with research or are you just looking for "cousins"? Looking for cousins puts you chances at very long odds. Luckily, I found this submitted tree at Rootsweb. http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=tharby-morris-03&id=P2613260126 There may be others at Ancestry, Genes Reunited etc If you want research help, all the resources of the kind people on the Bedford list are at your disposal. Just do a brief post of what you know, where you've looked, and what specifically you are after. Peter

Hello Peter, Thank you for the reply. I am looking for the marriage of John Harris and Mary ? the parents of William Harris born April 1, 1804. I need to find out the surname of Williams mother and proof of who his parents are William Harris married Mary Simons not Lemons. When the records for Shillington are studied carefully the S and L letters can mixed up and miss read. Shillington records do not include the marriage of John Harris to Mary. I believe that Mary came from a Parish near by and the marriage took place there. There is a John Harris who married a Mary Matthews in Luton in 1798. However the Church of England records for Luton are not available at LDS centres. I was hoping that maybe someone else has a branch of this family that could help. The children listed as a result of the marriage of William and Mary on Ancestry are correct. Ralph ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] William Harris 1804 > Ralph, > > Are you needing help with research or are you just looking for > "cousins"? > > Looking for cousins puts you chances at very long odds. Luckily, I > found > this submitted tree at Rootsweb. > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=tharby-morris-03&id=P2613260126 > There may be others at Ancestry, Genes Reunited etc > > If you want research help, all the resources of the kind people on the > Bedford list are at your disposal. Just do a brief post of what you know, > where you've looked, and what specifically you are after. > > Peter > > > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There are old London maps on the web. Try http://archivemaps.com/mapco/cross1851/cross1851.htm There is Tavistock Square if you choose the 4th rectangle from the left in the top row & enlarge it. For those who are looking for more modern addresses, bear in mind that roads have been renamed over the years & the properties renumbered to take into account new building & in later times rebuilding after the war. Penny Hampshire UK

Are you a member of a local history society? If so are you aware that the month of May is “Local and Community History Month” as promoted by The Historical Association? The aim of the month is to increase awareness of local history, promote history in general to the local community and encourage all members of the community to participate. Activities happen across the UK and include trips, library exhibitions and local lectures. It is a great way for groups to highlight local history and for local people to get involved. Each year the event goes from strength to strength. More can be found on the web site www.history.org.uk. We shall be participating with outdoor events, displays in the town library, workshops in conjunction with the library to give people with some learning difficulties the opportunity to learn about local and family history methods. We are also investigating opportunities for events we can run in conjunction with local businesses. It would be great if Bedfordshire societies could put on a show of strength this year and help to bring our work to the attention of more members of our communities. I have copied several people in (as Bcc) to this communication who should have the ability to be proactive in promoting this opportunity in Bedfordshire. Thanks for your time. -- Best regards Mike Strange Vice Chairman - Biggleswade History Society www.BiggleswadeHistory.org.uk

Sharon, Here's the NZ BDM site that Marlene mentioned https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Home/ Peter in Sydney

Kia Ora Sharon I cannot tell from your email addy whether you are in NZ or not. Just in case you don't know Historical BMDs are online at the "Department of Internal Affairs" . (google it). If you recognise any of your names take the procedure for ordering right through to "checkout" and you will see the date of the event! You'll have to buy the cert to get the location. ALWAYS ask for a printout not a cert as you will almost always get additional info. Death certs will give you name, occupation, date and how many living children . If you want further help write to me personally. Marlene New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Mathieson" <sharon.mathieson@gmail.com> To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [BDF] James West > Thank you for that. More pieces to the jigsaw always help to get a more > complete picture. I wonder where they went? Frank and Edward I know went > to > New Zealand, but I have no idea of when, or what happened to the rest of > the > family. > > On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> > wrote: > >> Ah, from your first post it sounded like you had no information on James >> WEST as you didn't mention birthplace or year and was unsure when he died >> >> If the marriage you mention is the correct one, the following is the >> family >> in 1851 & 1861 but I can't find them after that >> >> In 1851 >> 39 Upper Park Street Islington >> James WEST 32 Medieval? Decorator born Clerkenwell Middlesex >> Ann M WEST 32 St Lukes MDX >> Margaret A WEST 7 Islington MDX >> Frank WEST 4 Islington MDX >> Helen H PICKFORD wifes sister 17 St Lukes MDX >> Ann PICKERN servant 24 house servant Huntingdon >> >> In 1861 at Prospero? Cottage >> as above less Margaret A plus >> Sarah Elizabet WEST 9 Islington MDX >> Mary Harriet WEST 7 Islington MDX >> Edward WEST 5 Islington MDX >> Benjamin James WEST 3 Islington MDX >> Sarah BYRED? serv 19 Bucks Longwick >> James occupation in 1861 is Writer Printer Illuminator (which would lend >> weight to a Medieval Decorator in 1851 being correct) >> >> Nearest I can find for a baptism is >> >> JAMES WEST >> Christening:1818 Poultry Chapel Camomile Street-Independent, London, >> London, >> England >> Father: RICHARD WEST Family >> Mother: MARTHA >> C097671 1702 - 1753 0825328 (RG4 4207) Film 6904065 Film >> C097671 1781 - 1837 0825328 (RG4 4207) Film 6904065 Film >> >> But apart from that no sign of James WEST artist/writer/illuminator in >> Bedfordshire >> >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> >> >> >> > exactly what I am trying to find out. He was supposedly born in 1818 >> > and >> > his >> > father's name was Richard. He married a Margaret Pickford in 1842 in >> > Middlesex. I would like to know more about Richard and further back, >> > but >> > don't seem to be having any luck. Apparently he was an ironmonger >> >> >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ >> >> The Bedfordshire Surnames List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedf.html> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I am researching William Harris born April 1, 1804 to John and Mary Harris at Shillington. Does anyone have these names in their family history? Thank you, Ralph Harris

Page 1 No of Assessment Names of Occupiers or Persons Rated Description of Premises and Property Rated Annual Value Sums assessed at 6d in the Pound Amount of Arrears of former Rate if any Total Amount to be collected Amount actually collected Date when collected Amount not recoverable, or legally excused 1 James Dynes House & 5/5/5 0/3/7 ½ “ Land 2/0/0 2 John Pinny House & 3/10/0 0/1/9 3 Thos Franklin “ 1/5/0 “ Land 1/10/0 “ House & 1/10/0 0/1/4 ½ 4 House & 1/10/0 5 James Manning “ 1/10/0 0/0/9 6 Joseph Flint House & 4/0/0 0/2/0 7 Hoult “ 11/0/0 0/5/6 8 Joseph Robinson “ 2/10/0 0/1/3 9 Thos Hand “ 2/10/0 0/1/3 10 Francis Dorks “ 2/0/0 0/1/0 11 Cook “ 1/10/0 0/0/9 12 Charles Clark House & Land 9/0/0 “ Land 5/0/0 0/7/0 (total) 54/0/0 1/6/3 Page 2 No of Assessment Names of Occupiers or Persons Rated Description of Premises and Property Rated Annual Value Sums assessed at 6d in the Pound Amount of Arrears of former Rate if any Total Amount to be collected Amount actually collected Date when collected Amount not recoverable, or legally excused 13 Smith House Garden 2/10/0 0/1/3 15 Wm Ekins “ 2/0/0 0/1/0 16 Samuel Pinny “ 2/0/0 “ Shops 3/0/0 0/2/6 17 Leighton House 3/0/0 0/2/6 18 Mrs Flawn “ 4/0/0 0/2/0 19 Mrs Taylor “ 10/0/0 “ Paddock 12/0/0 “ Land 44/4/2 1/17/1 21 House 1/15/0 0/0/10 ½ 22 “ 1/15/0 0/0/10 ½ 23 George Hart “ 1/10/0 0/0/9 24 John Gurney “ 1/10/0 0/0/9 25 William Hobson “ 14/5/0 0/7/1 ½ 26 William Loyley “ 1/10/0 0/0/9 (total) 114/9/2 2/15/8 ½

Page 29 Duloe in Eaton Socon No of Assessment Names of Occupiers or Persons Rated Description of Premises and Property Rated Annual Value Sums assessed at 6d in the Pound Amount of Arrears of former Rate if any Total Amount to be collected Amount actually collected Date when collected Amount not recoverable, or legally excused 245 John Staughton House 1/0/0 0/0/6 246 John Staughton Senr “ 2/0/0 0/1/0 247 John Fisher “ 1/10/0 0/0/9 248 Mrs Giddens Anchor Public House 5/0/0 “ Land 1/10/0 0/3/3 249 Joseph Topham Farm 172/19/10 “ Land 3/10/0 4/8/3 250 Joseph Lynn “ 1/11/6 0/0/9 ½ 251 Mrs Clark House 1/10/0 0/0/9 252 James Stocker “ 1/10/0 0/0/9 Page 30 No of Assessment Names of Occupiers or Persons Rated Description of Premises and Property Rated Annual Value Sums assessed at 6d in the Pound Amount of Arrears of former Rate if any Total Amount to be collected Amount actually collected Date when collected Amount not recoverable, or legally excused 253 John Emery Farm 149/10/3 ½ “ “ 50/4/0 “ Land 9/6/6 “ “ 7/0/0 “ “ 9/10/0 5/12/9 254 John Bozeat House 2/0/0 0/1/0 255 Carter “ 2/0/0 0/1/0 256 Shadrack Brightman Farm 73/1/10 “ “ 4/10/4 1/18/9 ¾ 257 Joseph Topham Farm 125/3/3 “ Land 69/7/0 “ House 11/5/1 “ Farm 47/18/6 6/6/10 Page 32 No of Assessment Names of Occupiers or Persons Rated Description of Premises and Property Rated Annual Value Sums assessed at 6d in the Pound Amount of Arrears of former Rate if any Total Amount to be collected Amount actually collected Date when collected Amount not recoverable, or legally excused 258 Beesley House Public 4/0/0 0/2/0 259 William Jordan Farm 256/10/0 “ “ 23/15/0 “ Orchard 6/0/0 7/3/1 ½ 260 W H W Gery Esqr House 118/5/0 “ Land 6/8/6 3/2/4 ¼ 261 William Dixie House 8/0/0 0/4/0 262 William Draper “ 2/10/0 0/1/3 263 William Grey Land 7/12/0 0/3/9 ¾ 264 Smith “ 2/17/2 0/1/5 265 James Joyce House 5/17/7 0/2/11 ¼ Page 33 No of Assessment Names of Occupiers or Persons Rated Description of Premises and Property Rated Annual Value Sums assessed at 6d in the Pound Amount of Arrears of former Rate if any Total Amount to be collected Amount actually collected Date when collected Amount not recoverable, or legally excused 266 Edward Peck Farm 156/8/5 267 Ewd Peacock “ 46/0/4 268 John Newton “ 47/15/0 269 Spreakley Farm 159/12/0 Bedfordshire to wit We One of her Majesty’s Justices of the Peace for the County of Bedford do consent unto and allow of the foregoing affidavit Dated this day (?) December 1844

thanks Mike On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Mike Strange <mjstrange@btinternet.com>wrote: > Hi Sharon, > > See a picture of Dartmouth Chambers, Theobalds Road here, I just uploaded > it > for you: > www.YourTotalEvent.com/dartmouthchambers.jpg<http://www.yourtotalevent.com/dartmouthchambers.jpg> > > Best regards > Mike > > On 14 Feb 2010 , Sharon Mathieson said: > > That could be possible. I live in Australia and have no idea. He was > supposed to have had a later studio at Dartmouth Chambers, Theobolds Road, > W.C. Do you have any idea where that is? > > On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 6:22 AM, Penny Courtney < > penelope.courtney@mypostoffice.co.uk> wrote: > > > When you say Tavistock Rd, Bedford, I wonder if it should be Tavistock > Rd, > > Bedford Square, London. This was/is part of the estates owned by the > Dukes of > > Bedford & the roads & squares are named after their family names & > titles. > > Lord Tavistock is the heir to the Duke. > > > > That would fit in to the information about him living in London. > > > > Penny Courtney > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Sharon Mathieson" <sharon.mathieson@gmail.com> > > Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 12:17 PM > > To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> > > Subject: Re: [BDF] James West > > > > > exactly what I am trying to find out. He was supposedly born in 1818 > and his > > > father's name was Richard. He married a Margaret Pickford in 1842 in > > > Middlesex. I would like to know more about Richard and further back, > but > > > don't seem to be having any luck. Apparently he was an ironmonger > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Hi Sharon?? > > >> > > >> Trying to join the dots is notoriously fraught with complications and > > >> disappointments > > >> > > >> Can you not make your way back from yourself to this James WEST ? > > >> > > >> The only James WEST I can see who died around 1890 in Bedfordshire is > > one > > >> born 1823 approx and he appears to be an Ag Lab > > >> > > >> Checking the census there are a few James WESTs in Bedfordshire over > the > > >> years but found to be anything like an artist > > >> > > >> No connection found between a James WEST and a Tavistock Road or > Street at > > >> any time > > >> > > >> If you can prove the line and find out where he was born married and > > died > > >> you may have better luck > > >> > > >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > According to family tradition, my great great grandfather was James > > >> > West, > > >> > a > > >> > commercial artist who at one time had a studio in Tavistock Rd in > > >> Bedford. > > >> > I > > >> > think he died about 1890. Does anyone know how I can find out more > > >> > about > > >> > him? > > >> > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

That could be possible. I live in Australia and have no idea. He was supposed to have had a later studio at Dartmouth Chambers, Theobolds Road, W.C. Do you have any idea where that is? On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 6:22 AM, Penny Courtney < penelope.courtney@mypostoffice.co.uk> wrote: > When you say Tavistock Rd, Bedford, I wonder if it should be Tavistock Rd, > Bedford Square, London. This was/is part of the estates owned by the Dukes > of Bedford & the roads & squares are named after their family names & > titles. Lord Tavistock is the heir to the Duke. > > That would fit in to the information about him living in London. > > Penny Courtney > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Sharon Mathieson" <sharon.mathieson@gmail.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 12:17 PM > To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [BDF] James West > > > exactly what I am trying to find out. He was supposedly born in 1818 and > > his > > father's name was Richard. He married a Margaret Pickford in 1842 in > > Middlesex. I would like to know more about Richard and further back, but > > don't seem to be having any luck. Apparently he was an ironmonger > > > > On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Hi Sharon?? > >> > >> Trying to join the dots is notoriously fraught with complications and > >> disappointments > >> > >> Can you not make your way back from yourself to this James WEST ? > >> > >> The only James WEST I can see who died around 1890 in Bedfordshire is > one > >> born 1823 approx and he appears to be an Ag Lab > >> > >> Checking the census there are a few James WESTs in Bedfordshire over the > >> years but found to be anything like an artist > >> > >> No connection found between a James WEST and a Tavistock Road or Street > >> at > >> any time > >> > >> If you can prove the line and find out where he was born married and > died > >> you may have better luck > >> > >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >> > >> > >> > >> > According to family tradition, my great great grandfather was James > >> > West, > >> > a > >> > commercial artist who at one time had a studio in Tavistock Rd in > >> Bedford. > >> > I > >> > think he died about 1890. Does anyone know how I can find out more > >> > about > >> > him? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> The List Guidelines > >> > >> http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > >> > >> The Bedfordshire Surnames List > >> > >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedf.html> > <http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedf.html> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedf.html> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ______________________________________________ > > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > > > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedf.html> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you for that. More pieces to the jigsaw always help to get a more complete picture. I wonder where they went? Frank and Edward I know went to New Zealand, but I have no idea of when, or what happened to the rest of the family. On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> wrote: > Ah, from your first post it sounded like you had no information on James > WEST as you didn't mention birthplace or year and was unsure when he died > > If the marriage you mention is the correct one, the following is the family > in 1851 & 1861 but I can't find them after that > > In 1851 > 39 Upper Park Street Islington > James WEST 32 Medieval? Decorator born Clerkenwell Middlesex > Ann M WEST 32 St Lukes MDX > Margaret A WEST 7 Islington MDX > Frank WEST 4 Islington MDX > Helen H PICKFORD wifes sister 17 St Lukes MDX > Ann PICKERN servant 24 house servant Huntingdon > > In 1861 at Prospero? Cottage > as above less Margaret A plus > Sarah Elizabet WEST 9 Islington MDX > Mary Harriet WEST 7 Islington MDX > Edward WEST 5 Islington MDX > Benjamin James WEST 3 Islington MDX > Sarah BYRED? serv 19 Bucks Longwick > James occupation in 1861 is Writer Printer Illuminator (which would lend > weight to a Medieval Decorator in 1851 being correct) > > Nearest I can find for a baptism is > > JAMES WEST > Christening:1818 Poultry Chapel Camomile Street-Independent, London, > London, > England > Father: RICHARD WEST Family > Mother: MARTHA > C097671 1702 - 1753 0825328 (RG4 4207) Film 6904065 Film > C097671 1781 - 1837 0825328 (RG4 4207) Film 6904065 Film > > But apart from that no sign of James WEST artist/writer/illuminator in > Bedfordshire > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > exactly what I am trying to find out. He was supposedly born in 1818 and > > his > > father's name was Richard. He married a Margaret Pickford in 1842 in > > Middlesex. I would like to know more about Richard and further back, but > > don't seem to be having any luck. Apparently he was an ironmonger > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedf.html> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >